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Old 23-05-2006, 05:37
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A good example of why I want to leave Britain for good!

East Hertfordshire Council have sacked their tea lady. That, you may think is hardly earth shattering news ......... But wait After 'removing' the tea lady, they then hired £200-a-day consultants .......... To tell staff how to make a cuppa!! Forty-six year old Jill Melvin, was sacked from her £8,000-a-year job in March and since then staff have been without a trolley service and have had to negotiate stairs and fire doors, with hot tea in their hands, on their way back to their desks after getting their brew from a self-service machine. Already some workers have injured themselves. One has scalded a hand while brewing up and another has broken a wrist. Bosses at the council's offices in Bishop's Stortford, called in the "experts" to advise on health and safety at the cost of £200-a-day. The 150 council staff were asked how accidents could be reduced, and they told bosses to bring back the tea lady. Unison spokesperson, Jane Sharp, said that hiring the consultants was a complete waste of taxpayers' money, suggesting that it was obvious what the risks of carrying tea were. (A bit of a potty move, eh East Herts?)
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Old 23-05-2006, 08:23
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I think we should all just quit our jobs and change out specialities with the word Consultant on the end.

Then we could get £200 a day for telling people common sense and bollox.

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Personally, I think they got it wrong; They should have sacked the boss of the council, and given his job to the tea lady at £8,000 per year. At least by delivering the tea, she was being more productive!
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heres another reason:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5010888.stm

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Melissa Miller can keep the £5m she was awarded out of her ex-husband Alan's £17.5m fortune, said the lords.

Julia McFarlane is entitled to £250,000 a year from her ex-husband Kenneth for life - not just the five years decided by the Court of Appeal.

The House of Lords' decisions could have far-reaching implications for future big money divorce settlements.

'Stay-at-home mothers'

Mrs McFarlane had argued she gave up a high-earning career when she married 18 years earlier.

After the ruling, she said: "Obviously I am very happy."

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Sorry dont see anything wrong with that at all, Why shouldnt she get what she deserves?

She gave up her high paying carear because her husband wanted to her to stay at home with the kids, She made the sacrafice for the both of them, So now after 18yrs married you expect him to just fcuk off and keep all the money leaving her with nothing?

As far as I am concerned shs is entitlted to it...
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Sorry dont see anything wrong with that at all, Why shouldnt she get what she deserves?

She gave up her high paying carear because her husband wanted to her to stay at home with the kids, She made the sacrafice for the both of them, So now after 18yrs married you expect him to just fcuk off and keep all the money leaving her with nothing?

As far as I am concerned shs is entitlted to it...

I never said she should "just fcuk off and keep all the money leaving her with nothing", it's the bit in bold I highlighted Julia McFarlane is entitled to £250,000 a year for life - not just the five years if it was for 10 years, then fine, £250,000 a year for life is a lot of money (and probably got her fair share of objects + cars in the spilit)

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As far as I am concerned shs is entitlted to it...
especially when her ex-husband earns £750k per year.
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Sorry lads I dont agree that she should get 250K for the rest of her life. No fecking way. 250K is alot more the some woman willl make in a couple of years. Just cos you take care of a woman ina certain way for years do you have to keep her in that lifestyle?? I think not, Time for her to get back on the horse and be productive. Now Im not saying just tell her to feck off thats not right. But 250K Just cos her husband makes money does not mean he should have to keep her in that smae lifestyle. I live in California and that is a bg issue here. Way to big when you have the likes of Anna NIcole Smith trying to take everything when she was marrried to a dying old man. Wheres the logic there. How about Nick Lachey divorcing Jessiaca Simpson and getting half then allof those biitchy women complaining that hes not a man for taking it. A bit of a hypocrit move by women. There has to be a better way to determine how long and how much you hould ive to a woman on the split. I would burn it b4 giving that much to them. Way unfair for men. If women want to be equal then let then, but time the step up and do a fair share as well. IMO
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. I live in California and that is a bg issue here. Way to big when you have the likes of Anna NIcole Smith trying to take everything when she was marrried to a dying old man. Wheres the logic there.

