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10-02-2005, 00:06
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How to help somebody who REALLY lost everything!?
As you know I will be in Thailand in March! 3 weeks!
Now I did not give to any charity, because many people did and you don't know who is getting it! I would like to help personally some people, and not talking about bg's, who lost all their possesions! But I don't want to get ripped off! How would be the best way to help some family, who do not have the meaning to rebuild? 
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10-02-2005, 01:32
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THAT COULD BE A PLACE TO START............ IJ
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10-02-2005, 01:54
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You could try asking around the hospital for someone who could benefit from a procedure that they can't afford, something that might help speed recovery or starighten a limb that might otherwise be left unuseable. Or ask the children's ward if you can sponsor some treatments or just buy toys.
Just some thoughts. K.
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10-02-2005, 15:47
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I posted an article about volontor work in Khao Lak, they do help people with everything and if I donate money I would donate to them.
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10-02-2005, 20:41
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Hi all, I plan on coming over early next month, March, and I am willing to go and help in Khao Lak, about one week or so, but it is just that I hear a lot of contradictory things. I do not want to be scammed or taken for a farang sucker.
I will be bringing some clothes that people here in Oz have given me. The airlines are not charging excess luggage for Tsunami relief items. I sent emails and called Nicke, sorry if I was a bother, to find out how people were there, to try and find out how I could help. I registered as a volunteer in Oz to come to help with the NGO’s but no reply so I am taking my holidays and plan on coming over to help physically, and also to help by spending my money and some time in Patong MTB etc. There are many threads about hotel prices being jacked up, and also is there any where to stay near Khao Lak, as I have heard from a Thai friend that they are still in a bad way up there. Can any one confirm this please? For average accommodation what would I expect to pay please? I know there is so many threads about this subject but I do not know all of the names and places of the hotels like you good folk who have been there so many times do. This will only be my second trip to Phuket. I plan on dropping in to say hell to Nicke and I hope to be able to get current and hopefully accurate information on things. Thanks in advance, Steveski.
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10-02-2005, 22:08
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At the moment the idiot governement are threatening to arrest and charge all volonteer workers who dont have a work permit !!! Unless you are working for a registered charity you will have a very hard time getting one..
Kinda makes you wonder !!!!
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10-02-2005, 22:52
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Well, I wouldn't be surprised if there haven't been a number of poorly organized, ill-prepared do-gooders with the best intentions causing more problems than they solve - people turning up without training, vaccinations etc. If they applied through a creditable aid agency their skills should (not guaranteed though) be better targetted and their health and safety looked after. Of course the aid agencies are not perfect but there is some semblence of control and responsibility in their activities.
Just a thought, K.
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10-02-2005, 22:55
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cannot believe it.... sometimes its really "amazing thailand" 
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10-02-2005, 23:35
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I think this is the post you are looking for http://www.phuket-info.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5552
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11-02-2005, 00:50
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,if no work permit (even if you are a volunteer and not paid)you are liable up to 3 years in the slammer and/or 30-000bht fine(taken from thai visa.com) its understandable to me as a volunteer worker takes work away from a local who needs the money no dought
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11-02-2005, 01:20
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Sounds like there is plenty of work still to do in Khao Lak so there should be no issue with an (unpaid)volunteer worker taking work from a local Thai. What a strange stance by the Thai authorities to take when people are offering their skills and labour for free
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11-02-2005, 02:49
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as from march 1st (unpaid)volunteer worker must have work permit.
was in paper the other day. seems strange but thats what is required !
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11-02-2005, 03:29
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Tuesday, February 8, 2005
Tsunami volunteers warned: get work permits PHUKET: Foreign volunteers assisting in tsunami-related charity work are required to hold work permits, regardless of whether they are being paid for their efforts or not. Sayan Chuaiyjan, head of the Phuket Provincial Employment Service Office [ESO], told the Gazette yesterday that there could be no exceptions and that his office would begin to enforce the regulations soon – possibly in March. “There can be no exceptions. Work is work, even if it is for charity,” he said. He urged relief workers to apply for work permits, adding that those working for recognized charitable organizations would find them easy to obtain. “They can just present a document certified by the charity organization they work for and we will issue them with work permits; then they will be able to work legally,” he said. He pointed out that any foreigner caught working without a work permit is liable to hefty punishment. “If our officers, police officers or immigration police learn [of foreign volunteers] who don’t have work permits, the maximum penalty is three years in jail, a 30,000 baht fine [or both],” he warned. “We did not enforce this law too rigidly [in the immediate aftermath of the tsunami], because we knew that everyone wanted to help out. “But now that the situation is returning to normal, we will have to start taking it more seriously,” he said, adding that a crackdown could begin as early as next month. Phuket Vice-Governor Winai Buapradit, who is charged with overseeing work permit procedures in the province, agreed with the ESO stance and said that the law needed to be enforced both in Phuket and throughout Thailand. “Now that the post-tsunami relief operations are slowing down, they should have work permits to continue working. Otherwise, government officials will have no idea what they are actually doing here – and this could result in trouble in the future,” he said this morning.
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11-02-2005, 03:34
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It is crazy, the volonteer workers also pay 100 baht/day to their organization and help Thailand to rebuild so I think it is bad of Thai government to crack down on this and require a work permit.
Thailand is crazy sometimes.
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11-02-2005, 03:51
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11-02-2005, 04:04
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Hi Steveski,
The article I refer too can be found at http://www.phuket-info.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5552 I am sorry if I missed your emails but I got a lot of spam and emails everyday so it is easy to miss real emails. I get 100's of SPAM emails everyday and real emails easy get lost in those. Quote:
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11-02-2005, 08:19
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I wonder if they are going to 'crack down' on the celebs arriving on the Island (Linkin Park frontman, Tennis bird, Ricky Martin, etc) they all arrive 'working' for charities and get met by Gov officials and fawned over..
Stupid beurocracy is about all you can say on this issue..
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11-02-2005, 15:00
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Thanks for the info
Howdy all,
Thanks for the info, dawsey; thanks for the post, I had totally forgotten about the work permit bit. I must have been think like the farang that I am and thought who in their right mind would enforce a law like this in these circumstances, that would be the Thai government. Bureaucracy messing up the small people again. Tyfon: point taken and I do not class myself as one of those (of course no offence taken) I have extensive experience that I believe would be able to be used in numerous jobs IMHO. I did register with the agencies but they are more interested in people from 6 weeks to 6 months. I would have to quit my job to do that. Currently this is not an option. I could not talk my boss into extra time off without pay. Nicke’s link also says that it is better for at least 4 weeks. I am unable to give 4 full weeks of my time, if I could I would but really can only offer 1 to 2 weeks. I have bills etc also LivinLOS; thanks also. Nicke: not to worry about the Emails, we talked for a while one night when I called, you do not know me that well yet. We can discuss it over a beer or thirty when I am there next month. Maybe I will just help by being a bm and be a bit of a bf (that is bar fly), and the other bf and spend my money in Phuket. Maybe I can bump into some of you guys who regularly post in here, for a beer. I do think you are bustards though, for the following reasons, 1. My neighbours must think I am crazy as there is no television on and I am bursting out laughing in the middle of the night when reading the posts. 2. I am not getting enough sleep as I read the posts until way to late. But the best thing is how much I am learning from you guys who pass on your experience and thoughts on things. Keep it up, or keep doing it, or just keep adding to posts. Thanks again. Steveski
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