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07-09-2005, 19:41
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August saw a welcome increase of tourists to the beach and the street vendors and hawkers were happily accosting shoppers once again. It has been lean times for all, but the Beach Road again has plenty of small shops open ready for visitors. The good news for all you husbands who suffer from a spouse with "shop ‘till you drop syndrome" is that the Beach Road is also heavily interspersed with bars. Let her shop while you drink a few cold ones!! For sundowners I can recommend the Beach Bar at the south end near the Ocean Shopping Plaza . It always draws an interesting crowd.
Black Rose Motorcycle Club
The Black Rose Motorcycle Club celebrated its second anniversary on the 20th August with a Biker rally. This charity group are involved in several bars and clubs on Soi Bangla and laid on a full weekend of food and drink. The main bars involved were the Blue Note, the Kangaroo and the Dragon Club all within easy staggering distance. On Saturday night, they had a bike display on Soi Bangla .This took the organizers some effort as special permission had to be obtained from the Governor himself to permit special use of Bangla. The weekend was well-attended with fellow bikers coming in from several other clubs in the region.
Nicky's Handlebar
Here on Phuket "Biker tourism" has increased over the years. Nicky's Handlebar on the Ratutit Road in Patong do specialist, escorted bike road trips off the island and into the neighbouring provinces. This bar itself is a popular spot with bike enthusiasts and non-bikers alike. The walls are festooned with bike memoribilia and spare parts. Many people drop in for meal and a few beers to soak up the atmosphere. If Nicky is in the house he will gladly give you a tour of his workshop and show off his collection of Harleys and Caddys.
Scruffy Murphy's
Scruffy's on Soi Bangla still enjoys a good crowd every night. The do a daily happy hour price on Tiger draught at 100 Baht per pint up to nine o'clock and draught Chang up to midnight at the same price. The band has doubled in size and with the addition of a drummer, is now known as the Two Red Hot Potatoes. Unfortunately they seem to have strayed from the concept of being an Irish Bar and their music tended to be a mix of Robbie Williams, Coldplay, Oasis and old Beatles stuff. In their defence they were responding to customer requests and it was a young crowd that night. In my humble opinion if you go into an Irish Bar then be prepared to listen to Irish music. Never mind, I still enjoyed myself and I do like their efficient staff who made sure my glass was never empty. Scruffy's is also open all day and has five large screen TVs for sports fans who like to escape the heat and relax in the aircon environment. The food is its usual high standard and they also run a daily specials board.
Molly Malones
Molly Malones on the Beach Road has been recruiting staff and is in the process of completing its repairs and refurbishment. They aim to be ready to open late September and will have the same format as their Scruffy Murphy's Bar .Before being wrecked by the tsunami, this bar was very popular and did a good selection of food and drinks. I am sure it will do as well as before being on such a prime location on the centre of Beach Road . Hopefully their management will soon be able to give us any information on their opening night.
A tale of two Chippies!!
A Englishman decided to do something new in Patong and he set out to open an English style Chippie. He had kicked the idea around with some friends and realized that the concept might work. He took a lease on brand new premises on Ratutit Road and outfitted it with all the correct cooking equipment and decorated the place out just like your local chippie back home. Sounds good so far? One of his so-called friends went further down the street to the OTOP shopping centre and took over a cheap Thai noodle cafe and opened an English fish and chip shop. They have large billboards outside two bars in OTOP with the Union flag proclaiming to be the best fish and chip shop in town. It is little wonder that the Thais think it is easy to rip off farangs - we do it to ourselves!!
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While the events of New Orleans were tragic I really took exception to some American commentators who said "It is America 's Tsunami". What total bullshit. Here on Patong Beach we had no warning. The people of New Orleans had four days of live TV countdown.
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07-09-2005, 21:21
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but the devastation is as much or more than the tsunami, structurely. fortunately, there is warnings. but you now have major cities in the united states that are inhabitable.
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07-09-2005, 21:26
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That should be un-inhabitable I think Marc?
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07-09-2005, 21:30
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but the devastation is as much or more than the tsunami, structurely. fortunately, there is warnings. but you now have major cities in the united states that are inhabitable.
