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05-06-2007, 18:20
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Ok, here's my plan.
First 3 days in BKK Inn Dynasty Inn Grande. 1st night without GF then rest of the time with. Rest of the time in Phuket. 6 nights in banthai, Patong, 3 night Kata thani and 6 nights Marina Phuket, karon. First stop in Patng will be MTB  Plan to do some day trips while in patong - hire a car etc. Worth going to Phi Phi or Krabi in August.Reading the thread re Phuket being spoilt, am I spending too much time there. Should I got somewhere else for a few nights (not Samul tho)? Also, kata thani - too much of a family place to take my Thai GF there? From the above, you can probably see that I'm taking GF to some nice hotels etc. Will hopefully find out if she is as i think she is. Thx 
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05-06-2007, 20:43
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Taking her to those Hotels she will be SMITTEN! After that ,you are not a catch, you are The Tokyo Fish Markets, unless you smell like them! (Thais hate a bad smell, "Maen" they sneer.) What Im trying to say is , it may not be for the best that you set the bar too high...up to you but. If you check in with her as your partner, no worries. However , many employees of the best hotels are higher class Thais with degrees, believe it or not, and sometimes the girls get uncomfortable with the subtle smile and insencere wais from staff and really dont enjoy the luxury that much. Some dont care... HK is a different country, remember. You can always take an o/night or 2 trip to one of the islands if you think Phuket is overdone ( but compared to London or HK it aint). Kata ,you may find is downright quiet..
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05-06-2007, 23:14
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Yes, I did think about staying in the upmarket places but she's used to that with me anyway - stayed with me in HK in the Mandarin Oriental - she's already smitten
The thing is I just wanna have a good time with her and see how it progresses - and I'm not going to go for the cheaper places 'cos it's my holiday ultimately. If it works out with her fine, if not then at least I've had a good hol. Thinking of cutting kata thani and staying in patong longer and hiring a car and doing day trips. Is it worth going to Phi Phi in August?
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06-06-2007, 01:31
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Its always worth a trip to Phi Phi, but in August, the weather can sometimes be unsettled. Try to choose a day when you know it will be fine,(get an internet weather forecast for Phuket/Krabi) and you should have a great time.
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12-06-2007, 02:41
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Update.
Spoke to her at the w/e. She's just started working in a market - so doesn't sound like your typical BG Told her that I'm going to HK in a couple of weeks and she's welcome to join me. That made her happy. Even more when I told her I'm staying at the Ritz this time. She promised to take good care of me in return
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12-06-2007, 11:31
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oh dear Mombassa....you haven't heard a thing have you I suggest you go back to the start of this thread and read it all again.....have you missed the part about P4P and you staying in expensive Hotels....."you are a marked man" buddy.....were from the very start
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13-06-2007, 12:52
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oh dear Mombassa....you haven't heard a thing have you
I suggest you go back to the start of this thread and read it all again.....have you missed the part about P4P and you staying in expensive Hotels....."you are a marked man" buddy.....were from the very start[/quote] i agree mate every bm is telling you something without trying to break your heart because it sounds like you've already fallen for this bird but in return you writing back how she is happy to stay with you in an expensive hotel and how she gona take care of you etc.. have a read through other bm stories oh actually have a read of the book "private dancer" it might open your eyes a bit.Dont get me wrong mate im not sayin she's a bad girl because i think tg's are beautiful with top personalities but it might change the way you think. good luck with whatever you do mate....
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13-06-2007, 18:56
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Hi Mombasa
I think you are starting to accept she was a BG. That is good. That was the past. We have to assume they were all BG's at some stage. I know there was no question of money when you met in HK, BUT you are now sending her money regularly so I suppose she has achieved her goal. Anyway she sounds great, look to the future, have a great two weeks with her and keep going to Lolita's. It can do no harm and I think it saves the likes of us from going totally head over heals, reality strikes and we realise they all really only want to get on with their job and make a living. have a great trip
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14-06-2007, 02:56
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Hi All,
I hear you all and am now formulating a plan. Will be in HK 10 days and have asked her to join me. Throught email, I have told her that she can stay with me throughout (well actually she asked if she could). Have also said that, apart from spending money, I will not be giving her P4P money and that I hope she is staying with me becuase she likes me. She's asked me whether I wanted another lady - seems quite surprised that I was asking her to stay with me all the time. I've said that I probably will want to try another BG for a night or two and that she is welcome to go with someone else when I'm too busy or with friends tobe with her 'cos i understand that she can earn a lot of money in HK. Let's see what happens in HK. If she really is a typicall BG then I will have learnt and my Thailand hols will be without her. If she's not then all well and good. Yes, I'll have a read of Private Dancer. Cheers
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14-06-2007, 12:58
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good on ya mate, i hope it works out for you and your girl or girls. just dont rush into things with thai girls, because they are so beautiful and their personalities are nowhere to be matched by any other ferang lady it is very easy to fall for them... anyway good luck mate!!!
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16-06-2007, 06:56
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i agree
sounds like you need to boom boom a little bit of bitterness out of you left over from your divorce before you try and ponder this new girl. I suggest you bust open your coccoon and butterfly like your a freakin Monarch! Sorry to hear all the turmoil btw. Fortunetly Gog created places like Phuket.
