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21-08-2005, 19:13
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MTB Webcam
I got a lot of complaints lately so I need to buy a new one to replace the old one.
Just wanted to know if there is some alternative to Axis network cameras I have been using in the past? I know atleast D-Link have their range of network cameras, but I dont know how good they are. I would be happy to find a camera that last longer... 
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22-08-2005, 01:24
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Picture quality
No offense, Nicke, but the picture quality of what you have now is awful. Or maybe that's the way you want it? Or is it just out of focus? It seems like there ought to be something out there for not much money that works better.
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22-08-2005, 02:44
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I am aware of it, thats why I have to buy a new one. Axis has perfect quality but after 6-12 months the quality degrades a lot.
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22-08-2005, 02:49
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Why?
I wonder why the quality would degrade over time? Maybe the lens gets covered with dust?
Have you ever thought of using an old camcorder? One time my brother and I were trying to set up a video conference. I used a webcam and he used a video camcorder. My pictures looked terrible, his were great. Rex
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22-08-2005, 02:52
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I am sure a camcorder have better quality but I need a network cam since I dont have a computer in the bar. My own guess is that the humidity cause the degradation. Cleaning helps but it get worse after a while anyway and no cleaning helps in the long run.
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22-08-2005, 03:11
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Hi Nicke!
Just a idea I've got! IF it's the humidity, why not talk to one of the diving companys in Patong and try to get one of thier waterproof cameracases! They also fill them with some stuff (bags?) to get rid of the humidity! If You invest in a god (=expensive) camera. it can be worth to protect it! /Sunem
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22-08-2005, 06:23
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Thought of the same thing myself! But I was thinking that a 'home made box' would do the trick. Aslong as its mostly se\led, it would stop the lens steaming up, it would work fine. But then im no internet camera expert 
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22-08-2005, 13:39
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22-08-2005, 13:47
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Exelent thought man!! However instead of buying some perhaps expensive box I think a simple glass box or plexi box could do the trick and I could bring with me "desicator stones" from the lab... And all there is to do is to change it once a month and dry (high temperature) it. I think it would be much cheaper... Let me know and I think 300 grams or so would be more than enough.
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22-08-2005, 13:55
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Diving cases v. expensive (usually waterproof to 20-100m so not necessary unless your expecting another tsunami soon).
Many sweets come in perspex boxes (ferrero roche?) that you could use. Or knock up a wooden box with a piece of good quality glass to slide in on one side. Diving shops could provide sealant for the holes where the cables come out. You just then need some packets of silica gel or even looses gel. Laboratory silica gel changes colour when hydrated - change it every few weeks (or even months if you do a real job on sealing the box) when it's mostly hydrated; stick it in the oven for a hour or so and it dries out for re-use. If you come across, or some BM donates, an old PC/laptop, just about any digital camera can be used as web cam, just need USB drivers for PC_Camera mode - I downloaded some for my Fujifilm the other day - better quality than the webcam that came with the webcam software. Just some thoughts, K.
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22-08-2005, 14:30
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I dont think wood would (damn that looks odd) keep out moisture, probably soak it up..
Glass / plexi glass / platic / window stuff, etc could be easily hot glue gunned togetherfo a water proofish housing (masic the cable entries).. I have some optical float glass in the house (edmunds scientific) that was used with a projector hushbox I no longer use, that would be ideal for the viewing side.. Even a bag of salt changed regularly inside would do a lot to soak up moisture..
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22-08-2005, 18:33
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Webcams are so ****ing cheap nowadays, that a new webcam a year should be a possible investment, when you think about it....Or think about all the bell ringings
 **** getting a box, just get a new webcam.... 
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22-08-2005, 18:58
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IP addressable network cams are not the same beasts.. He has a network connection in the bar but no comp..
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22-08-2005, 21:52
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they will start somewhere between 3500 baht (wired) to 7000 baht for wireless
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22-08-2005, 22:22
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Hi Nicke,
I actually saw a show about great white sharks where the scientist used a water cooler(very large thermos) to waterproof his camera. Put a plexiglass window in the bottom, and screwed down the top and away he went. www.ewa-marine.com This company sells heavy duty, waterproof bag type enclosures for cameras, maybe this would work. You would probably have to put an extra hole in it for the video lead but this could be a low cost alternative for you to protect your webcam. Camera screws into a lensplate so that you get good image and is protected by the bag.
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23-08-2005, 02:39
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Just think about it safeass your sitting in mtb with a b/g and suddenly nicke comes up to you with a message from a bm back home asking what the fu-- you doing with my girlfriend mate i am coming in 3 days time and your face is noted 555555555555555
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23-08-2005, 02:48
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Not much chance of that happening Talbotman SafeAss will most likely have a LB in tow 
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23-08-2005, 03:24
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Look closer SafeAss  Can you see the letters KY
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30-08-2005, 00:50
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Sony, but it is expensive.
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I worked for Alcatel about 10 years ago in their corporate research center for interactive multimedia phones. We took the time to compare a lot of technical details such as frame rate, CCD behavior, zooming, etc. between a lot of manufacturers. The CCD is the part that makes or breaks the quality. The SONY cameras had a big edge with the quality of the pictures... Our analysis was based on the JPEG files from the cameras compared to scanned results from a set of test images for calibrating scanners. The variance in the DCT variables (the main parameters of a JPEG image) between the camera and the scanner were used as the metric. I found two cameras that might be a solution, but boy are they pricey: $1,250 for the SNC-Z20N fixed camera with Zoom and $1,350 for the SNC-RZ30N Tilt/Pan/Zoom. These cameras are network based, can support 50 simultaneous users with 4 levels of control: 1) View only 2) Zoom and capture 3) Security based functions 4) Manage SONY also offers a pressurized dome that should stop the humidity from degrading the lifetime of the camera. What is your budget Nicke? Any BM's out there willing to contribute? I will pledge $100
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30-08-2005, 03:36
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I use Axis cameras but the CCD is based on Sony as I am aware of.
I actually ordered a new one today, about 20,000 baht. I do have a waterproof box with inbuilt fan but I never found a good location in the bar to mount it. It is big. (The same camera house is used at BKK airport) I may or may not use the housing, I will see what I do when the camera arrive. Quote:
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30-08-2005, 14:06
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