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Old 30-08-2005, 23:20
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i am in vancouver and i am shocked at how many homelss people there are. its a beautiful city, but there is tons of homeless people walking around. its funny, i live in NYC and we really dont have that many. i think vancouver is a pretty liberal area and they kinda let people do whatever, whereas nyc makes them leave certain areas. im never rude or mean, but they do get on my nerves, alaways opening doors at the stores, expecting money, pissing everywhere, walking up to cars trying to clean windows with dirty ass water. just wanted to know your thoughts and if your part of the world has this problem
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Do not get any in my small country town as they tend to head for London or other major cities in Uk, see a few in London but generally they are either sleeping in cardboard city or begging. Car window cleaners, money for my baby etc are usually eastern europeans, asylum seekers?? I would say we do not get a lot of it in the UK because our welfare benefits for overseans non-workers is quite liveable with a few extra cash jobs thrown in. But then that is my little experience, if I'm wrong, perhaps I don't go to those area's?? I see more in Thailand than England but because I never collect my change, I've never got anything smaller than 100bt note so feel bad when I cannot give them anything.
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except the junkies there are nearly no homeless people in my city.. It's always a shock when I go to a big french city, homeless people nearly every corner. It's true I was surprised at the few homeless you'll see in nyc, even in brooklyn or harlem.
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Marc,

I think you'll find most of the homeless in Vancouver are victims of drug addiction or mental illness also illegals.

The "hippie crowd" of Canada gathers in Vancouver because the climate is so much milder than other parts. Also this time of year alot of transient 16-25 yo travel through BC picking fruit or planting trees. They end up in Vancouver. Through in a free injection clinic, worlds best pot and marijuana bars....

I found Chicago much worse for beggers, they were very aggressive and very scary.

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Old 31-08-2005, 02:36
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yes, it definitely is a different kind of homeless in vancouver. alot younger. way more polite. i havent seen any marijuana bars?where?
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i havent seen any marijuana bars?where?

Not my kind of place, they're underground, it is still illegal!

Check out this link



http://www.bcpassport.com/cool.html#smoke
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my friends told me that they are very lenient with marijuana. which i guess they would be if they have a place people can go to shoot up their illegal heroin(that blows my mind). i saw five bums smoking weed on the street the other day
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my friends told me that they are very lenient with marijuana. which i guess they would be if they have a place people can go to shoot up their illegal heroin(that blows my mind). i saw five bums smoking weed on the street the other day

Very lenient!
By the way, BC bud trades pound for pound with cocaine in the US.
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they just filled in a tunnel that was going from canada to the states
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or was the tunnel going from the States to Canada
is there a river marking border ?
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No river. Went under a highway.

Canadian pot for US$.
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same as tunnels for drugs and illegal aliens from Mexico to US.ew
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Homeless people

Marc,

I used to kive in NYC back when the homeless people were just about everywhere, or so it seemed. In the parks, on the sidewalks, in the bus station, in Grand Central Station, in Penn Station, sleeping in doorways, etc. Most of them were either crazy or hopelessly alcoholic, or both. The city seemingly did nothing to help them.

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Please be kind to the homeless, I may soon be one of them.
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Very lenient!
By the way, BC bud trades pound for pound with cocaine in the US.

Dont believe it mate.. Cali or Florida prices on a kilo would kill the price of BC or Humbolts finest by a serious multiple..

Although I am slightly out of date I had also heard that the 'pot clubs' and medical scene in the US had effected trade weight pricing by a substantial bit.
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Sorry LL but it's true, loads of HA's in town and a couple of bodies this month to prove it.

I live in a small border town. Traffic through here is huge.

Google Creston BC or Nelson BC and you'll find our largest industry.

$2000usd per pound
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2k per pound my point entirely.. Let me give a brief rundown as I understand it..

BC bud wholesale price 6 - 8 grand per kg in US.. 5 grand would be very low and well in excess of 8 in places like DC or NYC.. Domestic US bud at about 3 - 5 grand per kilo.. I hear in BC its usually around 4k per KG..

Compare that to coke.. Wholesale price in Caribean (Aruba or the Dutch Antillies) in the 7 - 10 range.. I understand mexican price is about comparable but perhaps a touch higher.. US Mex border price is about 15 - 18k per kg and a wholesale normal price in the US is 28 - 30 grand per kg at the low end of the scale (Cali / Florida) going up higher.. Thats for mostly uncut wholesale.. Of course there can be as much as a 50% cut once it gets out of distribution mode and into sale mode 9this of course skews pricing considerably, its quite possible to get a 25k KG of 60% or so but I think the above is about right guidelines for clean unstepped on)..

