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There are a number of reasons to smoke (only a few will say it taste good).
One is the addiction, which is mainly from nicotine.
Another is the partial asphyxiation caused by the carbon monoxide in the smoke. By a smoker it is described as relaxing. The CO in the smoke affixes itself to he hemoglobin in the red blood cell, which is designed to carry oxygen molecules to wherever it is needed in the body and carry back CO2 to the lungs to be exhaled. CO affixes it self to the hemoglobin 5 to 10 times stronger than O2 and essentially your body and brain is deprived of "energy" for a short while ... relaxing.
An average cigarette inhalation contains about 1000 PPM of CO, where about 4000 PPM is IDLH (Immediately Dangerous to Life & Health or deadly in 15 minutes).
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14-02-2008, 10:39
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I guess my addiction is due to being breast fed, until the age of 14.
I just sense the need to have something to nibble on.
Smoking ciggies is (IMO), preferable to an alternative that some of you homo's revert to!
Now, get off my back...and go find yourself a "non-smoking, homo hangout"! 
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Less oxygen to the brain and you feel like your are going to faint. Some where in between fainting and normal is a state of "forced relaxing".
As an ex-smoker I can testify that it truly is a feel good. I remember when the first smoking ban took place in the US on flights under 4 hours, I treasured the first deep inhale when I got off the plane ... very relaxing.
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I consider a smoker as someone that needs a ciggarete every minute of the day. I have life long friends from my home town in New York that have been smoking at least a pack a day since high school. That includes my sister and brother-in-law.
I've just returned from dinner with friends. I had a pint of Guiness and then some delicious Chinese food. After dinner we stood outside to chat and i smoked a miniature Partagas. It tasted great and gave me a little Euphoric buzz.
Smoking can be a crutch or just another simple pleasure like a piece of fine chocolate or a 17 yr old Scotch. 
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Recent Ex-Smoker
Very recent ex-smoker and very happy about it too!
I smoked for 33 years, from the age of 12 to 45...I quit in July, 2007. It has not been easy...the cravings were constant for the first month, then 5 to 10 strong cravings a day for the next 3 months, then 1 to 3 cravings a day for the next 2 months. It has only really been the last 3 weeks that I haven't had a craving every day. When I smoked, I was a heavy smoker....2 packs a day for the last ten years...my lungs were screwed...chronic bronchitis, coughing and gagging all day etc. My mother is dragging an oxygen bottle around at 64 and I certainly don't want to be there. I can already feel a huge difference in stamina and lung capacity(I was out of breath after climbing 1 flight of stairs before). I go on 10-20 Km. hikes now. I walked from Phuket City to Chalong 2 months ago and the Thais thought I was retarded.
When people say it is comparable to h*****I believe them. I was having fits of rage for the first few months while I was coming down off the nicotine and I had to work very hard to not yell at people for the least little things. It really is a terrible addiction...I think maybe I should have been locked up for the first couple of months.
Having said all that, the habit itself is very enjoyable. I found the after dinner cigarette to be the best of the day and the morning smoke with the first cup of coffee was very good too. The only reason I quit was that it was killing me and I was sure to be dead before 65 if I continued.
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Bill Hicks did some very funny smoking/non smoking sketche when he was alive (Died from pancreatic Cancer!)
YouTube - New Bill Hicks on Smoking Rare Unreleased
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Bill Hicks did some very funny smoking/non smoking sketche when he was alive (Died from ummm Lung Cancer!)
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Looks like your embedded link did not take ....
Try this .... YouTube - Bill Hicks - non smokers
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18-02-2008, 02:39
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Thanks Mr DK.. I was trying to work out how to get the youtube video box in the thread...
I have found the better sketch on non smoking by Bill Hicks... But all his work was genius.... Shame he died so early on....
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OK, so as you know by now, there is no longer any smoking in Bangkok bars, pubs, restaurants, whatever. As a non-smoker (former smoker, kind of, but never an anti-smoker) I don't particularly enjoy somebody else's smoke wafting over toward me. But in my experience anti-smokers are would be dictators who also want to ban what they think we shouldn't eat or see or hear, and if you give them political power, they will become real assholes. I hate fanatical anti-smokers more than I hate cigarette or cigar smoke. So, OK, to borrow part of a line from E.M. Forster, two cheers for non-smoking. But not three.
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Very recent ex-smoker and very happy about it too!
I smoked for 33 years, from the age of 12 to 45...I quit in July, 2007. It has not been easy...the cravings were constant for the first month, then 5 to 10 strong cravings a day for the next 3 months, then 1 to 3 cravings a day for the next 2 months. It has only really been the last 3 weeks that I haven't had a craving every day. When I smoked, I was a heavy smoker....2 packs a day for the last ten years...my lungs were screwed...chronic bronchitis, coughing and gagging all day etc. My mother is dragging an oxygen bottle around at 64 and I certainly don't want to be there. I can already feel a huge difference in stamina and lung capacity(I was out of breath after climbing 1 flight of stairs before). I go on 10-20 Km. hikes now. I walked from Phuket City to Chalong 2 months ago and the Thais thought I was retarded.
