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15-09-2005, 15:34
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I get tired of the boose sometimes, but then I just have a coupple of days off and its as fun as it used to again. Ive been here more or less for 1 year now and I have to say I love it more now than when I was here on holiday.
The drinking might be a problem one day, but I guess I live one day at the time and deal with problems when they show up. Geir 
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15-09-2005, 16:41
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OK then.. Hunter S Thompson...
opps..
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15-09-2005, 21:16
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ok gotta ask y is that every1 things when it comes to running/owning a bar it easy and profitable
never ceases to amaze me how many think this after running bars in asia for the past 7 years and 4years previous in the uk i can tell you its far from easy and even more difficult if ur a small operater with no or little expearience in the trade u want to own a bar phuket or elsewhere u need the proper training and even then remember these girls are good they know what there doing they know every trick in the book and u gotta be a step ahead good luck to any1 that does it of course
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15-09-2005, 21:21
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Where, on this whole thread, does anybody suggest that running bars is easy?
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15-09-2005, 21:25
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And also its not like its brain surgery either (training and experience etc).. what it takes is personality and a circle of people that want to spend time with you (and a liver strong enough to stand that time)..
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15-09-2005, 21:46
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Also, Trevor, what makes you think that you are the only person here with any experience in the field?
Not that I want to get into a 'mines-bigger-than-yours' discussion, but I have had 20 years in the licensed trade in the UK and a little in Australia. There are a hell of a lot of experienced bar owners on the board too. I hear what you are saying, but you might say it a little differently...
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15-09-2005, 21:52
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Thats one of the reasons we are getting out. Too much abuse of the organ in question in earlier life.
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Last Friday my entire concrete crew quit en mass. Five days before final inspection and turn over of a 30 million dollar project. I flew down to site and for 50 hours straight placed over 300 m^3 of concrete. I'm 36 years old, my back is shot and I've got caustic burns from my knees to my ankles. Give me a bar in LOS and my liver can look after itself!!!
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16-09-2005, 04:32
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Has trevor left the building or would he care to enlighten us further?
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29-10-2005, 16:49
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I agree about not living in the party zone, I am moving over to Phuket in November and home will be Phuket Town, but my playground will be Patong.
I have left my home in the UK rented and set up a boat rental business on one of the islands, am trying the life for 6 months through the main season. At least I will get a sun tan eh!
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29-10-2005, 16:57
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BTW.WELCOME TO THE BOARD... IJ
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29-10-2005, 18:17
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one day i hope to see my days out in LOS ,but when that day comes i have no intention of being a bar owner.i like sitting the other side of the bar.
my own plan is stay in the uk untill i can afford to take full advantage of the company pension and hope fully the few investments i have , then it will be a case of sell up and move,not to Patong may be not even phuket,but to some where small and simple .after all Patong is only a short distance from anywhere in los with the cheap flights. i think it has to be kept in respective as by the time of life i want to be living there will i really want to be chasing young girls around from bar to bar like a tourist. i doubt it,i think its learn to play golf and see my days out with no aches or pains and no british winters . but all this is a long way of so nothing is set in stone is it.
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BARWORK IS VERY HARD AND CAN BE UNFORGIVING ON THE BODY......... WHAT GRAHAM IS DOING WOULD BE MY IDEAL LIFE.........NICE AND QUIET AND LIVE THE SIMPLE LIFE..JUST MAKIE SOME BAHT TO TIK OVER !!! IJ
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Why not try the 6/6 thing and see how it goes? At least then you have`nt burned your bridges.
I have a query, do farang bar owners ever get invited to donate to the mib`s tea money fund, or are offered the services of local `protection` for a regular fee? 
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30-10-2005, 06:18
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 "Need to know" and all that!  
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Normally a farang owner would not deal with such issues and wouldlet a Thai staff member deal with it. Never draw attention to yourself.
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30-10-2005, 10:52
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Though the contribution is sort of expected but comes with benefits..
Lets say that the closing time is 2 am.. So the MiB have a christmas fund that each bar drop a couple hundred baht in and as much as they are able to close then moves to 3 or 4.. So for the cost of a couple hundred baht the bar can keep customers for a couple of hours.. worth it.. If you are 100% legal and dont bend or break any laws I have never heard of a forced payment issue but it seems like a soft arrangement of mutual back scratching.. Knowing and maintaining a friendship with some local boys in brown seems to me a good idea and definately worth the odd free drinks, sitting and being sociable, etc etc.. When you have a few in your phone book any problems (drunk customer having a bar fight etc) they are there in seconds.. If you just had to call the police in general I imagine thier response time is not exactly hot. Of course if your an agogo doing shows or have other activities on site that you need them to look the other way for I imagine that the contribution might rise pretty fast.. Also I am guessing that there would be a strong Thai / Farang price in operation. I would think that in the beer sois this is much less of an issue (or a total non issue) than say a bar thats a bit more isolated, where they might like to drop in while on duty and grab a drink etc.. The only bars where I have socially met MiB are Tams, Pauls Cat Bar 4 back on Nanai, Offshore bar, etc.. Of course all of this above is second hand info as I do not and have not ever ran a bar here.
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30-10-2005, 11:01
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Over the years there have been numeorus requests for payment from the mib for various things. The last global (as in all of Bangla) was to collect an amount from all soi's to stay open later. This lasted a few months, before bars starting pulling out of the payment scheme, as the stated benefits just werent consistantly delivered.
Then there are the, shall I say compulsory, payments made by all agogo's every month. These are considerable amounts. Then there are the, present a staff member from every bar to xxxx station, and then it will cost you, lets say, B200 to get them back. How many bars in Bangla and sois, a nice tidy amount raised there. Then there are the, I suggest that you buy x number of tickets to this fight tournament. As you can see, there are lots of different ways that this "tea money" is raised.
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Opening a bar is very risky especially for someone without experiences. I'm in the USA and my MUST list before retiring in Thailand or Vietnam 1. Own at atleast 3 homes in the Calfornia ( 1 to live in, 2nd and 3rd rent to tenants ) occassionaly find homes to buy and flip quickly for profits. 2. Save at least 500k cold cash 3. Continue in trading in the Forex market / invest some in stocks ( carefully ) 4. Retirement pensions ------------------------------------------ Before retiring in Thailand, I must sell all of my properties in US Collecting retirement pensions and the Goal for me while living in Thailand would be purchasing at least 6 condos in the well know tourist location. Charging monthly rent to tenants at least $ 500 usd - 700 usd a month. With this goal plus my retirement pensions/ cash savings/ forex trading/stock I should be living comfortably in Thailand without worries.... Wish me luck...
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05-11-2005, 16:56
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Would you go nuts?
What would you do if you retired in Thailand?
I go every 3 months for a couple of weeks just to get a feel for the place. I have just come back from my last trip but, before that, I went in the middle of the monsoon season. The weather was wild as were the seas. I was bored shitless. I like to fish and surf but that was out of the question. You can go drinking every day I guess but I need a bit more stimulation than that. The best advice I have ever heard about retiring is to try a place for say 6 months without giving up your old life. I wonder how many ex-pats are stuck in Thailand wonder what the f*ck they are going to do with the rest of their lives. Steve
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Well you can always teach English. This is not as bad as it sounds as you can work with the corporate crowd. I know the pay is crap, but at least it gives you something to do. Alternatively you could own a small guesthouse or restaurant to keep yourself occupied. |
