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06-07-2004, 04:24
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Pleasure and pain
Hi,
I have just been reading a few posts about people who have post LOS syndrome, and the main question was - "How do I sort my head out?" Well, unfortunately, I dont think you do. You have to realise that in life there are positives and negatives, like 'Ying and Yang'. You have had the pleasure, now you must have the pain. After sunshine, must come rain, and so on. You have tasted the forbidden fruit, and there is no going back. I have NEVER come across ANYBODY who has been to Thailand and said "Yeah, it was ok, nothing special". Everybody has been blown away by it (literally  )But, what I learnt a long time ago was this - I have lots of friends/acquaintances, and there life is totally mapped out and predictable. Wife, 2 kids, mortgage etc. Work 5 days, then off the weekend. Only have enough money for a drink on friday. There lives will NEVER be any different. I dont knock them. They bring up families and do a good job, but for me, its as if they have never lived a life. On the othere hand, my emotions have been a rollercoaster. You only truly know what highs are, when you have experienced lows. I know for a FACT, that 99% of the people I know can not, or will not take a risk and try something different. I would rather spend one day as a tiger, than 100 years as a sheep. What helps me, is that I KNOW I will return to Thailand again. I have just returned from working away for 3 days. The FIRST thing I did was look at the forum. I look at it every day when I am home. It is great to see friends you know and have met, having a good time out there and posting stories and photos. It fills up the gaps between tours of duty. When I sit back and feel a bit down because I am not in Thailand, I have a little word to myself and say - "Yes mike, but at least you have been lucky enough to go there in the first place" Hope this help. Dirty Mike p.s. This must be a first! I have never mentioned ladyboys
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06-07-2004, 06:31
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Thanks Mike - good post. I am that safe, steady person with two kids, wife, boring job etc that you talk about And yes i have tasted that forbidden fruit and am now suffering the consequences. Probably overdosed on Phuket, Pattaya and Bangkok all in one sitting! although i have only been back from first trip for about 10 days i am desperately thinking how to go about getting out there again a.s.a.p.
My problem of course is how to get round the wife, and explain why i need to go out there two or three times a year. The golf is good, but not that bloody good! I can tell she is still waiting to have that post LOS trip 'what did you really get up to out there' chat/inquisition.When she sees the photos from the trip with girls in loads of pictures, draped all over friends (but curiously not many with me!), this will no doubt spark that conversation. I think that how i handle this chat will have a great bearing on my future trips to paradise. Do i deny all - and quite frankly treat her like she is stupid - which she isnt. Or do i admit i dabbled a bit, see the reaction and then decide how much to admit. Not sure yet, which way to play it. Who knows, she may well indulge my new passion - after all she doesn't mind me going all over the world to play golf with my mates. Perhaps i am deluding myself now though!! However, whatever happens will happen, but one things for sure, to quote you Mike 'is that I KNOW I will return to Thailand again'. - and soon!
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06-07-2004, 11:43
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Hey Chanook
I'm not married but I would do what alot of Japanese guys do and most of the women agree to it. Don't mention the women in LOS just say you are on a golf vacation, some things are better left unexplained many married wife's know what's going on, just don't put it in their face. If it's not broken don't fix it. If your wife suspects it fine, don't confirm it.
Just a single guy in LOS opinion. Cheers!
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06-07-2004, 17:01
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When I think of all the different places I've been the only one that I can't wait to get back to is LOS. There is something compelling about the place that's hard to explain to someone who's never been, it's about more than just the girls.
It's more about living it feels good to be alive, to ride a bike over to Karon on a hot summers morning and to drink fresh coconut milk then go for a swim and maybe some fresh fruit for breakfast. This is what life is about, most people work all their lives so they can retire at 65 to do what, most just sit around till they die. You may as well be dead. LOS is life itself!
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06-07-2004, 18:28
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I agree totally with that!
You have to live! Respect the bg or tg's, have fun with them! I do not get drunk all the time! My cellar in france is the best in the world! But nice girls, sun, beach and s*x, which normal man could not appreciate! And if a girl is good to you, give her somethin extra!
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06-07-2004, 19:21
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LOOKING FOWARD TO CRIMBO PAL.IT WILL BE A BLAST....... JONNY
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07-07-2004, 00:14
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Urtherman says - some things are better left unexplained many married wife's know what's going on, just don't put it in their face.
I think that is the best way to play it. Leave the wife a get out position where she can pretend that she doesn't know and therefore condone it. Nice posts from tin tin and river, perfectly sum up the way i feel about LOS.
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07-07-2004, 02:12
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Great husbands!
