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I am looking into a new camcorder, my old one Sony with mini dv tapes is a big hassle to use as it needs so much storage on harddrive and then I have to convert it to a compressed video format.
So I am looking for a Canon HF11 with 32GB internal memory, and memory cards can be used aswell. (Support HDTV too)
Want to make more movies of the kids and also have more video content on the website in the future.
Visited PowerBuy at Central today but they didnt have it, have anyone seen this model anywhere on the island? Or have used it and can recommend it?
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I am looking into a new camcorder, my old one Sony with mini dv tapes is a big hassle to use as it needs so much storage on harddrive and then I have to convert it to a compressed video format.
So I am looking for a Canon HF11 with 32GB internal memory, and memory cards can be used aswell. (Support HDTV too)
Want to make more movies of the kids and also have more video content on the website in the future.
Visited PowerBuy at Central today but they didnt have it, have anyone seen this model anywhere on the island? Or have used it and can recommend it?
Hey Nicke,
B&H has the HF 11 for 669.95 and they are a great retailer used them many times not sure how soon you want one but I will be over at the end of Aug.
Don't forget, some of the newer camcorders that record on memory cards (AVCHD) aren't necessarily compatible with some of the older computers and software. The cameras are light years ahead of the computers. On the other hand, maybe getting the right software isn't such a problem in Thailand, with all the pirate software available.
Have you checked out this new Flip Video Camera? This point and shoot mini camcorder shoots 60 minutes of video in HD for under $200. You can by 3 of these instead of the above. Here is the review:
Don't forget, some of the newer camcorders that record on memory cards (AVCHD) aren't necessarily compatible with some of the older computers and software. The cameras are light years ahead of the computers. On the other hand, maybe getting the right software isn't such a problem in Thailand, with all the pirate software available.
I dont get what you mean ??
Of course a new memory card needs a new card reader.. But those are dime a dozen and I would think thats kind of obvious, if I dont have a SDHC reader I need one to read SDHC cards.
The only formats I can think of would be non standardized formats liek camera RAW where the camera needs support as the format is not rigid.
Have you checked out this new Flip Video Camera? This point and shoot mini camcorder shoots 60 minutes of video in HD for under $200. You can by 3 of these instead of the above. Here is the review:
I was hinking of one of these.. Bee really wants a video recorder and I have very little interest so it des it cheaply AND gives me a cheap solution I could wire onto my bike for some road trip bike recording in the twisties.
Of course a new memory card needs a new card reader.. But those are dime a dozen and I would think thats kind of obvious, if I dont have a SDHC reader I need one to read SDHC cards.
The only formats I can think of would be non standardized formats liek camera RAW where the camera needs support as the format is not rigid.
I guess the AVCHD format isn't necessarily recognized by all the existing computers and software. Or, at least that's what my little brother told me. He recently bought his daughter a new Canon camcorder that records on flash memory. However, he tells me there was some problem getting the computers to recognize the movie clips. They're still playing around with it, but were able to solve the problem, in part, by using some version of Roxio to do a conversion of the files. I'm not sure what that does to the High Definition aspect of it all, though. Also, some of the files can be huge, so you'll end up needing a large external hard drive if you do a significant amount of shooting.
There must be something different between US and Europe/SEA model, the price different is huge. In the past NTSC was a reason not to buy US models, but now when it is digital it cant be any big difference apart from 110v for the battery charger? (Maybe video output is NTSC instead of PAL if you play directly from the camera, but today's TVs play both fine)
AVCHD is standard for all camcorders for high definition and supported by most video editing software aswell.
There must be something different between US and Europe/SEA model, the price different is huge. In the past NTSC was a reason not to buy US models, but now when it is digital it cant be any big difference apart from 110v for the battery charger? (Maybe video output is NTSC instead of PAL if you play directly from the camera, but today's TVs play both fine)
AVCHD is standard for all camcorders for high definition and supported by most video editing software aswell.
I just looked on Amazon and can get the HF11 for $699. I'd be suspicious of anything substantially cheaper than that. Anyway, why not just compare the specs with whatever model they sell in Europe?
HF11 is last year's model and may be the reason why price is so low in US, as the new models entered the market.
Also found out that standard (Non HD) cameras is a lot cheaper, e.g. 12-20,000 baht range. Resolution is still higher than DVD and older cameras, e.g. 1152x864 and 1152x648 (Widescreen). So the question is if its worth to pay double price for full HD? Will read reviews for this category to learn more about them.
One suggestion about the full HD. The Vimeo website has an HD channel with different videos posted in HD. You can search by camera model and see videos taken with different camcorders. I'm not sure how much difference you can tell from the web, though. Mainly, I think the difference would be noticeable if you were to watch the movies on a bigger screen, as a 40" or above.
I am doing my visa run to KL, as I couldnt find any models I wanted in Phuket I bought it here today instead. I bought a Canon HF S100, same as S10 but without internal memory, only memory cards. Also bought a 32Gb memory card. List price is 4999 rm, got it down to 4699 rm, good deal, almost 10k baht more in Thailand.
S10/S100 has got very good reviews too.
Thanks to Nautilus for checking out shops that had it in stock before I arrived.
There must be something different between US and Europe/SEA model, the price different is huge. In the past NTSC was a reason not to buy US models, but now when it is digital it cant be any big difference apart from 110v for the battery charger? (Maybe video output is NTSC instead of PAL if you play directly from the camera, but today's TVs play both fine)
AVCHD is standard for all camcorders for high definition and supported by most video editing software aswell.
I have done a bit of research you need to buy a PAL camera and be carefull of the workflow stuff.
AVCHD might be getting better but I didn't go with it was warned it's a bit troublesome, with what I was doing but it might work for you.
You need a PAL system camera
I just read you bought the camera.....never mind enjoy
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Most camera's sold outside the US are PAL. The NTSC standard was only really used in Japan and the US and with digital TV NTSC is dying a slow but well deserved death.
PAL and NTSC are analogue encoding systems anyway, Digital camera's use different encoding.
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I am doing my visa run to KL, as I couldnt find any models I wanted in Phuket I bought it here today instead. I bought a Canon HF S100, same as S10 but without internal memory, only memory cards. Also bought a 32Gb memory card. List price is 4999 rm, got it down to 4699 rm, good deal, almost 10k baht more in Thailand.
S10/S100 has got very good reviews too.
Thanks to Nautilus for checking out shops that had it in stock before I arrived.
just saw you in the bar playing with it! 5555
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Yes, I played on the beach during the afternoon and in the bar in the night time. Daytime video is excellent, night time can be a bit dark, still OK but not good. With the internal light turned on it was better. So I guess I want to buy VL-5 video light accessory next for night life movies.
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