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27-05-2005, 06:11
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my old gf goes to italy
alot of you guys have met my old gf in patong. today she went to italy on a visa because i could not give her 100%. it was kinda i weird feeling, ill be honest. ive know her for almost 1 1/2 years and she is truly a great kid who deserves the world. over the last 2 weeks she has been messaging and phoning me while the guy was with her in patong but i tried, for her best, to keep my distance. our last conversation was nice, i just made sure she was ready, made sure she told him she was keeping her return ticket, passport and money for a taxi to airport just in case soemtyhing happens. i truly hope everything works out for her because it is the best thing for her because i am still a proud memebr of the bastards 101 club
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27-05-2005, 08:18
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alot of you guys have met my old gf in patong. today she went to italy on a visa because i could not give her 100%. it was kinda i weird feeling, ill be honest. ive know her for almost 1 1/2 years and she is truly a great kid who deserves the world. over the last 2 weeks she has been messaging and phoning me while the guy was with her in patong but i tried, for her best, to keep my distance. our last conversation was nice, i just made sure she was ready, made sure she told him she was keeping her return ticket, passport and money for a taxi to airport just in case soemtyhing happens. i truly hope everything works out for her because it is the best thing for her because i am still a proud memebr of the bastards 101 club
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Sorry to hear it, Paul. Ao is really a great lady. One of the nicest gals I've ever met in LOS, and a looker, as well. I'm sure that you will miss her. Being a bastard has its' price.
For her, I hope she finds what she is looking for. I really can't blame her for taking the chance. You only get so many shots at the brass ring. They know they've got an expiration date, and even though hers is many years off, no point in waiting until the last minute!
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27-05-2005, 12:50
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Yes have to say that she is one of the nicest girls I have met in patong
I know for sure because she told me that she love's u mate just a pity you cant give her the same in return
I hope everything works out for her because she is one of the few girls I have met who are genuine
I reckon you will see her back in patong sometime soon
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27-05-2005, 12:57
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Thats a shame She was really nice  ,your attiude towards the situation is great.
never know what might happen
reckon she will be back. 
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27-05-2005, 21:33
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im not sad about the situation. its kinda funny, i almost feel like a worried father who's daughter went off to college. it was quite funny, if you think about it. shes in the airport about to hop on a plane to some guys country and shes calling me and im making sure she understands everything and has safety nets and everything. to be honest, i hope i never see her back in patong because that will mean that things have worked out for her, but, unfortunately, i think she is one of those thai girls that are not gonna be able to leave thailand for long, loves it too much
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27-05-2005, 23:39
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mark, I wish her the best too, but as you say, she will probably be back sooner or later. Its hard to leave the party-zone.
My x-girlfriends sister (thai) is married to an Italian man and live with him in Roma. At least when I was liveing with my x-girlfriend about 2,5 years ago, her sister was unhappy. She told me it was hard to fit in in Italy as most of the Italian people looked down on her. I hope ypur x-girlfriend is more lucky with her boyfriend and manage to get a good life.
Take care mate.
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28-05-2005, 11:16
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I knew quite a few Thais in Europe (my sis in law is over there now) and its not easy for them.. thier whole culture of close family and friends and sanuk, niether of which are in high supply back in the west.. Add in cold weather.. unfamiliar foods.. sometimes bad local attitdes etc and it becomes (can do) purely about money..
When Kim first started living in Holland with me I hooked up with the local Thai community to help her integrate.. After a few get togethers and visits she stopped as she was saying that some of the girls there were on the game without BF knowledge and encouraged her to do the same.. Only talked about "I have this, I have that, etc" luckily for me I was living a fairly busy and exciting lifestyle that allowed her to accompany me around on biz and jetting about Europe made for fun, also all my mates GF's really took to her well and spoke English (Kim was fluent in English and good in German) so she had her own girls nights out and social scene quickly..
Sad point is my sis in law, who lives with a nice hard working well off guy, has taken her son over there, had another baby, married and living there indefinately.. Called up recently and was on skype phone for a couple of hours.. very sad depressed, tears etc.. Has the lifestyle and is able to take care of family, genuinely loves her guy, but is lonely has no friends etc.. I get on REALLY well with the girl and she is and will be my sister despite no more Kim.. Its hard to hear someone you love feeling so low and crying etc, also its basically the lifestyle and isnt going to change.. Shitty feeling !!!
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28-05-2005, 13:15
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I also wish her all the best, she seemed to be a very nice and good girl to me.
She actually come to MTB last week and bought a round for MTB staff and told everybody about going to Italy, and we wished her Good Luck.
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31-05-2005, 02:59
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yeah, she loved you guys at MTB, nicke. i remember she use to get so excited when you started to know who she was and say hi to her. id be home and talk to her on the phone, shed tell me you said hello to her. she lived across from noi and kwan so she knew them well.
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31-05-2005, 03:43
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Well, I hope you did not make a mistake by not keeping her, I think she was really nice and clever girl with qualities. I know you dont want to be comitted but she looked like a really good girl to me.
However, I really hope everything will work out good for her, she deserve it.
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31-05-2005, 04:58
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Hi Paul,
Hope you are well, long time no speak.
Yes, she was a very nice girl - lots of them are. I just hope that in the future you dont ever torture yourself over 'what might have been'.
The decision you made at the time, not to be with her, must have been the one you felt was right at the time.
Dont look back , only forwards.
Take care amigo 
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31-05-2005, 21:02
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one thing i do is never look back. my gf of 9 years is getting married next month, and she is the love of my life. i will never find anyone that i click with like her, but i was and am not ready to settle down, it just doesnt appeal to me right now. it has nothing to do with bangiong tons of girls, which i love to do, but just having my freedom to do and go anywhere i want. i dont think i will look back and regret things, there is always other fish in the sea. and when you have thoughts and an attitude like me towards relationships you have to think of the other person and do whats best for them. i couldve easily said things to my old gf and she wouldve stayed in thailand but i thought the best thing was for her to go to italy so i encouraged it
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Smart move Paul...