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I wonder if your wife read these words. How brilliant you are, and how wonderful your love is with your family! Just a thinking from a woman - feel very sick about some men in this forum cheating on their wives. If you guys are single, it will be ok to find someones. But some of you guys are married. You went to Thailand for a "golf vacation" - as you told your wife, and now you are depressed, and dreaming about new trips. Such poor wives who has husbands like some of you guys here!
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07-07-2004, 02:23
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You Think You Know, But You Don't Know.
I am single, but have been married. When I was married, I never went to LOS or anywhere like it. I had a friend who did and told me his stories. At the time, my marriage was a happy one, but it still sounded ilke a fun thing to do, and I suggested to my wife that we take separate vacations. She would have none of it, and all our vacations were boring trips to visit relatives. Eventually I refused to go with her, stayed at home and worked.
Was she interested in my happiness? No. Did she think that our love was strong enough to withstand my having a little fun with younger women in a far-off land? Apparently not. If love is strong, a fling with a BG won't break it. Love involves so much more than sex, which is just a small part of it. Women are concerned primarily with security, and are threatened by other women, who they think will take their man. OR they are more concerned with what their friends and neighbors might be saying behind their backs. Few women understand men and what makes a man happy. To any woman I say, until you have a set of ***** hanging between your legs, pumping testosterone through your system, you are judging men by the standards of what women feel and think and believe. If you want a woman for a husband, fine, many women are doing that now. But we are men and refuse to be like women. You ought not be so quick to judge. If you were a man, you would understand and might not be so different yourself.
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07-07-2004, 02:39
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Repecting your partner - that's what I think that a love includes. "Was she interested in my happiness?" As I think, wife;s happiness are her happy family with her husband and children, and her husband's happiness is her happiness - that's a family of love. Love must be built by at least two people. If she didn;t love you, or if you didn;t love her much, your love couldn;t be strong. If love is strong, a fling with a BG won;t happen in any situation. Love involves so much more than sex - I do agree with you. So I can't agree with some guys here who share their sex life with someone else beside their wife.
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07-07-2004, 02:54
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Women are concerned with security and are threatened by other women because they can't really trust their men. With some you guys here who went out for "golf vacation", banged some prostitutes, and asked other people how to tell lie, can a woman trust him? Should a woman accept that her husband slept with other women just for sex - and nothing else but sex? So is she a woman, can she act like a woman - or can she have sex? Or is she only a pillow to sleep with every night, a priest for her husband to confess, or just a doll for her husband to shag her every time he couldn;t go out to put his **** in another woman? If he feel bored of his family life - tell his wife and find a new way that both husband and wife could be happy with. I don;t think that having sex with another women is the only way to solve your happiness with your wife.
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07-07-2004, 02:56
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A Martyr For The Cause
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OK. You say, a "husband's happiness is her happiness." That is a woman's point of view. I don't think that you would ever hear that said by a man. IT is as if you deny that the man has any purpose or desires in life except to serve his wife and family. For a man to do so is to be a martyr for a cause, his wife's cause. A man can be a good provider, a good father, and a loving husband, but still want to have a time when the pressure is off, and the business of supporting a household, and the ceaseless daily worries are put aside for a while, and it is time to enjoy, to have pleasure. My father was a faithful husband who worked until he could no more, and did everything for his family, and nothing for himself. When he was old and worn and damaged goods by the time he was 58, he was always aching and in pain and it made him grumpy. Then his wife and children did nothing but complain about him, gave him no peace, did nothing but criticize him, never a kind word or a thank you for devoting his life to them. My mother said the only reason that she didn't divorce him was because she was too old to fstart over, and my sister constantly urged her to tell him she wouldn't put up with his attitude, and that she should divorce him. This is the thanks he got. No matter how much a man gives, the wife wants more and wants him to be more compliant with her view of how things ought to be. To all the men who take the time to take a little pleasure and joy in life for themselves, I commend you.
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07-07-2004, 03:04
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"QUOTE"Oh my Scarlet woman, you've gone with his money!
But there is an end, and a beginning and the beginning and all the future is with you. For you are the mother of the new race, the redeemer and lover of the new men, the men that shall be free. Now I shall speak to you of men. Men desire three things of woman, a mother greater than themselves, a wife less than themselves, and a lover equal with themselves.