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16-06-2007, 14:42
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hallelujah praise the lord!!! hehe sorry mate it was just a good time to say it.. glad to hear it mate dont worry keep goin it gets better,
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16-06-2007, 18:11
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many many ladies out there and lots of time ahead of you.do not let your ****, steer you thru life.it is so damn easy to get layed.take a minute and ponder this,and i do not meen to pry but it was brought up in your post.your son seems to be a very big part of your life.i know how woman try and make you the biggest ass and loser.you may think he is already turned against you,but in reality you are his blood and it runs thru his veins.if money is no problem to you,maybe cancel your transfer to hk for work,or anywhere that is far from HIM.stay close by and try and patch things up.f--k his mom ,you have a right to be his dad.You will know in your heart that you tried.and never stopped.he will return to you someday ,if he knows that you never stopped trying.So if you stay close by,keep taking trips to los,...or anywhere you can.Do not settle down with another hole ,just concentrate on your boy.
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16-06-2007, 22:42
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good on ya mate very well said!! not one of us actually gave him that advise and i think its probably the best advise given on this thread!!
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17-06-2007, 04:01
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Thank you all - it is much appreciated.
Bassas, yes, my son is a huge part of my life. He is my heart and soul and I am heartbroken about how he now feels about me. Funny isn't it that b4 I was forced / blackmailed out of my home he loved me to bits and now it's the complete opposite !! Anyway, I've been into councelling (through my work) etc and my best option is to be away from him for a while so that the pressure is off him to behave as he is having to. He needs a Dad he can be proud off - the way he used to be. I am sure that when I'm in HK he will come and visit me. I can take him to the Shanghia Grand Prix, Great Barrier Reef, sailing - all those wonderfull things one can do in that part of the world. One day he will be tempted. It's a long, diffilcult story but, believe me, I have thought long and hard about moving to HK. My counceller said at the end of my sessions that I have moved on from my ex and am obviously a lot happier. I've got something to look fwd to and need to find some happiness. But, we both agreed, underneath it all, I will never be trully happy without my son. But at least I will be away from the ex and all her vindictiveness. Funny thing is, now that she knows I'm going, she's behaving a lot better. She didn't believe me at first but now it's really hit her. She's finding it difficult to accept that I have moved on and I don;t need her. But, she know how much she needs me. Suddenly she's being nice my son is being a bit better as well. Too late - I've moved on. If I were to change my mind it would be the same all story and I would bitterly regret not moving. Am going to print a copy of Private Dancer and read it on the flght to HK - I'll be fully prepared. BTW, money is good but far from being no object - I may be in Investment Banking and at the top of my profession but it's only IT, albeit Front Office. Long way from being a trader on the Exotics desk whom I work for Last edited by mombasa : 17-06-2007 at 04:11.
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17-06-2007, 04:48
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It sounds to me like you want to butterfly a bit. You should do whatever you want so there are no regrets. You may find that if you butterfly you only miss her more and change your plans to see her early, or you may find you start to change your mind about her and move on. Either way no regrets. And if you don't mind, how old is this girl?
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17-06-2007, 05:46
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Kids are important. It's about the love and about the blood connection that never breaks, even when you are separated by time and distance. But better to go away, rather than to let the ex use your son as a pawn in her game to hurt you. And better not to dwell on a bad situation. Your love for your son will always be there. You can write, send gifts when appropriate, and invite him to HK, then he will know that you are there for him. But you can't put all the cares and the life of a grown man on a small boy's shoulders. You have to go out there and get on with your life, experience life, experience women, and learn whether or not you need the real love of a real woman in your life. From the impression I get of you, the answer to that question will be yes, you do. It is always fun to play around a little bit, get some more experience, have some good laughs, and find out what is out there in the way of available women. But let's face it, some guys just do not have the butterfly gene, and in the end, will not be happy playing the field forever. It will get old before long, and they will be faced with the cold realization that , for them, there is just no substitute for the love of a good woman.
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17-06-2007, 18:10
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Jaybee - that's it in a nutshell - u've got me down to a tee
Yes, better to go away. I'm feeling fine about it and looking forward to it. However, as the day gets closer, I know that I will breakdown knowing that I will not be seeing my son for months. But, I can't change my mind - that way lies disaster. This is better for the long term. Bush, she's 28 years old. I would love to butterfly and I probably will try buy as Jaybee so astutely points out, I tend to be a one woman man  Cheers
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17-06-2007, 20:13
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Ok help me out here, I'm a little confused.
So taking the girl to expensive hotels etc, invited her to Hong Kong, and also talking about butterflying. This I do not understand. In some ways it sounds like you want to be involved with her on a GF level, but also something inside of you doesn't want to commit. My opinion which really hasn't changed is either go to Thailand alone and butterfly 'til your heart's content or make the effort to spend time with her. Why take a girl with you only to butterfly, it's like taking a beer into a brewery. If you are taking her with you then make the effort to spend time with her. She may turn out to be the right girl, she may not, but at the end of the day if you try and butterfly and she finds out it will hurt her, you and lets face it if this trip doesn't work out with her, then you can always go back.
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