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Food and your moods
Just watching an interesting show on NG, about different types of food and its affects on your moods.
High carb foods tend to make you feel sleepy and slow thinking, whereas meats make you alert and fast thinking. Now thinking back in time, I guess I can relate to this, and there does appear to be some truth in it.
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Having Roast Beef ,roast potatoes and Yorkshire pudding tomorrow , guaranteed I'm going to feel sleepy and slow thinking after that . And a fat bastard . 
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Just watching an interesting show on NG, about different types of food and its affects on your moods.
High carb foods tend to make you feel sleepy and slow thinking, whereas meats make you alert and fast thinking. Now thinking back in time, I guess I can relate to this, and there does appear to be some truth in it.
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of course, just think of the foods.
eat a heavy meal, which usually consists of high carb foods, such as potatoes, and it weighs you down.
meats are all protein so will give you that energy.
not that i am the picture of health, but the human body and foods are amazing. its all chemical.
all of us go on diest and eat what we are suppose to eat. but if you went to a nutritionist, they could compile a diet based on your body that would make you lose weight without half the effort
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I also find I think talk and react faster on an empty stomach (I guess thats natural hieghtening of the senses to make you go and hunt).. When I used to have to do lots of biz meetings and deal with the many client problems I would always make sure I was hungry..
I am sure it makes you more competative..
As I said before I am big on taking gin sing, gruana, etc (on top of expresso all day) also to keep you wired... I dont know how I would function without coffee..
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As marc said, some funky shit goes on with chemicals. After a workout i have some gatorade and a protein shake and i feel like a ball. In the morning green tea wakes me up, but i think energy is also a lifestyle issue, i tend to find when im out and about busy at uni etc, i will have more energy than if im a lazy **** listening to music then try and go to uni i will be lathargic, they also say excercise gives you a lot more energy.
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Yeah so they say.. Never found out tho  !!! I really am way too lazy !!!
Another aspect is my hippy parents (especially my mother) were really big on the idea that healthy food and certain foods was important for brain and intelligance development as a child..
My mother is a vegatarian of 35 odd years now (not that I think thats healthiest but cutting meat out of a diet does cut out a huge amount of the fats we consume) and our house treats were always fruits (of which our family always had a huge fruit bowl with luxury and odd fruits even when we had a junker of a car etc) and even now I have absolutely no sweet tooth (cant take sugar in coffee, dont like chocolate or almost any form of sweets, etc).. Organic vegetables and meats long before that was fashionable or even easy to get..
I think the whole processed food industry is a bit suspect, presevatives, colorings, stablizers, E numbers etc etc etc..
Have to say I agree with them 100% now I am old enough to think about it..
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Yeah so they say.. Never found out tho  !!! I really am way too lazy !!!
Another aspect is my hippy parents (especially my mother) were really big on the idea that healthy food and certain foods was important for brain and intelligance development as a child..
My mother is a vegatarian of 35 odd years now (not that I think thats healthiest but cutting meat out of a diet does cut out a huge amount of the fats we consume) and our house treats were always fruits (of which our family always had a huge fruit bowl with luxury and odd fruits even when we had a junker of a car etc) and even now I have absolutely no sweet tooth (cant take sugar in coffee, dont like chocolate or almost any form of sweets, etc).. Organic vegetables and meats long before that was fashionable or even easy to get..
I think the whole processed food industry is a bit suspect, presevatives, colorings, stablizers, E numbers etc etc etc..
Have to say I agree with them 100% now I am old enough to think about it..
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haha man, my mum is the exact same, been a vego since she was 15... Always gives me fruit and shit, she lives on tofu and vegetables. Although it didn't rub into me, i love fruit, but i still like chocolate and lollies etc. Everything has to be organic, and if she is buying chicken etc for us it has to be free range.
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low GI low FAT heaps of vegs and fruit.
have lost 7.5kgs since 2 jan also cut out the piss,best I have felt for 10 years
notice now if i dont eat at set times and have fruit between meals get massive headache.
within minutes of eating headache goes,must be pshcological as body cant process food that quick.
always have done my problem solving thinking in early day seem to be more alert.
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The best way i find if i want to lose a few kilos is to cut of my carbs 3-4 hours before i go to bed, and drink a lot of water to keep me full. I also lift weights, and do cardio on off days, and limit bad food (chips, pies, soft drink), usually after a month or so i will see great results.
BTW congrats aussie, great achievment, i know how hard it is to stick to a regime.
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I think the whole processed food industry is a bit suspect, presevatives, colorings, stablizers, E numbers etc etc etc..
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You're not wrong there, it worries me to see kids growing up at home drinking all those chemical based drinks (Sunny Delight comes to mind) on top of that they go to school and get fed absolute crap as well. It seems to be the poorer end of society that are worse off as they can't afford the over-priced "organic" foods. I used to regularly see parents back home fill up their trolleys with stuff from the frozen section and booze, nothing else literally no fresh foods of any kind.