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07-07-2004, 03:09
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) You show me that you were a good husband who took care of everything in your house. Sorry Jaybee, in some ways, i would like to say that you ///////////////////////when your acted like that. Men and women, we can both work and earn money. If you wanted to be a god in your family, why do you complain about that now since you were a god? Sharing responsibilities - that's what thai girls are doing now - they ask for money from you to feed her family. And beside that, she has to work for you. If your wife didn';t want to work or share responsibilities with you, that;s her fault and your fault too because you didn;t show her that. Leave her, find someone else to make a new life. That's fine.Sorry Jaybee, I only meant that men who cheat on their wives are wrong. I don;t mean to quarrel you. Cheating on other people are not right at all, especially with the woman who you have lived for many years. Last edited by cadia : 08-07-2004 at 07:32. Reason: Lack of vocabulary -> used wrong words for a good person
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07-07-2004, 03:13
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The bottom line is that men can seperate sex and love.That is why a married man can indulge in pushing his todger into BGs for two weeks every year then returning home to continue his married life.A woman cannot understand this as they do not think the same way as a man.I don't necessarily condone it but its a fact of life.
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07-07-2004, 03:16
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Oh, and sorry about your family story. As we all know that people are greedy. Some women are so greedy that the only thing they care about is themselves. Some men are so greedy that the only thing they care about is themseves too - I think you can find some examples about men. So plz don;t think that all women are like your mother, and all men are like your father.
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07-07-2004, 03:27
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07-07-2004, 06:26
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What about this......
Hi Cadia,
I always try to look at things from both sides of the fence. I do understand and agree with a lot of things you say, however, what about this - A married couple love each other very much. They have a family, and both work hard to build the family home. The children grow up being loved by both parents and most of the time it is a happy home. The man comes home, and loves his wife very much, and wants to make love to her. "Not tonight, Im tired" is the reply. "Ok" says the man. He backs off, feeling a little rejected, but lets it pass. This cycle continues for a long time. Basically the woman doesnt have the urge she used to for sex. She has given birth and feels the everyday things in life are a chore, and the constant sexual demands from her husband make her even unhappier. What is the man to do? He only wants his wife, but she shuns him. THIS HAPPENS IN A LOT OF MARRIAGES. Does the man accept this and only get to feel the pleasure when it is good for his wife? I hear SO MANY TIMES that the man should take her out for dinner, massage her, listen to her, buy her flowers etc. How many times is the advice that is given out - ' If your man comes home and wants to make love to you, then let him'. NEVER. It NEVER happens. Once the women have reproduced, then they feel their job is done. I can understand that, but then don't call a man for carrying on HIS greatest urge. I personally dont think it is right for a man to tell lies so he can go away and have sex with beautiful, young, sexy, adorable, passionate, velvet skinned vixens........... But what is he to do?To tell her will stir up a hornets nest. To restrict himself will drive him crazy. Continents have been won and lost over the furry cup. It is our natural instinct, same as it is yours to have children. Ying and Yang. Same same but different. Left arm right arm. We can not function without women, women cant function without men. The one thing that REALLY puzzles me is this - Why do women want equality? That means they are bringing themselves down a rung or two of the ladder......
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07-07-2004, 13:40
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What, No LBs !!!!!!!?????????
MikeGB, Now you've done it! That was the first post with no mention of LBs, not even in a postscript!
But seriously, Mike, your sharp mind and keen powers of observation of the human condition never cease to amaze me. And your ability to sum things up and put fingertips to computer keyboard...Brilliant! Pleasure and Pain. That is what it is all about. The amount of pain caused by everyday life with it hustle-bustle hurried pace, bills never-ending, and even more so for those with wives, kids, and mortgages to fret about. Unrelenting stress and pressure takes its toll. Stress is pain. With all that stress(pain), there must be pleasure to balance the equation. Wives become business partners in the business of household, generating income, and rearing offspring. It is not always comforable jumping into bed for sex with your business partner, even if you are lucky enough to have one who's up for the "task," as they so often are not. Feras' company sent him off for an all-expenses paid holiday to LOS as a bonus for his exemplary job performance. A smart wife ought to do the same for her husband if he was an exemplary husband, father, and business partner the rest of the year. That is the kind of incentive plan that could turn every man into an ideal husband for the time he is at home. There would be more happy husbands making their wives and children happier, as well. Why, with all that extra happiness spread around, the next thing you know, wars, disease, and poverty would be a thing of the past. GNPs would soar. And all because of generous, indulgent , kind , unjealous wives and their happy, "cheating" husbands. Don't you think so? Sounds like a plan. Let's start a movement! 
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07-07-2004, 14:27
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Treat im mean keep im keen! If they didn't have c*nts you'd throw rocks at them. What about LB's? Who was the idiot that gave them the vote. Life is so much less complicated in LOS; Women: You pay barfine? Man: Yes Women: You want St or LT? Man: LT Women: Me make good boom boom for you. Man:  Less talking and more action would make the world a better place.
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