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Old 03-03-2008, 07:09
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I agree with Marc, I dont see any difference between BGs or "normal girls". Normal girls is just more hassle to get rid of if it doesnt work out, everything else same in my experience.

Also while a westerner may see it as dating, the girl may think you are a boyfriend/girlfriend already, they may proceed way to fast sometimes and then you have trouble when you think she is not for you.

So for those who like to play around, avoid "normal girls" is a good advice.
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I agree with Marc, I dont see any difference between BGs or "normal girls". Normal girls is just more hassle to get rid of if it doesnt work out, everything else same in my experience.

Also while a westerner may see it as dating, the girl may think you are a boyfriend/girlfriend already, they may proceed way to fast sometimes and then you have trouble when you think she is not for you.

So for those who like to play around, avoid "normal girls" is a good advice.

well, i do think there is a whole world of educated thai girls with good educations, good jobs but for a farang to find them on holiday or on interent, more than likely, i think they are after the same thing as bg's

it becomes a different story for long term expats though. i think they can definitely find a "good girl" who has a honest agenda, for better lack of a phrase
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i then return home, hand in my notice at work, arrange to rent out my house(this will give me some pocket money),sell the car and anything else i wont be needing , i then return to songkhla to live with her


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well as you can immagine this is a momentous decession and i have not even met her

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my biggest concern is the visa situation


If you think through this again, is the visa situation still your biggest concern?



This forum should have a new section called
"My Buddha, stories too amazing to believe!" and this thread should definitely be in it.


Said that, after reading the forum for three years now I think I believe almost everything, nothing can surprise me anymore.


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although i do agree with you that there is a difference
in most cases, it seems, with "good girls" looking for men on the interent they seem to pretty much fall into the same category of bg's
they are all pretty much after the same thing, just happen to work a different job

I disagree
I think there must be SOME educated Thai women, that want to find a western man that hasnt been round the block with Bg's, somewhere around the same age, for decent conversation ans same interests. And where better to find someone a bit diffrent than the internet. Can't tar them all with the same brush you just have to air on the side of caution but that could apply anywhere any nationality.
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I think there must be SOME educated Thai women, that want to find a western man that hasnt been round the block with Bg's, somewhere around the same age, for decent conversation ans same interests. And where better to find someone a bit diffrent than the internet. Can't tar them all with the same brush you just have to air on the side of caution but that could apply anywhere any nationality.

sure, and the internet has become a huge dating place in No America but from the instances i have seen on this board and from friends experiences, every single time(not one exception) the end result was the same as hookin up with a bg long term
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hi kanya,
welcome to the board!

have you never wondered yourself about the fact that she's looking for a (farang) boyfriend online??
Hmm....


maybe you should watch the second part of "My Boyfriend, The Sex Tourist", just to see how the girls "are working"
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http://www.phuket-info.com/forums/ge...x-tourist.html
http://www.phuket-info.com/forums/ge...ends-sale.html
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well guys its another boreing start to the week here in the uk,i hope you all enjoyed your weekend,mine too short .
so many replies and so much food for thought,its almost imposible with my limited time to reply to individual posts,

what you guys are saying makes a lot of sense, unfortunatly im not able to come for a visit before my 3 weeks holiday with my girl, so its going to be a case of come and see and make my mind up,

the rtg, s ,,i will bear this in mind, although i know its going to be difficult and one hell of a shock, i know there is so much to think about and learn, and 3 weeks is really not enough,
i am prepared to take this big decission, because im at that stage of life when i realise a change is what i need,

lets for the moment assume,,, she is genuine,she has a good education,she has never been a bg, her english is very good, although some things do get lost in the translation, she is family orientated and has traditional thai values, and the intention is for me to live with her in songkhla,

i have already learned from her, that thai girls are very clingy, im already married to her,( in her mind), initially i tried to explain i cant make a firm dicission until i had met her,but she just could not understand this, however i tried to explain ,so i have stopped trying to explain ,

i will do some more reading on the board to some of the suggested threads

how difficult is it for a farang to addapt to the culture, how long will it take to pick up the launguage,
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You have been given a great deal of info from all these board members. There is very little to add. I think what they are saying is EXPERIENCE it all (the culture) before making any final decisions.