When people say it is comparable to h*****I believe them. I was having fits of rage for the first few months while I was coming down off the nicotine and I had to work very hard to not yell at people for the least little things. It really is a terrible addiction...I think maybe I should have been locked up for the first couple of months.
Having said all that, the habit itself is very enjoyable. I found the after dinner cigarette to be the best of the day and the morning smoke with the first cup of coffee was very good too. The only reason I quit was that it was killing me and I was sure to be dead before 65 if I continued.
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Did you do it 'cold-turkey'? Some 30 or so since I started and my old man died of lung cancer at 54. I should know better but that's how strong the addiction can be.
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18-02-2008, 10:15
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Did you do it 'cold-turkey'? Some 30 or so since I started and my old man died of lung cancer at 54. I should know better but that's how strong the addiction can be.
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Not exactly cold-turkey. I chewed nicorette gum for the first month or so. The first 2 weeks I chewed one whenever I wanted a cigarette. The second week I only chewed 3 times a day and slowly weaned myself off them until I was chewing 1 a day after dinner(it was a real treat too!). I still had hellish cravings and fits of rage after I stopped the nicorette gum. It's a bloody miracle I didn't smoke. When I stopped the nicorette gum, I started chewing sugarless gum in the same way and it really helped to chew the sugarless gum. Here I am 6 months later and I still carry sugarless gum wherever I go but I rarely chew it.
I tried Zaiban a couple years ago and couldn't sleep a wink while I was on the stuff and they didn't seem to reduce my cravings much. I used the patch a few years before that and found they were quite helpful but this time I didn't want to use them as I didn't want to be putting nicotine in my body 24 hours a day. This time I simply woke up one day and said to myself "You are gonna die too young if you keep smoking, do you wanna live or die?". I had about 6 cigarettes left and I smoked them until they were gone and then the fun began.
I'm sorry to hear about your dad. I think when he smoked there were no health warnings like there are today. I started smoking when I was 12 and I remember some adults chuckling like I was becoming a man. Now when I think back I'm horrified...going on drives in the family car with my mother chain smoking in the front seat...all the windows and doors closed in the house and my mom chain-smoking and us 3 kids breathing it in. A year ago we had a bit of a family reunion in Nova Scotia. My mother was there with her oxygen bottle(she needs it on constantly). My brother and sister and I all there smoking outside and I remember thinking "there is my mom at deaths door and I'm still puffing away like a madman!, what a twat I am".
I actually get angry when I see a young person smoking nowadays. When I was a kid everybody who was cool smoked and there were no health warnings but I really don't understand some teenager who knows how evil the ciggies are smoking in spite of them.
Perhaps I went on too much about this but I am well pleased with myself for getting off them right now.
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18-02-2008, 12:39
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L&M Red - 470 Baht for 200 as opposed to my usual Bensarns at 840 Baht for 200! Cut my weekly shopping bill in half!
Int smokin' Brilliant?
Cough!
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L&M Red - 470 Baht for 200 as opposed to my usual Bensarns at 840 Baht for 200! Cut my weekly shopping bill in half!
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Was just in Darwin, OZ and they were $15.00 AUD a pack. If I was still smoking 2 packs a day that'd be $900.00 a month!
Last time i was in Norway, their prices were insane. Anyone know what a pack of smokes goes for nowadays in Norway?
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18-02-2008, 13:14
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Was just in Darwin, OZ and they were $15.00 AUD a pack. If I was still smoking 2 packs a day that'd be $900.00 a month!
Last time i was in Norway, their prices were insane. Anyone know what a pack of smokes goes for nowadays in Norway?
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Hey, OZ is more expensive! 433 Baht for a pack in Darwin using Yahoo currency converter).
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18-02-2008, 14:53
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Cambodia: about 10 Baht for a 14 pack of L&M  No warning on the packs either, they are probably healthy 
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I started smoking at 13, had a heart attack at 46 (Doctors say it was from smoking but they tend to lie!!) and I am still smoking!!!!
I gave up for 3 months after the heart attack, then realised that it was a waste of time as I no longer had anything to lose!!! (doctors had to agree!!)
My biggest hate now is when young people come up to be asking for a sig. I tell them to F/ Off as I will not be a party to someone else going through what I did!!!
btw I always smoke outside ( in the open) so no-one gets it second hand either!!!
PS interesting to see that smokers and non-smokers are neck and neck in the poll, as they say(here in OZ) that only 25% of people smoke!!!
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I wonder why only 5% are ex-smokers? Does this mean that people who smoke generally smoke to the death? People who quit don't quit long term? hmmm...
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I wonder why only 5% are ex-smokers? Does this mean that people who smoke generally smoke to the death? People who quit don't quit long term? hmmm...
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funny, i was wondering about the same thing...
i guess that maybe some of the smokers already tried to stop... failed... and started to smoke again!
just hope i won't become one of them 
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funny, i was wondering about the same thing...
i guess that maybe some of the smokers already tried to stop... failed... and started to smoke again!
just hope i won't become one of them 
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Well...I don't want to be rude...but you look like you really need a cigarette.
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Well...I don't want to be rude...but you look like you really need a cigarette.
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I love it when the BG I am with smokes..................................Cough!
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