I don't see what is wrong with ANS getting some money out of that estate if anyone is going to benefit from it......she was married to the old coot at the time of death and as the current wife she has just as much right to it as the son!!!!!..........

I'd sooner give it to a crack whoare than that asshole son of his who is just being vindictive because his dad had a darn good time for the last couple of years of his life.........and embarrasssed the shithead amongst his business buddies.......give it all to charity would be the best result..........no one really deserves it in this case.........

and in Nic Lahey's case I think of him the same way as I do the women who ask for the same..........nasty, avaricious and vengefull opportunists..........

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Sorry lads I dont agree that she should get 250K for the rest of her life. No fecking way. 250K is alot more the some woman willl make in a couple of years. Just cos you take care of a woman ina certain way for years do you have to keep her in that lifestyle?? I think not, Time for her to get back on the horse and be productive. Now Im not saying just tell her to feck off thats not right. But 250K Just cos her husband makes money does not mean he should have to keep her in that smae lifestyle. I live in California and that is a bg issue here. Way to big when you have the likes of Anna NIcole Smith trying to take everything when she was marrried to a dying old man. Wheres the logic there. How about Nick Lachey divorcing Jessiaca Simpson and getting half then allof those biitchy women complaining that hes not a man for taking it. A bit of a hypocrit move by women. There has to be a better way to determine how long and how much you hould ive to a woman on the split. I would burn it b4 giving that much to them. Way unfair for men. If women want to be equal then let then, but time the step up and do a fair share as well. IMO

What do you mean keep her in the same lifestyle? Thats not what this is about...

She sacraficed her "Carear" so he could have his, And had his kids and looked after them and supported him and them for 18yrs, I bet you he was not making 750k a year when she married him? By giving up her Carear and supporting his, She has contributed to him being who and where is is today, She helped build the lifestyle you are refering too, And then when they split up, He gets to keep up that lifestyle and she doesnt after all she sacraficed?... Fcuking right she deserves it as long as he is earning it... Its not like he has to live the life of a pauper, He still has 500k a year to live on....

And about your comments about her being productive, And getting back on the horse, Your making it sound like it is easy or something? Remember this woman is 18yrs older now than she was when she was in her prime and the job opportunaties were open to her, The same opportunaties will not be availible to her now at her age.. And who is to say if she had not have given up her carear that she would not be as successful today as he is now? There is no getting back them 18yrs, And 18yrs of salary... Again she deserves every penny IMO...
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I would like to see what High Paying Job she gave up. That was paying 250k a year. She should be entitled to just 50% thats it. Thats what most get. I'd just relocate out of the country so she wouldnt get her hands on the money.

Or if you are that rich, get her bumped off for about 10k

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I would like to see what High Paying Job she gave up. That was paying 250k a year. She should be entitled to just 50% thats it. Thats what most get. I'd just relocate out of the country so she wouldnt get her hands on the money.

Or if you are that rich, get her bumped off for about 10k

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If she gets 50% of 750K per year Electro she would be getting much more than the $250K she has asked for......you do the math.......
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If she gets 50% of 750K per year Electro she would be getting much more than the $250K she has asked for......you do the math.......

Also she only recieved 5m of his 17.5m... So she didnt even get half of that
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If she gets 50% of 750K per year Electro she would be getting much more than the $250K she has asked for......you do the math.......

Im not that stupid with maths.
I did not mention 50% of his wage per year.

I mean 50% of his total worth. NO more, but obviously alot less if he can work it with the Lawyer. But someone just said she got 5million pounds from his 17.5. Well if she cant live on 5m then what is she doing with that money?

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I did not mention 50% of his wage per year.