I would hope that you let us know how it goes which you do meet, etc., etc.
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well guys its another boreing start to the week here in the uk,i hope you all enjoyed your weekend,mine too short .
so many replies and so much food for thought,its almost imposible with my limited time to reply to individual posts,

what you guys are saying makes a lot of sense, unfortunatly im not able to come for a visit before my 3 weeks holiday with my girl, so its going to be a case of come and see and make my mind up,

the rtg, s ,,i will bear this in mind, although i know its going to be difficult and one hell of a shock, i know there is so much to think about and learn, and 3 weeks is really not enough,
i am prepared to take this big decission, because im at that stage of life when i realise a change is what i need,

lets for the moment assume,,, she is genuine,she has a good education,she has never been a bg, her english is very good, although some things do get lost in the translation, she is family orientated and has traditional thai values, and the intention is for me to live with her in songkhla,

i have already learned from her, that thai girls are very clingy, im already married to her,( in her mind), initially i tried to explain i cant make a firm dicission until i had met her,but she just could not understand this, however i tried to explain ,so i have stopped trying to explain ,

i will do some more reading on the board to some of the suggested threads

how difficult is it for a farang to addapt to the culture, how long will it take to pick up the launguage,

Well my friend in the end i would just go with your gut felling, you might get hurt but you never know, maybe is good maybe is bad as long as you dont lose everything in the deal,then you gain expirence but live to fight another day .
The culture not so bad the language yea not so easy, but bypass all the old non belivers and take a chance , At the end of the day just keep the money out of the country and use it when needed nothing lost except a bit of time if all goes all little pear shaped yea know .......
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If you are moving to Thailand, why go for a 48yr old who is basically past-it?

You should go a single man, meet many of the vast quantities of girls available to you as a single farang man there......and get one who's not going to be too old to take care of you in a few years.....you could easily aim for the 30-40yr old range.
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well guys its another boreing start to the week here in the uk,i hope you all enjoyed your weekend,mine too short .
so many replies and so much food for thought,its almost imposible with my limited time to reply to individual posts,

what you guys are saying makes a lot of sense, unfortunatly im not able to come for a visit before my 3 weeks holiday with my girl, so its going to be a case of come and see and make my mind up,

the rtg, s ,,i will bear this in mind, although i know its going to be difficult and one hell of a shock, i know there is so much to think about and learn, and 3 weeks is really not enough, i am prepared to take this big decission, because im at that stage of life when i realise a change is what i need,

lets for the moment assume,,, she is genuine,she has a good education,she has never been a bg, her english is very good, although some things do get lost in the translation, she is family orientated and has traditional thai values, and the intention is for me to live with her in songkhla,

i have already learned from her, that thai girls are very clingy, im already married to her,( in her mind), initially i tried to explain i cant make a firm dicission until i had met her,but she just could not understand this, however i tried to explain ,so i have stopped trying to explain ,

i will do some more reading on the board to some of the suggested threads

how difficult is it for a farang to addapt to the culture, how long will it take to pick up the launguage,

The 2 highlighted points really hit me.

1. You will learn a fair bit in 3 weeks, but remember you're on holiday so you won't really see the real her. I've been here a month now (well done Cybie for lasting this long LOL) Sorry... Anyway, When I was previously here last, I was with Jaun for 2 weeks. Before that I'd SMS her everyday and she'd reply. Then there was a 7 month gap from seeing her with just phone calls and texts. Now I've been out here a month, I've still not seen and learnt everything. Mate, don't rush that decision. You do, it could be a worse mistake for you later on.