Well I try to always think before I write too much...I caught this thread when you first posted it and waited until some followup, I think your a smart person to realize where you are and what you want.
I thought about how to relate to what was going on and came up with a thought that I could make a connection to.
I have been in the situation where I could influence the descision of a gf...I foolishy thought of only myself and stopped her from leaving....the fallout was not what I was prepared for.....resentment came later on from her, it wasn't that she wasn't happy being with me as much as it was her own mind thinking "what could have been" I kept her from doing what she wanted to do for my own selfish reasons.
I have to tell you, letting someone go is a great statement about who you are, because of what I have been through I no longer stand in the way of anyone, if a gf wants to go somewhere I tell her to have a good time, I don't care how I feel about it as I know my first reaction is usually to be selfish...letting go of my selfish nature is what has brought me to a point in my life that allows me to enjoy myself.
Right decsions are a myth, it is only foresight that gives you 20/20 vision...who really knows what is the "right" move to make as only the outcome can judge how you did.
I think as I grow older I hold on less and less and enjoy more and more, the budhist teachings are a part of all of that I suppose so maybe some of what I have learned has sunk in over time.
All things in life work out, no matter what comes your way....no matter how many right or wrong descions you make, it all works out in the end....you make the best guess you can and move on, what happens next is never behind you.
Glad to hear your living your life the way that you want...you are among the few and not the many.
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not to bore you guys, just thought id give you guys an update. i got a call at 530am from my old gf from italy. im an afraid she will probably be back in phuket in the not too distant future. shes miserable over there. her 1st complaint, no thai food, 2nd, "they no speak english" poor girl, she pretty much mastered english in a year and she goes off to a country where they do not speak it much. i was actually on the phone persuading her to stick it out and give it a chance
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not to bore you guys, just thought id give you guys an update. i got a call at 530am from my old gf from italy. im an afraid she will probably be back in phuket in the not too distant future. shes miserable over there. her 1st complaint, no thai food, 2nd, "they no speak english" poor girl, she pretty much mastered english in a year and she goes off to a country where they do not speak it much. i was actually on the phone persuading her to stick it out and give it a chance
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Very rarely does a bg ever like it in other countries, exciting at first but when the reality of it kicks in they find it's probably not what they expected.
Far easier on them if there is a strong thai commnumity nearby, like many of which are in the states. Other than this when it comes to farang wanting thai girls for keeps, I have always felt it's better if farang can move to thailand and I've still not changed my mind on that.
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well, i know if i had a tg coming to the states, i would do so much research and find out where i could go to get the neccesities that she'd need to make her feel comfortable. believe it or not, nyc doesnt seem to have a big thai community but im sure if i searched hard enough,especially with the internet, i could find thai stores
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When l took a Thai girl to HK at Xmas she said that eating non-thai food would be "no ploblem"....we ate thai food every day after the first day, as could not stand looking at her sad "non thai food" face anymore.
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when i talked to her on the phone, she had alist, with actually, no1...no2, and it wasnt she missed her bay, mama, no1 was no thai food
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03-06-2005, 09:06
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well, i know if i had a tg coming to the states, i would do so much research and find out where i could go to get the neccesities that she'd need to make her feel comfortable. believe it or not, nyc doesnt seem to have a big thai community but im sure if i searched hard enough,especially with the internet, i could find thai stores
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You could move to SF or LA.  They have huge Thai communties.
I am sorry to hear that it is rough going for Ao. But I have to think that maybe the fact that she really doesn't want to be with him and misses you, has something to do with it.
If she could learn English in a year, then she could probably learn Italian much faster, as it is a much easier language than English. I think that she is just going thru a rough patch now, trying to weigh all the logical reasons and needs of her family against the pull she feels in her heart which is not for Italy or the Italian, but for LOS and for you.
If she sticks it out, I think she will make it, if she can build a strong enough relationship with the man. But if she can never really love him enough,then she will never really be happy, and there will always be a little sadness in her heart, beneath the smile that all TGs know how to put on with their makeup.
When you give her good advice, and think of her interests, and not your own selfish desires, you show what kind of a person you are. Nobody's perfect, we all have our strengths and weaknesses. But when all is said and done, the thing I like about you, is that you are a straight shooter. A lot of shit is said about Americans by people who don't understand us. But in our society, as men, we judge each other as to who we look up to, and who we are proud to call our friend, by that one measure more than any other. You pass that test with flying colors!
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thanks jaybee. like ive said i am a proud member of the bastards 101 club, but i have a heart. once someone enters my life, and has an extended effect on it, either platonic or romatically, they are a freind, and i try to look out whats best for them.
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A lot of shit is said about Americans by people who don't understand us. But in our society, as men, we judge each other as to who we look up to, and who we are proud to call our friend, by that one measure more than any other. You pass that test with flying colors!
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that is actually funny.
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thanks jaybee. like ive said i am a proud member of the bastards 101 club, but i have a heart. once someone enters my life, and has an extended effect on it, either platonic or romatically, they are a freind, and i try to look out whats best for them.
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I know. And I probably should have heeded your advice about you-know-who. But when it comes to matters of the heart(and d*ck), I all too often make the wrong decisions. But just the same, I know why I made the choices I did, and, even if they weren't the best choices, I'm OK with that. But while others were hammering me for making bad decisions, you always respected the fact that good or bad, it was my call.  You never second-guessed me, or said, "I told you so." Thanks, again!
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