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Old 08-12-2006, 19:23
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Rapist asylum seeker due damages

A failed asylum seeker convicted of raping a 13-year-old girl is to be awarded damages after a judge ruled he was unlawfully detained in prison.

A High Court judge ruled his detention became unlawful because of its length, and he was entitled to compensation.

Human rights lawyers said he could get up to £50,000 from the Home Office.

Mr Justice Calvert Smith, sitting in London, said the detention became unlawful because of its length, the impossibility of achieving removal and misleading statements for immigration officials.


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I don't give a toss if this piece of pig **** "suffered" because of the length of his detention. It seems the human rights act does not apply to victims.

This is not just 1 case there are loads where the thug is treated better

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Downright disgraceful ... hope the victim sues him for ALL if it.

And whats with the weather? Tornado in Kensal Rise ... freaky or what - glad to not be there for sure, can put up with the odd storm or too and the odd rude tourist.
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Rapist asylum seeker due damages

A failed asylum seeker convicted of raping a 13-year-old girl is to be awarded damages after a judge ruled he was unlawfully detained in prison.

A High Court judge ruled his detention became unlawful because of its length, and he was entitled to compensation.

Human rights lawyers said he could get up to £50,000 from the Home Office.

Mr Justice Calvert Smith, sitting in London, said the detention became unlawful because of its length, the impossibility of achieving removal and misleading statements for immigration officials.


BBC NEWS | UK | Rapist asylum seeker due damages

I don't give a toss if this piece of pig **** "suffered" because of the length of his detention. It seems the human rights act does not apply to victims.

This is not just 1 case there are loads where the thug is treated better

Human rights lawyers
Wow!!!!!!!! this is crazy..

Hope his neighbors give him a time when he gets home. I know if he lived in my neighborhood he would be banned...... especially for RAPE
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Hang on a minute. He was sentenced to eight years imprisonment, but was made to serve eleven! Of course he was illegally detained, all because of some **** up at the immigration department.
Now I am not going to argue that eight years is too lenient for what he did - but that was the sentence handed down. To then keep him in jail for another 36 months is out of order.
If, whoever's job it was, to deal with him on his release can't get their act together then they should pay him compensation.
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Just as bad case heard and reported earlier this week in London.

A 40yr old deaf Ethiopean has been aqquitted of rape and indecent assault on five under age children because he cannot understand English and his hearing is not sufficient for him to understand a translation.
The judge decided he would not therefore receive a fair trial.

Incidentally, he is an illegal immigrant, and not one mention was made of him being deported. Its enough to make the parents of those kids take the law into their own hands. I would.
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This country's a joke, simple as that.

Im 25 and disgusted with the changes in england in my short lifetime,

you older fellers must be fuming because of how different uk is now compared to when you grew up.



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Hang on a minute. He was sentenced to eight years imprisonment, but was made to serve eleven! Of course he was illegally detained, all because of some **** up at the immigration department.
Now I am not going to argue that eight years is too lenient for what he did - but that was the sentence handed down. To then keep him in jail for another 36 months is out of order.
If, whoever's job it was, to deal with him on his release can't get their act together then they should pay him compensation.

The problem was they were trying to deport him by due to "human rights act" they can't send back home to Somalia because he said he would be killed (in other words he wants to stay for free benefits) So they have to find another country to take this sub-human piece of shit and its difficult. it's like that Somalian who killed the policewoman, he couldn't be deported but was let out by mistake and fled back home

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Wow!!!!!!!! this is crazy..

Hope his neighbors give him a time when he gets home. I know if he lived in my neighborhood he would be banned...... especially for RAPE

Knowing the UK system, the rapist will get a new identify and police protection paid by the UK tax payer.

I'm 28 and also disgusted with this country, would love to move to another country but its so difficult when you are not a doctor etc
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Story's of this nature no longer shock or surprise me, such is the frequency with which this and other similar tales emerge. Common sense may as well be deleted from the english dictionary thanks to the red tape, rules and regulations of the human rights act which we adhere to so thoroughly.

For me, home made criminals are one thing. They were born and bred here and our our own problem. But one thing that I can not accept are those who come here as asylum seekers under the pretence of 'fleeing from persecution/certain death from their homeland' and then abuse our hospitality!! These individuals should be dealt with a lot more severely than home grown criminals.

And only 8 years for raping a young girl at knifepoint!? In many countries in the world this would still attract the death penalty! Yet those in power here believe that we are above such punishment as our country is 'civilised'....apparently? Pure arrogance. What a joke we have become!

Like a few comments above, I too would love to leave this small island behind forever!!!

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Believe me, England is no worse than the US. We have child rapists here that have gotten no prison time at all, just a suspended sentence and probation. Bastards! I'm surprised we haven't requested that you ship him here. But then again, we do seem to prefer illegal immigrants. We have millions living here now. It's easier for them to live and work here than it is for me to live in Thailand.
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Believe me, England is no worse than the US. We have child rapists here that have gotten no prison time at all, just a suspended sentence and probation.