Now I'm not a fan of Jamie Oliver but what he is trying to achieve in schools is the direction the whole country should be heading in. Vegetables/Fruit/Grains etc and everything else in moderation. I remember seeing kids on his programme that were being referred to constipation clinics as they had not been to the toilet for 2 weeks! and these kids were as young as 5!! That is scary, what hope have they got of being healthy in the future.
One of the episodes I remember was a Mum who just fed the kids out of the freezer (but refused to eat it herself - good Mum!) well her little boy was a maniac, biting/kicking everyone and being a pain the a**e generally. They were showed how to cook semi-healthy foods and given a shopping list. The Mum was in the supermarket looking for fresh Basil, and she had to ask the sound guy what it was, and the reaction to "it's a herb" was "what? I've got to eat leaves?"
Anyway, after a couple of weeks they go back and the kid has turned into a little darling, no grief, no refusing to go to bed or school. So the parents decide to treat him to a McDonalds, and within 10 minutes he was going crazy again  hhmmmm....??
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Funny you should say that. I just watched the documentary Supersize Me. If you guys have never seen it you should check it out.
It's about this guy who researching obesity in America and how it relates to the fast food and the processed stuff in the typical American diet. So he goes on an all McDonald's diet for 30 days. It's amazing how his body and his mood changes in that time. He would go on mood swings where he would only feel happy when he's eating McDonald's. He gain like 25 pounds and he was destroying his liver like an alcoholic.
Interesting stuff. I will never touch a McDonald's fry after that.
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That guy was very fit for his age, but it still took him IIRC 8 months to shed the weight put on in those 30 days, and that was on a diet from his missus who is a Vegan chef, so presume it was ultra healthy. I remember the doctor telling him to stop the diet, and offered to admit him there and then, and I think that was only after 20 days or so!!
I generally stay away from McD's/BK etc.. (easy when you don't eat meat) but do very occasionally have one, and then instantly remember why I never go there in the first place. It's all crap really, but I did use to pay special trips to McD's as I could get a Rootbeer fix
Read about a Hindu organisation that sued McD's cos they were frying their fries in Beef fat at the factory but then in veg fat on the premises, but were telling everyone they were vegetarian fries 
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. He gain like 25 pounds and he was destroying his liver like an alcoholic.
Interesting stuff. I will never touch a McDonald's fry after that.
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Any one can gain weight eating almost anything. Ice, and celery are perhaps some of the exceptions.
Most of the folks blame everything expect themselves. I worked at McD for 20 years, And for 6 months, that was all I ate. The wife ran off and left me with all the bills, and I had a -$300/month cash flow, so, I could not even afford to buy food. I never gained an ounce, and my liver is just fine.
For those of you who want to blame the fast food places, that's fine, but 99% of the problem is folks do not know the word MODERATION. Remember, when you start pointing fingers, there are 4 pointing back at you.
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Any one can gain weight eating almost anything. Ice, and celery are perhaps some of the exceptions.
Most of the folks blame everything expect themselves. I worked at McD for 20 years, And for 6 months, that was all I ate. The wife ran off and left me with all the bills, and I had a -$300/month cash flow, so, I could not even afford to buy food. I never gained an ounce, and my liver is just fine.
For those of you who want to blame the fast food places, that's fine, but 99% of the problem is folks do not know the word MODERATION. Remember, when you start pointing fingers, there are 4 pointing back at you.
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i dont think thats true. if you look at the nutritional chart on those burgers, its outrageous.
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For those of you who want to blame the fast food places, that's fine, but 99% of the problem is folks do not know the word MODERATION. Remember, when you start pointing fingers, there are 4 pointing back at you.
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I agree with you. I think that what the Americans sorely lack these days is personal responsibility. They sue fastfood joints because they're fat and sue cigarette companies for giving them lung cancer as if they had no personal decision in their eating habits. My problem with big name fast food joints is the additives and the chemicals they put in their food and how they grow their beef or chicken.
I'm not a vegan or organic nut and I love a nice greasy cheeseburger or fried chicken now and then but I'm not going to go out to McD's or KFCs where you get a burger made of meat from hundreds of cows or wings from a chicken fed with chopped up parts of other chickens.
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Any one can gain weight eating almost anything. Ice, and celery are perhaps some of the exceptions.
Most of the folks blame everything expect themselves. I worked at McD for 20 years, And for 6 months, that was all I ate. The wife ran off and left me with all the bills, and I had a -$300/month cash flow, so, I could not even afford to buy food. I never gained an ounce, and my liver is just fine.
For those of you who want to blame the fast food places, that's fine, but 99% of the problem is folks do not know the word MODERATION. Remember, when you start pointing fingers, there are 4 pointing back at you.
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I totally agree with you. But who is going to teach them moderation??? Certainly not all the advertisements that appear on childrens TV for sweets, fast food etc.. (Ronald McDonald the perfect example) I know there are moves afoot to change this to a certain degree in many countries but fast food places do have to take some responsibility as to the quality of their foods, where they are sourced from and how the animals are treated before making it to the table. I think it says alot that McD's brought a range of salads, even though with the dressing they were as fatty as a Big Mac, people are starting to switch on to what goes into their food and hopefully will slowly refrain from eating these foods on a daily basis.
