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Old 30-12-2005, 18:10
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here is a short ermail from Valentin. Maybe he is looking for a gay boyfriend ?
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Dear Friends,

Please excuse me for any inconvience caused by this message.

My name is Valentin. I'm student and live with my mother in small city in Russia. My mother is invalide. She cannot see and she receive pension from the government very rare which is not enough even for medications.

I work very hard every day to be able to buy the necessities and medications for my mother, but my salary is very small, because my studies still not finished.

Due to the deep crisis, authorities stopped gas in our small district and we cannot heat our home anymore. I do not know what to do, because the weather is minus 11 degrees Celsius already and radio says it will be up to minus 25 during the next month. I'm very afraid that if the temperature will be lower than 0 degree in our sleeping room, we will not survive.

I applied to local Red Cross and they explained me that many people ask them for help every day and they cannot help to each family. They adviced me to search help from individuals.

Thanks to free Internet access in our college library, I found several addresses, including yours and I decided to appeal to you with a prayer in my heart for a small help. If you have any old used sleeping bag, warm blanket, clothes in size L and XL, portable heater, canned food, vitamins, water boiler, medicines against cold weather, any hygiene products, I will be very grateful you if you could send it to our home address:

Valentin Mikhailin,
Rileewa Ulica 6-45
Kaluga, 248030
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Old 30-12-2005, 18:31
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The very fact that he is not asking for money direct but actually items that are applicable makes me think that its liekly to be genuine..

I dont find this funny...
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Old 30-12-2005, 18:34
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In fact the more I think about it the more I dont think its funny at all.. Pretty poor taste making a joke of it..

I guess you recieved this via email ?? Please PM me the senders email address, I will see if I think its genuine and try to help.
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Old 30-12-2005, 19:43
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From my own experiences of living in Moscow for 3 months earlier this year, I saw that Russia, although seen as a "rapidly expanding" economy by most, is quite similar to Thailand in that there are signs of prosperity, but, the spoils are going to the elite few rather than being spread around to all. When sitting in the bar talking to the barman, I learned that a "typical" Russian hotel worker earns around $300-$400 a month. In this particular instance, it was a 4* hotel.

There are a hell of a lot of Russian people still living on a shoestring budget just like they were before the Iron Curtain came down and they are still subject to "bully boy" tactics from utility companies, as has been written in the email in question.

I'm no expert on Russian culture, but from what I know and saw, I too would suggest that this is a genuine plea for help.
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Old 30-12-2005, 20:08
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Yeah..

Its Christmas, someone is talking about freezing to death with an invalid mother, is not asking for money but actual helpful items and its posted ion the jokes section...

Maybe something like 200 bucks could really change this persons year.. Or at least make the worst of the problems bearable.. Thats a night out to many of us..

Maybe I am just in a funny mood but I think this is a pretty pathetic post to make a joke out of.. Especially over Christmas..
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Well I have found his email through searching online..

Will see if he responds..
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Valentin Mikhaylin appeal is FAKE

Claim: A student in Russia named Valentin Mikhaylin needs your financial assistance to heat his apartment, buy food, and provide medical care for his ailing mother.

Status: False.

Origins: Valentin
Mikhaylin, a young man who lives in Kaluga, Russia, and who represents himself as a student starving and on the verge of freezing to death, has been spamhandling on the Internet since 1998. the story goes on........

for details check http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/scams/valentin.asp
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sorry i destroyed the mail already, as I got many of them.

But I can give you still some email-adresses of poor ladies in Nigeria, who want to share their million dollar bank account with you.
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I have actually exchanged 2 emails already but what set my alert off was thet he responded far too quickly for someone using a public computer..

I worked on the headers but only got as far as a russian ISP and could not tell if it was in any way library etc..

Asking for tangible goods and nigerian 419 scams are not really in the same league tho is is..

Anyone looked at 419eater.com..
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I tend to visit http://www.hoax-slayer.com/ regularly, but there doesn't seem to be any reference to this Russian mail being a hoax. I will give 419eater a view later.

With regards to tracking ISP's, would this site be any use if you don't already know about it ? http://arul.telenet-systems.com/track.html

One thing I've noticed recently on a few of my emails accounts, is a message coming to me from various postmasters titled "MAILER DAEMON - message not delivered" and the mail appears to be from a genuine site, but in the email that has been "bounced" is the email address of the sender, just siting there begging to be clicked !!

I don't know enough about this type of thing, so I have just assumed that someone is pretending to use my email address to send dodgy mails that will get "bounced" so that I will be silly enough to click on the links inside the mail originally sent, which is inside the MAILER DAEMON mail.

Confused ? That makes two !!
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Diz,
just check google, sometimes it is so easy
"No need to call an exorcist if you get an email from the Mailer-Daemon; this is just a message from the email server itself. Usually you only hear from the email server when it has trouble delivering an email you sent.

A daemon is a program that works behind the scenes on a server, doing useful things.

Check out the Webopedia definition of daemon."
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Diz,
just check google, sometimes it is so easy
"No need to call an exorcist if you get an email from the Mailer-Daemon; this is just a message from the email server itself. Usually you only hear from the email server when it has trouble delivering an email you sent.

A daemon is a program that works behind the scenes on a server, doing useful things.

Check out the Webopedia definition of daemon."
Thanks Captain, but that's the part I already knew. What i don't get, is how someone can send a message that uses my email address, hence I get the reply and not the sender. Obviously, there is something going on here, because the original sender obviously wants either...

a). the intended recipient to receive a suspicious email supposedly from me

or

b). has made up an address so that the daemon will automatically "bounce" the message, but instead of going back to the original sender, it comes to me.