That John Karr nutter is a free man and making loads of money doing interviews and TV. When they arrested him all the media talked about was the JonBenet murder but the guy is a pretty much bang to rights pedo. In BKK he was working in a school and touching up the kids there he even admits to doing it!
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Just to go back to the original point, I read an article in the Guardian today and this is not as cut and dried as all that.

The guy should have been released after serving his sentence 18 months ago, but they kept him locked up because there was no mechanism in place to send him back to Somalia. There is now, and that's where he has gone.

The extra 18 months he served is what he is suing for and, under our laws, he is due the money because he should have been released. His victim is perfectly entitled to sue him for every penny and send him back to Somalia with **** all, which is what is very likely to happen.

It might be that the kid involved will end up the money, which at least gives her something, and this piece of sh1t ends up back in Somalia potless; let's hope so. Somalia must be a charming place.
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Missed out on 'A'-Levels or what ever they've been replaced by then how about this .............

College launches Big Brother course

A college is hoping to tempt unemployed teenagers back into education with a course on Big Brother and other reality TV shows.

Students will examine the "cultural importance" of hit shows like Pop Idol and I'm a Celebrity ... Get Me Out Of Here during the three-day workshops at Filton College, north Bristol.

They will also get the chance to star in their own Big Brother experiment and learn how to take video footage.

The course, which aims to boost the participants' confidence and give them a "taste" of a possible career, will be run by experts from the college's media department.

Other topics on offer include nail art, horse riding, survival techniques, football coaching and beauty.

Those completing the courses will be given an MP3 player and those taking part in sports-related studies will get free membership of a gym.

They have also been reassured they will not lose any benefits by taking part in the scheme.

College leaders claim the "Discovery Days" sessions aim to give people a "life-changing" experience and a chance to experience "jobs" they may be interested in pursuing.

However, they stressed the reality TV course was not simply to help prepare people for auditions for the Channel 4 show.

The Discovery Days will be held over three consecutive days in March, April and July.
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The extra 18 months he served is what he is suing for and, under our laws, he is due the money because he should have been released. His victim is perfectly entitled to sue him for every penny and send him back to Somalia with **** all, which is what is very likely to happen.

so far nothing has happened and if did get sued (or released at the time) he probably would of left the country or go back to Somalia scott free (like the one that murdered the policewoman when he claimed he couldn't go back because he would be killed)
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The Squirrel And The Grasshopper In Modern Britain

REST OF THE WORLD VERSION:

The squirrel works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building and improving his house and laying up supplies for the winter.

The grasshopper thinks he's a fool, and laughs and dances and plays the summer away.

Come winter, the squirrel is warm and well fed.

The shivering grasshopper has no food or shelter, so he dies out in the cold.


THE U.K. VERSION:

The squirrel works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter.

The grasshopper thinks he's a fool, and laughs and dances and plays the summer away.

Come winter, the squirrel is warm and well fed.

A social worker finds the shivering grasshopper, calls a press conference and demands to know why the squirrel should be allowed to be warm and well fed while others less fortunate, like the grasshopper, are cold and starving.

The BBC shows up to provide live coverage of the shivering grasshopper; with cuts to a video of the squirrel in his comfortable warm home with a table laden with food.

The British press informs people that they should be ashamed that in a country of such wealth, this poor grasshopper is allowed to suffer so, while others have plenty.

The Labour Party, Greenpeace, Animal Rights and The Grasshopper Council of GB demonstrate in front of the squirrel's house.

The BBC, interrupting a cultural festival special from Notting Hill with breaking news, broadcasts a multi cultural choir singing "We Shall Overcome".

Ken Livingstone [far-Left mayor of London] rants in an interview with Trevor McDonald that the squirrel got rich off the backs of grasshoppers, and calls for an immediate tax hike on the squirrel to make him pay his "fair share" and increases the charge for squirrels to enter inner London.

In response to pressure from the media, the Government drafts the Economic Equity and Grasshopper Anti Discrimination Act, retroactive to the beginning of the summer.

The squirrel's taxes are reassessed.

He is taken to court and fined for failing to hire grasshoppers as builders for the work he was doing on his home and an additional fine for contempt when he told the court the grasshopper did not want to work.

The grasshopper is provided with a council house, financial aid to furnish it and an account with a local taxi firm to ensure he can be socially mobile.

The squirrel's food is seized and re distributed to the more needy members of society, in this case the grasshopper.

Without enough money to buy more food, to pay the fine and his newly imposed retroactive taxes, the squirrel has to downsize and start building a new home.

The local authority takes over his old home and utilises it as a temporary home for asylum seeking cats who had hijacked a plane to get to Britain as they had to share their country of origin with mice.

On arrival they tried to blow up the airport because of Britain's apparent love of dogs.

The cats had been arrested for the international offence of hijacking and attempted bombing but were immediately released because the police fed them pilchards instead of salmon whilst in custody.

Initial moves to then return them to their own country were abandoned because it was feared they would face death by the mice.

The cats devise and start a scam to obtain money from people's credit cards.

A Panorama special shows the grasshopper finishing up the last of the squirrel's food, though spring is still months away, while the council house he is in, crumbles around him because he hasn't bothered to maintain the house.