The one thing that made me stop eating meat was a UK Channel4 series that over the course of 5 days tracked the food from the farm through the abattoir and packing to the plate. Just on that one programme was enough evidence to show that the meat that ends up in some of our food is not fit for human consumption. Meat being re-labelled after it's sell-by date, unhygienic packing facilities etc.. Also the treatment of the animals was pretty shocking too, but I guess that a different discussion.
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I agree with you. I think that what the Americans sorely lack these days is personal responsibility. They sue fastfood joints because they're fat and sue cigarette companies for giving them lung cancer as if they had no personal decision in their eating habits. My problem with big name fast food joints is the additives and the chemicals they put in their food and how they grow their beef or chicken.
I'm not a vegan or organic nut and I love a nice greasy cheeseburger or fried chicken now and then but I'm not going to go out to McD's or KFCs where you get a burger made of meat from hundreds of cows or wings from a chicken fed with chopped up parts of other chickens.
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i dont think thats true. if you look at the nutritional chart on those burgers, its outrageous.
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You don't think what is true?? Moderation??
I repeat, you can eat anything that you want, just don't eat 5000 calories every day. If I am sedentary, I must eat 1200 calories a day or less, or I will gain weight. If I am diving or hiking a lot then I can go to 2500 and still maintain.
If you go to the average person on the street, and ask them about what they ate for breakfast, and how many calories, they wouldn't have a clue.
Some will tell you that the had a Starbucks NONFAT mocha latte, thinking that they were really watching what they had--------------300calories. Then they think that a bran muffin was healthy??-----405 calories. That breakfast was 700 calories, if all they do is sit at a computer, no wonder they gain weight.
Someone said " who is going to teach them" Well, who teaches children right from wrong? not the schools, it falls on the parents. If the parents don't care about nutrition, they most of the kids won't either.
Why are we over weight??
bacardi breezer- 200 calories
12 oz Heineken-160 calories
1 shot--------- 100 calories
4 oz wine------100 calories
If you are active, and you burn it off, great. But too many of us feel drunk and figure that if they eat something it will help them feel better. True, but there is some more fuel for the furnace that has to be burned, and if you just go and crash, it will stay in your reserves.
I think I'll go have a beer

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lucky,
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I can't say I have. I'm going to have to try that soon. I really like the burgers at "Paul's Palace" on 2nd Ave and Astor Pl. If you ever make it back to NYC let me know. I'll take you out for a burger and some beer.
Paul's Palace - http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=4931124
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I can't say I have. I'm going to have to try that soon. I really like the burgers at "Paul's Palace" on 2nd Ave and Astor Pl. If you ever make it back to NYC let me know. I'll take you out for a burger and some beer.
Paul's Palace - http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=4931124
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corner bistro is thought as the best hamburger in nyc, has been for many years, but im sure Paul's is good.
i could also give you a whole in the wall italina place in williamsburg that is some of the ebst italian ive ever eaten!~
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You're not wrong there, it worries me to see kids growing up at home drinking all those chemical based drinks (Sunny Delight comes to mind) on top of that they go to school and get fed absolute crap as well. It seems to be the poorer end of society that are worse off as they can't afford the over-priced "organic" foods. I used to regularly see parents back home fill up their trolleys with stuff from the frozen section and booze, nothing else literally no fresh foods of any kind.
Now I'm not a fan of Jamie Oliver but what he is trying to achieve in schools is the direction the whole country should be heading in. Vegetables/Fruit/Grains etc and everything else in moderation. I remember seeing kids on his programme that were being referred to constipation clinics as they had not been to the toilet for 2 weeks! and these kids were as young as 5!! That is scary, what hope have they got of being healthy in the future.
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There was an amazing documentary about a school for troubled kids.. These were council state kids who were stealing, robbing, very violent, moodswings, parents couldnt handle them, etc..
This special sort of borstal school had an experiment were they cut down drastically meats and hardly any red meat at all.. No colorings, organics etc..
The shcool which was normally a nightmare of kids with serious social problems changed dramically over a month..
Was shocking how much it changed..
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Any one can gain weight eating almost anything. Ice, and celery are perhaps some of the exceptions.
Most of the folks blame everything expect themselves. I worked at McD for 20 years, And for 6 months, that was all I ate. The wife ran off and left me with all the bills, and I had a -$300/month cash flow, so, I could not even afford to buy food. I never gained an ounce, and my liver is just fine.
For those of you who want to blame the fast food places, that's fine, but 99% of the problem is folks do not know the word MODERATION. Remember, when you start pointing fingers, there are 4 pointing back at you.
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Sorry I just dont agree with you.. What makes a burger or a chicken nugget is not quality of meat I am comfortable eating.. sodium levels through the roof, preservatives, colorings, stabalizers and dies..
Its not to do with moderation its to do with chemical toxicity.. The super size me guy didnt go out and gorge himself on this diet, he ate 3 times a day with a beakfast and 2 normal meals, wile continueing his normal lifestyle (he was fit and active) he gained massive fat weight and his liver was quiting after only 20 or so days..
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