I am very careful when it comes to things like this and I don't take any chances, better safe than sorry. Also, why would anyone pretend to send email from my address if it was just a joke ? The text of the email sent, is just rubbish and says nothing in particular, but there are links inside the address. Thus leading me to believe that those links are possibly viruses.
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Thanks Captain, but that's the part I already knew. What i don't get, is how someone can send a message that uses my email address, hence I get the reply and not the sender. Obviously, there is something going on here, because the original sender obviously wants either...

a). the intended recipient to receive a suspicious email supposedly from me

or

b). has made up an address so that the daemon will automatically "bounce" the message, but instead of going back to the original sender, it comes to me.

I am very careful when it comes to things like this and I don't take any chances, better safe than sorry. Also, why would anyone pretend to send email from my address if it was just a joke ? The text of the email sent, is just rubbish and says nothing in particular, but there are links inside the address. Thus leading me to believe that those links are possibly viruses.

I get those Mailer Daemon undeliverable mail messages quite regularly, altho not as much as I used to, whne I got them almost every day. I just look at who the massage was sent to, and can see that I didn't send that person a message. They obviously want a person who is curious or who sends out tons of email, too many to keep track of each address(I've got friends like that who send stuff to everyone in their address book), to open the link.

As you say, they are begging you to open the attachment or click the link. Therefore, it has to be a virus, IMHO. I have never opened one of them. If I get an email with an attachment and don't know for sure who sent it, when and why, then it gets immediately erased without wasting time thinking about it.
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Thanks Captain, but that's the part I already knew. What i don't get, is how someone can send a message that uses my email address, hence I get the reply and not the sender. Obviously, there is something going on here, because the original sender obviously wants either...
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Your computer could have sent the message without your knowledge. If somehow you have picked up a virus, is may have "hijacked" your address book, or a list of places that you have been, and send out copies of it'self. I had a friend who kept sending me the same email over and over and over, they had gotten a bug that kept sending out e-mails. So if you are getting back e-mails that have you as the sender it could very well be you, you just don't know it.

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Well done LF, was just getting to the end to say that..

When a machine has become a zombie in a DDoS attack or a SPAM situtation or other viral attack it is often sending out mails without your knowledge or input.. That way when the mail bounces it IS you sending messages but rather the infection on the machine...

Check for virus, trojans, spyware etc al..
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I am pretty sure those mails were not coming from my machine as I checked several mails by looking in their Full Header and they pointed to an IP address in the States. Each time it was the same address. Unfortunately, I have deleted them all now, but if I get any more I will post the IP address and a couple of oither details, maybe someone else could then shed some more light.

I have 2 different virus checkers, plus Yahoo! Anti-Spy and Microsoft's Antispyware which I run regularly. I also run both viruscheckers in Safe Mode once a month just to be sure. Another reason why I don't think that the mails came from my machine.
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An example

I have received another of these emails and here's the script of mail...

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The following message contained restricted attachment(s) which have been
removed:

From : .dizbuster@dizbuster.com (remove leading 'dot')
To : .gfruud@ruudscovilmarsh.com (remove leading 'dot')
Subject : Bill
Message-ID:

Attachment(s) removed:
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bill1.pif

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This was sent to me by .postmaster@computerteam.com with the subject line of MDaemon Notification -- Attachment Removed

What gets me is, why computerteam.com is receiving a mail sent to an address @ruudscovilmarch.com but perhaps that's just my lack of knowledge here.

I did try to take out the hyperlinks in the above example, but the forum software keeps putting them back in !!

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What gets me is, why computerteam.com is receiving a mail sent to an address @ruudscovilmarch.com but perhaps that's just my lack of knowledge here.

Diz,

Both of them point to the same IP address 208.16.226.135. Heres the registration details for computerteam.com

Registrant:
Computer Team Inc.
1049 State Street
Bettendorf, IA 52722
US

Domain name: COMPUTERTEAM.COM

Administrative Contact:
Smith, Dave cory@computerteam.com
1049 State Street
Bettendorf, IA 52722
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+1.5633550426 Fax: +1.5633552937

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Reveal, William E. hostmaster@revealed.net
3800 23rd Ave
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Moline, IL 61265
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I am pretty sure those mails were not coming from my machine as I checked several mails by looking in their Full Header and they pointed to an IP address in the States. Each time it was the same address. Unfortunately, I have deleted them all now, but if I get any more I will post the IP address and a couple of oither details, maybe someone else could then shed some more light.

Its quite a simple process for someone to send emails as though they are being sent from another account. Happens all the time.

In case folks arent aware, when you receive any spam emails, dont reply to them. Even it says click here to unsubscribe, dont do it. Just delete the email.
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Its quite a simple process for someone to send emails as though they are being sent from another account. Happens all the time...
So, does this mean that it looks like myself and computerteam.com are the innocent parties here, or does it mean that this has been done by computerteam.com ?
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So, does this mean that it looks like myself and computerteam.com are the innocent parties here, or does it mean that this has been done by computerteam.com ?

I used to get loads of these Diz, and came to the conclusion that my e-mail address had been harvested from the website and used to send viruses in attachments.

I got one once from someone@ladyboylovers.com in response to an article I had written (guess which one?) and no such website exists, and dozens more like it.

It could be that a virus was sent as an attachment with your e-mail address to computerteam.com, and their anti-virus software ate the attachment and returned the mail to the sender, which on the face of it was you. So you are both victims really.
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So, does this mean that it looks like myself and computerteam.com are the innocent parties here, or does it mean that this has been done by computerteam.com ?

computerteam.com is more then likely as you say, innocent as well. If they were really what their name says, they could sort this out themselves.
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