He is shown to be taking drugs. Inadequate government funding is blamed for the grasshopper's drug 'illness'.

The cats seek recompense in the British courts for their treatment since arrival in UK.

The grasshopper gets arrested for stabbing an old dog during a burglary to get money for his drugs habit. He is imprisoned but released immediately because he has been in custody for a few weeks.

He is placed in the care of the probation service to monitor and supervise him. Within a few weeks he has killed a guinea pig in a botched robbery.

A commission of enquiry, that will eventually cost 10,000,000 pounds and state the obvious, is set up.

Additional money is put into funding a drug rehabilitation scheme for grasshoppers and legal aid for lawyers representing asylum seekers is increased.

The asylum-seeking cats are praised by the government for enriching Britain's multicultural diversity and dogs are criticised by the government for failing to befriend the cats.

The grasshopper dies of a drug overdose. The usual sections of the press blame it on the obvious failure of government to address the root causes of despair arising from social inequity and his traumatic experience of prison.

They call for the resignation of a minister.

The cats are paid a million pounds each because their rights were infringed when the government failed to inform them there were mice in the United Kingdom.

The squirrel, the dogs and the victims of the hijacking, the bombing, the burglaries and robberies have to pay an additional percentage on their credit cards to cover losses, their taxes are increased to pay for law and order and they are told that they will have to work beyond 65 because of a shortfall in government funds.

The squirrel? He moved to Thailand!
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Your post would be really funny Coolhand..........except for the fact that it's true !!!!!!!.
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These are a few glimpses of the problems England is suffering. The problem, IMHO, doesn't just lie with the people who have done the crimes, But of the leaders who have royaly screwed the country up. This isn't a dig at Tony Blair (ok thats a lie it partially is), but of previous leaderships who has done nothing but make us a soft country. What England needs right now is a strong leader who is willing to bite the bullet and create and enforce laws making it easier to deport people such as the above and others like 'Captain Hook' etc.

IMHO i believe we bow to much to the EU, Human right and PC campaigners. Some people have to realise they are guests here and shouldn't expect treatment such as free handouts and houses, being able to stay on the doll permenant etc. Until this happens IMHO England will continue to suffer huge problems. Money that is being invested to keep a family from god knows where living here comfortably could be better spent in other industries such as health care. Nurses could be better paid.

Still i don't think that this will happen. This post was mainly direct at asylum seekers (Not all, some are genuine) but i could carry on about gang related crime etc but i think it would start to bore everyone.
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You are so right Coolhand ...and todays budget only goes to further endorse everything you have said........Now where did I put my suitcase.
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the main problem is the far left/loony left in the UK, (not much different from the far right apart from they are self hating white people) the squirrel/grasshopper thing was posted on another forum and the loony left screamed racism so hard it broke the server (not really) but the point is they don't care about people abusing the system
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I saw that the pilot who arrived at the aiport 6 times over the alcohol limit was acquited in court. He said that he was going to cry off sick. You don't turn up smelling of drink and wobbly on your feet to do that!
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REST OF THE WORLD VERSION:

The squirrel works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building and improving his house and laying up supplies for the winter.

The grasshopper thinks he's a fool, and laughs and dances and plays the summer away.

Come winter, the squirrel is warm and well fed.

The shivering grasshopper has no food or shelter, so he dies out in the cold.


THE U.K. VERSION:

The squirrel works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter.

The grasshopper thinks he's a fool, and laughs and dances and plays the summer away.

Come winter, the squirrel is warm and well fed.

A social worker finds the shivering grasshopper, calls a press conference and demands to know why the squirrel should be allowed to be warm and well fed while others less fortunate, like the grasshopper, are cold and starving.

The BBC shows up to provide live coverage of the shivering grasshopper; with cuts to a video of the squirrel in his comfortable warm home with a table laden with food.

The British press informs people that they should be ashamed that in a country of such wealth, this poor grasshopper is allowed to suffer so, while others have plenty.

The Labour Party, Greenpeace, Animal Rights and The Grasshopper Council of GB demonstrate in front of the squirrel's house.

The BBC, interrupting a cultural festival special from Notting Hill with breaking news, broadcasts a multi cultural choir singing "We Shall Overcome".

Ken Livingstone [far-Left mayor of London] rants in an interview with Trevor McDonald that the squirrel got rich off the backs of grasshoppers, and calls for an immediate tax hike on the squirrel to make him pay his "fair share" and increases the charge for squirrels to enter inner London.

In response to pressure from the media, the Government drafts the Economic Equity and Grasshopper Anti Discrimination Act, retroactive to the beginning of the summer.

The squirrel's taxes are reassessed.

He is taken to court and fined for failing to hire grasshoppers as builders for the work he was doing on his home and an additional fine for contempt when he told the court the grasshopper did not want to work.

The grasshopper is provided with a council house, financial aid to furnish it and an account with a local taxi firm to ensure he can be socially mobile.

The squirrel's food is seized and re distributed to the more needy members of society, in this case the grasshopp