2. How difficult is it to adapt? This is completely up to you. Some people can't. Some people very easily. Others it takes time. However as you have never been to Thailand, you really should spend real time out here before considering moving. Not considering moving before venturing out here. This is my 5th visit now and I am debating whether I want to settle here later on in life. This is to gather that information now for something I plan later. This is some advice a board member gave before. I am listening to it, rather than rushing into a stupid move. Also I have time on my side, another advantage.
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well guys its another boreing start to the week here in the uk,i hope you all enjoyed your weekend,mine too short .
so many replies and so much food for thought,its almost imposible with my limited time to reply to individual posts,

what you guys are saying makes a lot of sense, unfortunatly im not able to come for a visit before my 3 weeks holiday with my girl, so its going to be a case of come and see and make my mind up,

the rtg, s ,,i will bear this in mind, although i know its going to be difficult and one hell of a shock, i know there is so much to think about and learn, and 3 weeks is really not enough,
i am prepared to take this big decission, because im at that stage of life when i realise a change is what i need,

lets for the moment assume,,, she is genuine,she has a good education,she has never been a bg, her english is very good, although some things do get lost in the translation, she is family orientated and has traditional thai values, and the intention is for me to live with her in songkhla,

i have already learned from her, that thai girls are very clingy, im already married to her,( in her mind), initially i tried to explain i cant make a firm dicission until i had met her,but she just could not understand this, however i tried to explain ,so i have stopped trying to explain ,

i will do some more reading on the board to some of the suggested threads

how difficult is it for a farang to addapt to the culture, how long will it take to pick up the launguage,

Whether or not Thai girls are very clingy may or may not be true. What you seem to have learned is that SHE is clingy and the real question is: does that feel ok to you at this stage of your acquaintance?

I certainly can understand your desire for a new life. It is not unheard of for people our age. I think about Thailand every day but I am not ready to make the move.

I still find Thailand quite mysterious after only a couple of visits.

Have a great trip and good luck!
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why go for a 48 year old woman when i could go and find a 30 -40 year old ?, , only way i can answer this is , she / we seem to have clicked ,

do i mind the fact that she is clingy ?, i dont mind at all, and when i meet her im quite sure she will live up to and exceed my expectations ,

spending the 3 weeks with her is going to be a holiday/ new romance feeling , and trying to find out if i can cope with early retirement in a strange land with a different culture, only time will tell,

i keep thinking "what have i got to lose "? and if i keep most of my savings in the uk and just rent the house for a while , until im sure , all i would be giving up is my job, which i am finding quite boring .

on the other side , "what will i gain" ? a whole new experiance, a way of life i just might really like , a woman who will adore and look after me,

im quite sure i will like the climate, as i did spend some time in srilanka, so the heat and humidity wont be a problem, and i dont intend working ,i get a small pension next year, and in los it will go a lot further im sure,

visa concerns? well i dont like the idea of a visa run every few months, but if i can last until 50 possibly get a retirement visa, or who knows we may get married ,
one think would make it easier is meeting with others who have made the move on a regular basis , is anyone in the songkhla / hat yai area ?
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Is it so easy for a 48 year old to find a new job in the UK if it goes wrong in Thailand, or do you have enough money never to have to work again? Can understand guys just before starting a carreer but once past 40... I think in Belgium nobody wants you.
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why go for a 48 year old woman when i could go and find a 30 -40 year old ?, , only way i can answer this is , she / we seem to have clicked ,

do i mind the fact that she is clingy ?, i dont mind at all, and when i meet her im quite sure she will live up to and exceed my expectations ,

spending the 3 weeks with her is going to be a holiday/ new romance feeling , and trying to find out if i can cope with early retirement in a strange land with a different culture, only time will tell,
i keep thinking "what have i got to lose "? and if i keep most of my savings in the uk and just rent the house for a while , until im sure , all i would be giving up is my job, which i am finding quite boring .

on the other side , "what will i gain" ? a whole new experiance, a way of life i just might really like , a woman who will adore and look after me,

im quite sure i will like the climate, as i did spend some time in srilanka, so the heat and humidity wont be a problem, and i dont intend working ,i get a small pension next year, and in los it will go a lot further im sure,

visa concerns? well i dont like the idea of a visa run every few months, but if i can last until 50 possibly get a retirement visa, or who knows we may get married ,
one think would make it easier is meeting with others who have made the move on a regular basis , is anyone in the songkhla / hat yai area ?

