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22-03-2008, 13:06
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i was watching a program on Buddhism and it reminded me of something that happened a few years ago
my gf and i were at a temple in Chiang Mai and we went and got a blessing from the Monk
then we were to recieve the strings on our wrist but she couldnt recieve her's from the monk, she had to have the "assitant" give it ot her
she explained to me that she couldnt have contact with the monk
i thought it was sort of strange that i, someone that doesnt follow the same religion or not even the same nationality, sort of got treated better than a female that follows the religion and is of the same nationality.
i dont know, i did find it odd but i guess it is sort of like a vow of celibacy that catholic priest take
just seems sort of extreme to me
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22-03-2008, 13:11
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In other respects, I doubt you will be treated better.
As I understand it, there may not be any physical contact between a Monk and a woman.
In this case you were simply treated like a man.
I had the very same experience as you once.
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....just seems sort of extreme to me
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...to be honest with you, to me everything which has to do with religion is Extreme! That's why I try to
avoid it as much as possible.
Having said that, I can somewhat accept to live with Buddhism next to me since it seems far more relaxed
than all the others.
But I guess also here when you dig deeper into it, there are ton's of rules people have made up and others
will have to follow.
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there may not be any physical contact between a Monk and a woman.
In this case you were simply treated like a man.
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....how makes up all that stuff when it comes to not touching a woman in different religions?
What's the principal behind it?
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now, i wasnt really saying anything negative, more questioning it
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22-03-2008, 13:22
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now, i wasnt really saying anything negative, more questioning it
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Yes, and I got drifted away on my 3 coffee's and broke my rule.
Never discuss religions, I'm simply not qualified and don't know too much about it 5555
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Yes, and I got drifted away on my 3 coffee's and broke my rule.
Never discuss religions, I'm simply not qualified and don't know too much about it 5555
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no worries because i think your point was spot on, TBH
but unless they are extreem, i make no judgement about any religions
i was just curious about that monk situation
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....how makes up all that stuff when it comes to not touching a woman in different religions?
What's the principal behind it?
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By "how", do you mean "who".
In every religion there is a higher clerical and rules are set there. I wouldn't pro tent to know why [exactly] this is, but 2 reasons come to mind:
1. Impurity of of a woman, because she menstruate.
2. Avoiding being promiscuous.
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By "how", do you mean "who".
In every religion there is a higher clerical and rules are set there. I wouldn't pro tent to know why [exactly] this is, but 2 reasons come to mind:
1. Impurity of of a woman, because she menstruate.
2. Avoiding being promiscuous.
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But, yes, I guess you are right. What I don't understand is I never had really problems after shaking hands with a woman - I'm sure many had their their period at the time.
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 Does he? (we're on a nice misspelling tour today;-)
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As Victor Borge would have said: "Hey, ... it is not my language, I am just trying to use it."
.... that was a bad typo ..... I'll go correct it.
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As Victor Borge would have said: "Hey, ... it is not my language, I am just trying to use it."
.... that was a bad typo ..... I'll go correct it.
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What typo?;-)
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in bkk in the early morning i watched the security guard from outside a hotel cross the road to help a monk try out the new shoes he wanted to purchase, the girls working the stall could not do it.
no physical contact between a monk and a woman is how i understood the rules.
mind you, follow the local gossip and there is always a naughty monk somewhere breaking that rule, as the mrs says, "some monks are monk to make money"
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my gf and i were at a temple in Chiang Mai and we went and got a blessing from the Monk
then we were to recieve the strings on our wrist but she couldnt recieve her's from the monk, she had to have the "assitant" give it ot her
she explained to me that she couldnt have contact with the monk
i dont know, i did find it odd but i guess it is sort of like a vow of celibacy that catholic priest take
just seems sort of extreme to me
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Buddhist monks are on a spiritual path.
When they're not doing worldly duties, they practice contemplation as a path towards enlightenment.
To move forward in contemplation, practitioners must overcome and dissolve their ego.
Desire is very powerful and fuels the ego. As sexuality is one of the strongest desires, practicing monks make an oath not to touch a female or be involved sexually.
It's not because women are impure, but because sexual temptation in thought as well as deed can be overwhelming and affect the monks meditation practice.
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It's not because women are impure, but because sexual temptation in thought as well as deed can be overwhelming and affect the monks meditation practice.
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Only a negative effect on meditation? That's a relief then 
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I find it a bit strange that in the temple, you see the paintings along the wall with women and having no tops on. (Tits everywhere, so I find it hard that they can't have impure thoughts running thru their heads).
I will dig out the photo's and post them on here.
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....how makes up all that stuff when it comes to not touching a woman in different religions?
What's the principal behind it?
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The dry cleaning bills. 
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I guess that katoeys are not "women" (yet) in the eyes of the mongering monk.
So is it a female thing or a menstruating thing?
However still trouble if you don't pay - monk or monkey.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Critical Mass
Buddhist monks are on a spiritual path.
When they're not doing worldly duties, they practice contemplation as a path towards enlightenment.
To move forward in contemplation, practitioners must overcome and dissolve their ego.
Desire is very powerful and fuels the ego. As sexuality is one of the strongest desires, practicing monks make an oath not to touch a female or be involved sexually.
It's not because women are impure, but because sexual temptation in thought as well as deed can be overwhelming and affect the monks meditation practice.
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wow, good response
thanks
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