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Well in temrs of people killed I guess the Tsunami was worse.. 100,000's rather than 10 - 20,000.. Economically I would say that it will be more destructive only due to the fact that US has higher wealth and more consumer goods to destroy than Ache / Sri Lanka etc..
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What gets me is that the Aussies that where stuck in New Orleans are now complaining that the Australian Government didnt do anything to help them. If they had of left the area when told to so days before, then they wouldnt have been stuck there. Its their own bloody fault.
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07-09-2005, 22:50
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The levees in NO were built to withstand a force 3 hurricane. I heard that it would have cost $22million dollars to have strengthened them to withstand force 5 hurricane but they decided not to do this. Looks like it could have been avoided if the work had been undertaken.
Simulation tests a few years ago predicted the devastation that would be caused by the levees giving way and this has now happened.
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i can,t understand why some one would build a city the size of the uk -below sea level, in an area prone to typhoons and construct most of the dwellings out of wood -
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Haven't seen any hurricane 'humour' of the kind that started this thread after the tsunami:
http://www.phuket-info.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5415
Suddenly natural disaters aren't funny?
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08-09-2005, 00:43
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The levees in NO were built to withstand a force 3 hurricane. I heard that it would have cost $22million dollars to have strengthened them to withstand force 5 hurricane but they decided not to do this. Looks like it could have been avoided if the work had been undertaken.
Simulation tests a few years ago predicted the devastation that would be caused by the levees giving way and this has now happened.
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I don't think it would be just 22 million dollars. I know that here in holland we have the same problem and that is the amount for just one dyke (or levee) not the whole system.
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i can,t understand why some one would build a city the size of the uk -below sea level, in an area prone to typhoons and construct most of the dwellings out of wood -
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The city is not the size of UK. The area affected is. New Orleans itself is not that big.
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Still a shame though, I was there 2 years ago and really enjoyed my visit. Some fabulous old buildings in the garden district, the huge casino downtown  , the great music/bar scene  and some wonderfully, friendly, local people
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I was there myself doing some work in 2001/2002 and indeed it is a wonderfull area. But Diz it seems that the casino part is still there as that is around the was it called waterfront mall (Right on the missisippi)? I saw it on tv being still standing up.
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I was there myself doing some work in 2001/2002 and indeed it is a wonderfull area. But Diz it seems that the casino part is still there as that is around the was it called waterfront mall (Right on the missisippi)? I saw it on tv being still standing up.
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It may well be standing up, but necessarily in the right place. One floating casino ended up on the highway. BTW, I was surprised by the $22m figure as well, maybe I misheard - did anyone else hear the report?
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When i saw the heading to this thread i thought the crazyswede had finally reached patong!
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It may well be standing up, but necessarily in the right place. One floating casino ended up on the highway. BTW, I was surprised by the $22m figure as well, maybe I misheard - did anyone else hear the report?
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I did, I will dig it out but I remember it as being 28 million dollars. It seems very different to Amsterdam, I realise there are similar problems but it's not the same geography is it? Maybe I'm wrong.

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It's in a Martin Samuel (pompous prick) article in the Times from 6th September, this is a direct quote:
'....cost of rebuilding New Orleans is at least 26 billion dollars. To finish the levee projects would have cost 208 million, of which the Bush administration sent 10 million'
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It may well be standing up, but necessarily in the right place. One floating casino ended up on the highway. BTW, I was surprised by the $22m figure as well, maybe I misheard - did anyone else hear the report?
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Well we were talking the New Orleans casino, the floating casino is in Mobile and not NO and those are hit harder then NO. I heard a 9 meter high wave washed through that area.
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What gets me is that the Aussies that where stuck in New Orleans are now complaining that the Australian Government didnt do anything to help them. If they had of left the area when told to so days before, then they wouldnt have been stuck there. Its their own bloody fault.
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I do not disagree with you.
However, I do wonder if the first people to complain were set up by one of our t.v. networks where the crux of the story was “Channel 7 rescues aussies” . And of course the main thrust of the story was of how good channel 7 was, not the rescuing of the people. For a reporter to get a response he wants is not difficult and again channel 7 wanted us to know how much better they were compared to everyone else including the Govt.