I mean 50% of his total worth. NO more, but obviously alot less if he can work it with the Lawyer. But someone just said she got 5million pounds from his 17.5. Well if she cant live on 5m then what is she doing with that money?

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Its not about whether she can live on 5m or not, Its about her getting what is rightfully hers, They both went into the marriage as a partnership, She gave up her carear to have his kids, And take care of him and the kids, So that he could keep his carear and build it up to the 750k a year he is earning now.. On the basis that the money he earned from his job was to support both of them for life... She cant get her Carear back now and who is too say whether she could not have been at least half as succesful as him if she had not have sacraficed it for him?...

Its not like he started out with 17.5m, He amased this money over the 18yrs of there marriage, Not before it, So she was by his side supporting him all the while, And he still has 12.5m, And is also getting 500k for himself to live on every year... So it not like he is poverty line.... And if he cant live on that...Well
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I am not familiar with the case but by the sound of it as presented it doesnt sound extreme..

250k + 5m for her..

He keeps 12.5m and earns 750k.. The 12.5m probably makes another 800 - 1.2m if safely invested (nearer the 1.25 would be my guess) so hes on 2m per year and has to give her a bit over 10% of his income..

That doesnt sound too bad..

If he had given 1/2 of his assets in total 8.75m and she got 10% returns she would get 875k per year income.. As it is she gets 250k and (at 10%) 500k for a 750k annual total.. she actually gets less annually and less in absolute % terms in this way !!

I think everyones comments are based on the fact its large numbers rather than analysing whats roughly equal.. Comments like whats she doing with the 5m is basically her business.. If she has spent 18 years as someones partner and come up to the level of living as a multi millionaire and supported his efforts to get there I think she has the right to remain in that standard of living.

Also of course depends on grounds for divorce.. Like if she or he was caught cheating does that assist the other persons divorce claims ??? Does the grounds come into the settlement question ??
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Also of course depends on grounds for divorce.. Like if she or he was caught cheating does that assist the other persons divorce claims ??? Does the grounds come into the settlement question ??

Saw this on Newsnight - amazing (IMHO) is that grounds of divorce are irrelevent according to the Judges. So, schemeing wh0re can trap a guy and get married, then p1ss off after a year taking a nice little lumo sum and an income for life.
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Saw this on Newsnight - amazing (IMHO) is that grounds of divorce are irrelevent according to the Judges. So, schemeing wh0re can trap a guy and get married, then p1ss off after a year taking a nice little lumo sum and an income for life.

Yes I agree thats a joke really and should not be allowed to happen

Although from what I read, That is totally different than this case though Gez...
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I can see both sides to that arguement.. On one hand theres a lot of room for he said she said argueing and unbrelaiable information in a divorce case, Also I guess there is grounds to keep the financial aspect away from the emotional one..

On the other hand if one person is morally in the wrong and creates the breakup it is hard not to side with the other person in the case.
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Sorry lads I dont agree that she should get 250K for the rest of her life. No fecking way. 250K is alot more the some woman willl make in a couple of years. Just cos you take care of a woman ina certain way for years do you have to keep her in that lifestyle?? I think not, Time for her to get back on the horse and be productive. Now Im not saying just tell her to feck off thats not right. But 250K Just cos her husband makes money does not mean he should have to keep her in that smae lifestyle. I live in California and that is a bg issue here. Way to big when you have the likes of Anna NIcole Smith trying to take everything when she was marrried to a dying old man. Wheres the logic there. How about Nick Lachey divorcing Jessiaca Simpson and getting half then allof those biitchy women complaining that hes not a man for taking it. A bit of a hypocrit move by women. There has to be a better way to determine how long and how much you hould ive to a woman on the split. I would burn it b4 giving that much to them. Way unfair for men. If women want to be equal then let then, but time the step up and do a fair share as well. IMO

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I would like to see what High Paying Job she gave up.
Well she certainly wasn't a tea lady for Herts Council!
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