By now, you're thinking that I'm a tosspot and quite frankly you'd be right. I'm not gonna say anything about having a serious think about it. Quite frankly your mind is made up so it is useless myself and anyone giving you advice. I would really read the paragraph I highlighted. Also, start looking at some other websites for a lot more information.

Also just remember a simple phrase with the words eggs and basket.

All I will say now is good luck. I hope it all works for you. Keep us updated aboiut what happens in April.
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Is it so easy for a 48 year old to find a new job in the UK if it goes wrong in Thailand, or do you have enough money never to have to work again? Can understand guys just before starting a carreer but once past 40... I think in Belgium nobody wants you.

This was a point I tried to make. However it fell on deaf ears. If he was my age, I'd say hell go and do it. At 27 you have everything in front off you. At 48, it will be a lot harder to rebuild. At least he has his house that he can rent, which will be some income.
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cybernator, thanks for your veiws, my mind is made up 95% , cant find a good reason not to go for it , or is that the rtg effect, and im at that age when i think life is passing me by, , yes i could stay in the comfort of a well paid boring job, but , life is for living,
i wont put all the eggs in one basket, and at least i have an escape route if its needed, getting work for my trade is always easy so no worries there ,

got another 4 weeks before i fly to bkk, but i will report back when i return at end of april , and if i can i will pop in to the mtb
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I'm thinking the same as LOSdelights #48.

Why not have some fun for a few years? It will certainly stop that 'life passing me by' feeling
Once you've done that then look around for your soul mate as you will be more experienced and choose wisely
Well that's the theory anyway.....
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On the money Zarf.

Mav - is there a market for double-decker or humpback RTGs as the webcam lens market is apparently gone.

Kanya - as someone who would be flattered by the offer of being a gigolo to a younger woman ( that's another clue for Frode) I can only endorse the BM's comments from those who have been there and done that.
Also - 1st maxim - try try try and compare before considering a rental/purchase.
Come to Patong earlier - meet the BMs, BGs and play the game 1st.

Then at least you'll know what you are missing.

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Good luck - at least you are asking questions and in the right place.
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im at that age when i think life is passing me by, , yes i could stay in the comfort of a well paid boring job, but , life is for living,

Here's some words of avice from Robin Sharma:

Science has shown that the human brain craves novelty:
We are at our happiest when we are growing and challenging ourselves. Don't resist change; embrace change. Be curious, love to learn. Be passionate, build relationships and put people first.

If you want to be happier as a human being, it pays to embrace change and run towards your resistances. The greatest risk is not taking risks.

It pays to visit the places that scare you. The place where your greatest fears live is also the place where you greatest growth lies.

When you are on your deathbed, what will fill your heart with the greatest regret will be:

All the risks you didn't take,
and all the fears you didn't face,
and all the opportunities you didn't seize,
and all the friendships you didn't make,
and all the sunrises you didn't watch,
and all the books you didn't read,
and all the travels you didn't take,
and all the things you did not do,
and all the love you have not given,
and the words you did not speak,
and the truth you did not tell.
Take risks, do the uncomfortable, run towards your resistances and embrace change.


Good luck Kanya, even if it doesn't work out, it's only considered a failure if you don't learn something from it.
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Here's some words of avice from Robin Sharma:

Science has shown that the human brain craves novelty:
We are at our happiest when we are growing and challenging ourselves. Don't resist change; embrace change. Be curious, love to learn. Be passionate, build relationships and put people first.

If you want to be happier as a human being, it pays to embrace change and run towards your resistances. The greatest risk is not taking risks.

It pays to visit the places that scare you. The place where your greatest fears live is also the place where you greatest growth lies.

When you are on your deathbed, what will fill your heart with the greatest regret will be:

All the risks you didn't take,
and all the fears you didn't face,
and all the opportunities you didn't seize,
and all the friendships you didn't make,
and all the sunrises you didn't watch,
and all the books you didn't read,
and all the travels you didn't take,
and all the things you did not do,
and all the love you have not given,
and the words you did not speak,
and the truth you did not tell.
Take risks, do the uncomfortable, run towards your resistances and embrace change.


Good luck Kanya, even if it doesn't work out, it's only considered a failure if you don't learn something from it.

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