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marc26 · #1 08-06-2005, 23:36

as some of you know, my old gf got a visa to italy. the other night, yes, poor italy guy, she is calling me from there, anyways, she said that when she is in for A month she is then allowed to travel throughout europe. is this true? i didnt think it would be?

void · #2 08-06-2005, 23:44

Yes, she can visit many countries in Europe (but not all).

A person who has a visa to visit a European country that is a member of the group of "Schengen" states, in effect has a "Schengen Visa".

Holders of valid Schengen visas (text on the visa reads "valid for Schengen states" in the respective language of the issuing country) or a residence permit of a member state can stay in the entire Schengen area for up to three months per half year (usually without having to go through passport control at internal borders).

Germany, Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Greece, Iceland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Spain and Sweden have acceded to the Schengen Agreement and are thus Schengen states.

Note that Britain and Ireland are not a Schengen state member. In addition, Schengen states are all the "old" EU member states (with the exception of Britain and Ireland (and Norway and Iceland)). The countries that joined the European Union on 1 May 2004 did not immediately accede to the Schengen Agreement.

hugos · #3 08-06-2005, 23:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by marc26

as some of you know, my old gf got a visa to italy. the other night, yes, poor italy guy, she is calling me from there, anyways, she said that when she is in for A month she is then allowed to travel throughout europe. is this true? i didnt think it would be?

If she got a visa for italy then she has a "schengen visa" which allows her to enter all the other "schengen"countries.

more infos see here: http://www.eurovisa.info/SchengenVisa.htm

Hugo

LivinLOS · #4 09-06-2005, 08:20

Did it all the time.. UK is a no no without a visa but much of the rest of mainland Europe is OK.. The fact is Europes borders are so porus and unprotected now it became dumb to do anything else..

marc26 · #5 10-06-2005, 00:36

thats great for the girls. i may be in canada next month for a couple months. when she found out that she can go to other countries with her visa, she proudly pronounced that she was gonna take holiday in canada. i had to give her the bad news that canada wasnt in europe

marc26 · #6 10-06-2005, 00:37

i guess with the ample train travel in europe it would be hard to keep people out of bordering states. how are the custom checks in country to country travel on trains

tintin · #7 10-06-2005, 01:21

Last time there were none at all, because it is free-zone.

But it is possible there are search for illegals sometimes, but I never witnessed them!

richie007 · #8 10-06-2005, 16:21

well i suppose muslim terroristswould be all for it

geespot · #9 11-06-2005, 16:06

Except for fortress UK my GF Ben got a million questions coming in, its just as well I was there to answer most of them, although they were pretty ok about everything

Only exception is an asylum seeker, your welcomed with open arms and they even pay u for being in the UK. How fcuked up is that!!!!

G

sishow · #10 11-06-2005, 17:56

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Originally Posted by geespot

Only exception is an asylum seeker, your welcomed with open arms and they even pay u for being in the UK. How fcuked up is that!!!!

G

The main problem is not the fact that they are 'given' everything they want! The fact is that they can not work legally (Due to both Eu and British laws), so they have to be given state benefits until they case is proven or disproven.

In my view, imagration is a good thing (With some exceptions!) for the Uk, as in twenty years time there wont be enough people working to pay for my or anyone's pension, let alone public services!

I would much rather have people comming in to the country and pay tax and national insurence. Than have 2 or 3 million 'British' people claiming benefits the whole of their lifes, without working a day!

Sorry all about this totally political post!

marc26 · #11 14-06-2005, 08:14

now once the girl has the visa, is she allowed to travel alone to other countries or does she need to be with the man that she is visitng

LivinLOS · #12 14-06-2005, 15:55

Yes once she has that Schengen visa in her passport its 'her' right to travel...

mars · #13 15-06-2005, 00:36

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Originally Posted by marc26

i guess with the ample train travel in europe it would be hard to keep people out of bordering states. how are the custom checks in country to country travel on trains

Iv'e travelled through europe a few times on trains and had a passport check on quite a few occasions.

The police get on one border town and travel to the next.

r3aps · #14 15-06-2005, 02:38

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Originally Posted by mars

Iv'e travelled through europe a few times on trains and had a passport check on quite a few occasions.

The police get on one border town and travel to the next.

maybe some one can answer this visa querstion for me,as a few of you no the tg i stay with lt has a visa to come visit me for 6 months on a tourist visa.i am in england,can she visit say france on this visa or does she have to stay in england?what about scotland or wales?
also i have been told even tho she has a 6 month multi entry visa,once she leaves england she will not be allowed back in on the same visa if she has been in england for longer than she put on application(which was 5 weeks) even tho she has a 6 month visa?
anyone no if this is bs or true?
thxs
steve

marc26 · #15 15-06-2005, 03:02

wow, a six month tourst visa, thats hard to get isnt it?