So your telling me that people are swapping 4 - 6k product for +-30k product ??

Sorry but your not getting the truth.
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Thats way off topic and if mods wish to delete for any reason so be it..
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Wow, Now that's an informed post and I stand to be corrected.

Not my stock and trade, my info came from the annual RCMP golf tourney with the local RCMP, the US Border Patrol and Canada Customs. Every year they have a big golf tournament, I get invited because we built the new RCMP station as well as the Canadian Border Crossing.

Should know better than listen to the cops!
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sefton, when i 1st ead his post, i thought the same thing. i then thought maybe he was just talking about the actual volume distributed, no the prie, becasue it couldnt ever come close
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I do know that British mushrooms can be swapped weight for weight with quality hydro grown bud in holland.. Now considering that they grow 'wild' easily in parts of the UK and then that a few kg can be picked in a dedicated weekend that makes for some interesting economics ..

The awkward bit is that deal is in Amsterdam so the person has to pic them and then go through all the risks of journey to holland and back.. Of course theres not much customs check leaving UK to Holland !!!

And they said it was a miss spent youth !!!! whos laughing now fcukers !!
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You guys got me Googling

By Martin Kasindorf, USA TODAY
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CRIME FINDS HOME ON U.S.-CANADA BORDER

BLAINE, Wash. - With official attention in Washington riveted on the U.S.-Mexican border, crime along the USA’s undefended border with Canada is climbing to levels surpassing the rum-running days of Prohibition.

From the moose wallows of Maine to the raspberry fields of Washington state, border authorities are wrestling with these problems:

For 18 months, shipments of the $7,000-a-pound British Columbia marijuana known as "B.C. Bud" have been deluging the West Coast. The popular drug is so potent that dealers trade it pound for pound for cocaine, U.S. Border Patrol agents say. One means of transporting B.C. Bud: sea kayak.
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When was the article written..

7k a pound indicates 18k per KG price and coke well exceeds that in any state of the US that I have heard of.. Also thats the higest price for kg weed I have ever heard by a serious multiple and my info was USA weed prices were on the decline due as said to medical use and availablity..

Basically I simply doubt the authors facts (not you I hope you realize)..

Will go google hunting.
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From a growers site (they speak the truth / reality I would imagine ??) contradicting the DEA party line (where the above info I am sure comes from)

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Pot smugglers use B.C. as export hub

Billion-dollar industry: U.S. gangs net big profits from sales of 'B.C. Bud'
From The National Post
http://nationalpost.com
Jim Bronskill, Southam News
(MarijuanaNews note: The article also appeared in The Vancouver Sun http://vancouversun.com , and probably in a number of other Southam papers, which include some of the best in Canada.)

OTTAWA - Several U.S. marijuana-trafficking syndicates are smuggling high-quality British Columbia pot into the United States, where its potency draws a much higher price than domestic or Mexican marijuana, a new intelligence report reveals.
(MarijuanaNews note: "A new DEA report claims…" would be a better way of putting it.)

The U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) report says cannabis cultivation in British Columbia has become a billion-dollar industry that will encourage expansion of the marijuana trade in North America.

B.C. Bud -- as it is popularly known -- sells for up to US$4,400 per kilogram in Vancouver, as much as US$6,600 in the state of Washington and US$13,200 in California. In New York City, Canadian marijuana has sold for up to US$17,600 per kg.
(MarijuanaNews note: A kilo is 2.2 pounds. Notice the repeated use of "up to." The highest price is usually not typical. According to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police DRUG SITUATION in CANADA (1999)
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http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/html/drugs....htm#Marihuana
"the wholesale price of a kilo of [Canadian] marihuana ranges around $6,000 or $8,000 US."

I was told recently that the price of Canadian marijuana in Washington, DC, has fallen to less than US$2,500 per pound, to around US$5,000 per kilo. Perhaps the DEA is paying too much. Government agencies are so wasteful!)

http://www.marijuananews.com/news.php3?sid=444
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Basically I simply doubt the authors facts (not you I hope you realize)..



Don't know why I'm defending a position I know sh!t about.

Just see our little town of 2000 crawling with HA and bodies popping up. Must be some reason for it.

Can't hire labourers 'cause they make more money growing pot.

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