And on we went from there, with other media not being able to trump channel 7’s rescue but able to bag the Govt. as their big story.
Not long back we had an aussie, Donald Wood, kidnapped in Iraq. This was huge news in Australia with all media treating him as a hero. When he was rescued he moved to legend status amongst all media. Then a few days after the rescue he signs an exclusivity contract with one network. Well, you have never seen anyone go from hero to zero so damn quickly.
All of a sudden vile and venom from the media that missed out, outrage that he should thank the Americans , apoplexy that he did not thank his kidnappers for treating him so well, calls for him to repay rescue costs etc etc etc
Also, many years ago 60 minutes (Aust. Version) did a story of which I had some knowledge. The story was just absolute lies.
As I said I don’t disagree with you, but always pays to take with a grain of salt any stories emanating from the Australian media.
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What gets me is that the Aussies that where stuck in New Orleans are now complaining that the Australian Government didnt do anything to help them. If they had of left the area when told to so days before, then they wouldnt have been stuck there. Its their own bloody fault.
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Apparently some of the Aussie tourists reported that they were not fully informed of the extent impending of the hurricane. They arrived the day prior to the devastation occuring; so the airlines were still bringing people in!
I think anyone who could have left would have.
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I do not disagree with you.
However, I do wonder if the first people to complain were set up by one of our t.v. networks where the crux of the story was “Channel 7 rescues aussies” . And of course the main thrust of the story was of how good channel 7 was, not the rescuing of the people. For a reporter to get a response he wants is not difficult and again channel 7 wanted us to know how much better they were compared to everyone else including the Govt.
And on we went from there, with other media not being able to trump channel 7’s rescue but able to bag the Govt. as their big story.
Not long back we had an aussie, Donald Wood, kidnapped in Iraq. This was huge news in Australia with all media treating him as a hero. When he was rescued he moved to legend status amongst all media. Then a few days after the rescue he signs an exclusivity contract with one network. Well, you have never seen anyone go from hero to zero so damn quickly.
All of a sudden vile and venom from the media that missed out, outrage that he should thank the Americans , apoplexy that he did not thank his kidnappers for treating him so well, calls for him to repay rescue costs etc etc etc
Also, many years ago 60 minutes (Aust. Version) did a story of which I had some knowledge. The story was just absolute lies.
As I said I don’t disagree with you, but always pays to take with a grain of salt any stories emanating from the Australian media.
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Yes agree here.....you just cannot afford to believe what the Oz media put out these days (mainly the commercial networks)......it's all to do with making themselves look good....any positive spin that they can put on it, they will.
Trouble is Joe Public will often take on face what is put out.....you only have to look at the frenzy the media created over Schapelle Corby.......all of a sudden everyone in Australia KNEW she was innocent.
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'scuse my lack of geographical knowledge but I'm amazed the Mississippi has never burst its banks with similar effects.
Or has it?
I feel really sorry for the people in the Superdome who thought they were rescued and safe only to be scared stiff to go to sleep because of the knife muggings/rapings/murdering etc that is going on there.
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Isnt new orleans at the mouth of missipi so i would think a major port for inland us ?
think it would be very important to rebuild it ?
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It may well be standing up, but necessarily in the right place. One floating casino ended up on the highway. BTW, I was surprised by the $22m figure as well, maybe I misheard - did anyone else hear the report?
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Here's what I read, IIRC. The cost of doing some repair/upgrade work to the levee system was about $200 million, which they would have been happy to get , 'cause it would have helped some.
But to overhaul the whole levee system, as recommended by the study done, so that it could withstand a CAT 5 hurricane would have cost roughly $2 Billion. Even so, this would have been a lot cheaper than the estimated $26 Billion damage done by Katrina.
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cost of space shuttle ? (wasted money IMHO)
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What gets me is that the Aussies that where stuck in New Orleans are now complaining that the Australian Government didnt do anything to help them. If they had of left the area when told to so days before, then they wouldnt have been stuck there. Its their own bloody fault.
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I have to agree to that.
If i can read the warnings and advices to leave NO 3 days before it hit in Swedish newspapers, how come those flying in to NO doesnt pay attention to the warnings......?
If there was a warning about a storm like that to a place im supposed to go to, i would stay home..
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