Sirgezza · #16 15-06-2005, 04:34

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Originally Posted by r3aps

maybe some one can answer this visa querstion for me,as a few of you no the tg i stay with lt has a visa to come visit me for 6 months on a tourist visa.i am in england,can she visit say france on this visa or does she have to stay in england?what about scotland or wales?

....
steve

It's impossible to get in to Wales without a local sponsor. For a fee of £1,000 I would be willing to be that sponsor.

If you try and get in without paying the sponsor, the guards

on the turrets (at the border control) will shoot you on site. You might not have heard, but there are currently 10,000 illegal immigrants from England held on Bardsey Island - similar to Guantanemo Bay. All these people are applying for political asylum - but I reckon they'll be machine gunned.

JayBee · #17 15-06-2005, 08:48

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Originally Posted by gez

It's impossible to get in to Wales without a local sponsor. For a fee of £1,000 I would be willing to be that sponsor.

If you try and get in without paying the sponsor, the guards

on the turrets (at the border control) will shoot you on site. You might not have heard, but there are currently 10,000 illegal immigrants from England held on Bardsey Island - similar to Guantanemo Bay. All these people are applying for political asylum - but I reckon they'll be machine gunned.

Sounds like everyone wants to move to Wales? Is it the LOS of the Northern hemisphere.?

What have they got there(besides Ricard Burton's grave)? Bar sheep?

r3aps · #18 15-06-2005, 11:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayBee

Sounds like everyone wants to move to Wales? Is it the LOS of the Northern hemisphere.?

What have they got there(besides Ricard Burton's grave)? Bar sheep?

to be honest i dont give a hoot about wales,if i had my way i would get a giant saw and cut it out,stick a giant engine on it and send it out to sea before nucking it,but thats my own opinion.and as for shooting them,i cannot believe they would do anything like that over here.also no i have never heard of that island,plus if they are illegals they are probably getting treated brilliantly,its only people that try to get in legitamately into the uk that are treated like 2nd class citizens.and marc the visa i was told would be very hard to get,i supplied a lot of paperwork and dint even need an interview.it took 6 weeks to get but how i got it only they no.no questions for me or tukta just a straight yes.some people have said to me that as i was there when the tsunami happened and had to visit the british embassy to get new passport as mine was lost during it,that they took a sympathetic look at the application and gave it.i did mention i was there with her during the tsunami.but lots of other people i have been in contact with on the thai visa forums who gave me advice said a hell of a lot of people who applied for visas and mentioned they where there during the tsunami seemed to have got them.
i dont no.i am just happy we got it.
steve

void · #19 15-06-2005, 12:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by r3aps

maybe some one can answer this visa querstion for me,as a few of you no the tg i stay with lt has a visa to come visit me for 6 months on a tourist visa.i am in england,can she visit say france on this visa or does she have to stay in england?what about scotland or wales?

If her Visa is for England, she cannot visit France on that Visa. England, for a variety of reasons, decided not to be a "Shengen" state.

I had thought Visa's for England were granted such that she can also visit Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland. I asked my Thai wife, and she stated 15 years ago, when she visited England, she need an additional Visa to go to Scotland (which she stated was easy to get).

We have a TG friend living and working in Ireland (now married) who used to travel from Ireland to England every second weekend on her Irish work Visa. So there are Visas, and there are Visas, and not all are equal, and I suspect a lot depends on the type of English Visa.

Still, from what I have read, it is a lot easier to get a Shengen visa than it is to get an "English" visa. So I think it is possible she could visit mainland Europe, after going through a relatively small amount of administrative work.

Coolhand · #20 15-06-2005, 12:43

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Originally Posted by dizbusta

Scotland. I know we built a big wall to stop them coming to England a long time ago (about 2,000 years !!)

Built by the Italians!

Schmeen · #21 15-06-2005, 13:47

a UK visa would not cover her to go to France and as listed above if she doesn't have a multiple entry visa, she wouldn't be allowed back into the UK if she did get a visa for France.

The process to get a visa for France in the UK, will be difficult as well, unless she is married to you.

Referring to the lass in Italy, of course a Schengen Visa does not cover Switzerland on Italy's Northern border, which for some reason always seems to be a favourite of Thai Girls. My wife has been nagging me to take her to Switzerland for years.

geespot · #22 15-06-2005, 14:35

R3APS

Does your GF have a piece of paper stapled to her passport, detailing the maximum time she can stay for one entry? If she has, lets say its 4 weeks, then she can stay for 4 weeks at a time on a multiple entry visa on as many entries as she can me in the 6 month period

If no paper is attached then she can stay for upto 6 months or for shorter period as she pleases and as many entries as she pleases during the 6 month period

cheers G

geespot · #23 15-06-2005, 14:39

On a slightly different note

Anybody been to the embassy area in Bangkok. Its quite a sight to see outside the British Embassy, literally ques about 300 yards long waiting to make visa applications (you have to get there for about 5am for 7.30am opening), other embassies not an applicant in site!!!

