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Old 01-04-2007, 04:57
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Farang=westerner?

I always thought farang meant foreigner and included all non Thais. But when I spoke to my friend who just got a new job at a restaurant and I asked her if it was Thai or farang restaurant she said “no no Arab restaurant!” Are Africans and Arabs not farangs? Pretty stupid question I guess but still I wonder… =)
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Old 01-04-2007, 05:10
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Farangs are westerners, not chinese or japanese or arabs, they have other words for them.
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Old 01-04-2007, 06:52
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Farangs are westerners, not chinese or japanese or arabs, they have other words for them.
Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
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Farang is probably closest to Caucasian..

Tho it gets pretty murkey when you ask about latin decnt.. italians normally yes, S Americans, depends on look I think..
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Farang is probably closest to Caucasian..

Tho it gets pretty murkey when you ask about latin decnt.. italians normally yes, S Americans, depends on look I think..



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Old 01-04-2007, 19:25
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Ah, thanks guys!
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Old 01-04-2007, 21:11
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The Wikipedia definition is very interesting "farangset" = francais. I always thought it was a sound-a-like "you farang" = "you are foreign" ! Thanks Danny.
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I think/hope I got the skinny on this today.... Farang is any non-Thai, that Thai people don't have another name for.. and this could be different for many. The girl I asked is a Thai with bleached blonde hair who speaks English very well. She, even get called a "farang" from time to time according to her in certain situations...
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i think that farang=white person
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Wikipedia to the rescue again!!
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Had a term for white in Hawaii as well...can't remember the spelling "Howlie" I had been called it many times, some good some bad depending upon what was said before it and tone.
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i usually eat farangs
(guava fruit)
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Farang for me in Thailand are a white people not from Asia, Africa.

Thank You for clearing this out for everyone, and especially for me.
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Farang for me in Thailand are a white people not from Asia, Africa.

What do you call other Asians? Especially the ones from Korea, Japan, China. You know, the East Asians, not the south Asians like yourself.
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And (I always confuse this myself) are latin people farang ??

Italians are farang.. Spanish are farang.. So Cuban, Brazillian, etc etc.. I realize its ethnicity rather than nationality but many ethnically latins are as pale as southern Europeans.

This one is always a bit puzzling.
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What do you call other Asians? Especially the ones from Korea, Japan, China. You know, the East Asians, not the south Asians like yourself.

Other Asians are normally referred to by their nationality.

koreans = kow lee
japanese = yippoon
chinese = jeen
vietnamese = vietnam
burmese = pa mar
etc. etc.

Indians and sometimes Arabs are referred to as "kaek"

p.s. Thais are not South Asians, rather Southeast Asians.
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always thought that "falang" was a Thai b@stardisation of the english word foreign...say both words quickly with athai accent....any truth in this????

I know it has taken on a whole new meaning since.....as Thais have honed it down to their own meaning.....but that was my understanding of the root of the word????
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I get called farang

I get called it quite a lot or people will say "He's a farang from England just like you" but............I'm not white!
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One of the possible histories is farang is based on falangset for francais.. The earliest prominent visitors and trading with the kingdom was french..

I also read somewhere that one Frenchman was made very close to the king and court and sold them out to someone (Burmese) and this may have fed into the waryness and mistrust of foreigners..

However I think as you said its do with the Persian word for foreign (ferangi AKA Star trek ??) thats evolved.
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i think the farangset explanation is the one that you hear most often, but if you look at the links at the bottom of the Wikipedia page there is a link to a page that points to many similarities in other languages, such as "barang" in Khmer, "farenghi" in Hindi, "afrangi" in Arabic etc. Surely not a coincidence?

the link is The Thai word "Farang", its variations in other languages, and its Arabic origin | The Baheyeldin Dynasty
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Other Asians are normally referred to by their nationality.

koreans = kow lee
japanese = yippoon
chinese = jeen
vietnamese = vietnam
burmese = pa mar
etc. etc.

Indians and sometimes Arabs are referred to as "kaek"

p.s. Thais are not South Asians, rather Southeast Asians.

Ok thanks. Yeah, I forgot to mention them as Southeast Asians.
Then what about Africans and black Americans? Just black farang?
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Yes farang dam is commonly used.. Or 'chocolate man'..
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Yes farang dam is commonly used.. Or 'chocolate man'..

Yeah.......I get that loads "You.......chocolate!" or ( arm held next to mine) "same.....same me!"
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I met a guy (caucasian ) from South Africa during my trip in December/January. He told me that he had problems with the Thai customs. They saw his passport and asked him where he was from. He answered South Africa. Customs answered: but, but, but Your not chocolate man?..... I love Thailand.

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I met a guy (caucasian ) from South Africa during my trip in December/January. He told me that he had problems with the Thai customs. They saw his passport and asked him where he was from. He answered South Africa. The answered: but, but, but Your not chocolate man?..... I love Thailand.

5555 I don't really get that in Thaialand actually but get it loads in Philippines.

"You are from England? Why you black? Are you sure you from there?"

If I'm in a jovial mood I'll say " Actually I'm not sure, now you mention it!"
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5555 I don't really get that in Thaialand actually but get it loads in Philippines.

"You are from England? Why you black? Are you sure you from there?"

If I'm in a jovial mood I'll say " Actually I'm not sure, now you mention it!"

Probably the reasons are that most blacks that travel to Philippines either comes from Africa or the US. If your familiar with Philippines, basketball is the #1 sports and its imports(non-pinoy players) comes mostly from the US, the majority of which are blacks.
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