Dont know what the attraction is about the UK but thai people seem desparate to go

G

Mav · #24 15-06-2005, 15:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by geespot

On a slightly different note

Anybody been to the embassy area in Bangkok. Its quite a sight to see outside the British Embassy, literally ques about 300 yards long waiting to make visa applications (you have to get there for about 5am for 7.30am opening), other embassies not an applicant in site!!!

Dont know what the attraction is about the UK but thai people seem desparate to go

G

I think the Oz Embassy is very busy as well.......it was the day l visited to get some info in January

Mav · #25 15-06-2005, 15:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayBee

Sounds like everyone wants to move to Wales? Is it the LOS of the Northern hemisphere.?

What have they got there(besides Ricard Burton's grave)? Bar sheep?

Ryan Giggs

r3aps · #26 15-06-2005, 15:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by geespot

On a slightly different note

Anybody been to the embassy area in Bangkok. Its quite a sight to see outside the British Embassy, literally ques about 300 yards long waiting to make visa applications (you have to get there for about 5am for 7.30am opening), other embassies not an applicant in site!!!

Dont know what the attraction is about the UK but thai people seem desparate to go

G

hi mate,i havent seen her passport as i am over here and she is there.when i speak to her next i am gonna get her to scan and email me it,altho i spoke to the british embassy in bangkok myself and the guy said her visa was a multi entry 6 month visa valid 11 aug til 11 feb.so i assume she can come and go as she pleases.it was only on the application form we put 5 weeks as we was told if you put 6 months it makes it harder to get.i need to speak to them again i think,as i dont want her or me to get into trouble if she stays the full 6 months and not the 5 weeks as applied for originally.
steve

Sirgezza · #27 15-06-2005, 18:59

Hi 3raps,

I'm sorry

for my sarcastic and over the top post earlier in this thread. I get wound up sometimes when people show a lack of understanding of what goes on in my country. As has been pointed out, England is a part of the UK and we all come under that umberella for international matters.

I hope that you and your TG manage to spend some time together in the U.K. and that she enjoys herself with you here

. In your original post it looked like you were planning to travel around the UK. I think that this could be a rewarding experience for you both and I hope you reconsider your comment regarding Wales. You must remember that centuries ago it was the English who decided to invade Wales and take us over - against our wishes

. Now you are stuck with us.

If your TG is from Northern Thailand then taking her in to areas such as Snowdonia, the Lake District and the Scottish Highlands may help her readjust during her visit as it will make her feel at home. Try and pick a time when we have some nice weather though.

Once agin - good luck with her visit.

Oh - Jaybee - Richard Burton is buried in Switzerland, so we don't have him here - only sheep. Wales is the LOS of Europe (land of sheep). This reminds me, I'm trying to get a suitable avatar for myself on this forum. Does anyone know where I can get a sheep

avatar?

Sirgezza · #28 15-06-2005, 19:25

Amazing how this apology gets redcarded immediately by sometime telling me to'' grow up newbie''. Must be someone with lots of posts, but no balls to stay who they are. Perhaps I should just stick to sarcasm.

Edit note:

Just noticed that a certain user from Australia is on the forum who is notorious for leaving rude childish bad reps. Could be more than a coincidence as I made a sarcastic remark when he said that that people should not be rude on the forum. Naught boy - needs a telling off - again.

r3aps · #29 15-06-2005, 23:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by gez

Hi 3raps,

I'm sorry

for my sarcastic and over the top post earlier in this thread. I get wound up sometimes when people show a lack of understanding of what goes on in my country. As has been pointed out, England is a part of the UK and we all come under that umberella for international matters.

I hope that you and your TG manage to spend some time together in the U.K. and that she enjoys herself with you here

. In your original post it looked like you were planning to travel around the UK. I think that this could be a rewarding experience for you both and I hope you reconsider your comment regarding Wales. You must remember that centuries ago it was the English who decided to invade Wales and take us over - against our wishes

. Now you are stuck with us.

If your TG is from Northern Thailand then taking her in to areas such as Snowdonia, the Lake District and the Scottish Highlands may help her readjust during her visit as it will make her feel at home. Try and pick a time when we have some nice weather though.

Once agin - good luck with her visit.

Oh - Jaybee - Richard Burton is buried in Switzerland, so we don't have him here - only sheep. Wales is the LOS of Europe (land of sheep). This reminds me, I'm trying to get a suitable avatar for myself on this forum. Does anyone know where I can get a sheep

avatar?

no offence taken and i too was joking about wales,yes i do plan on showing her around and personally i have never been to wales or scotland so i wont knock it til i try it.
thxs
steve