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This story comes from real experience...

...small experience, but real!
I got a reprimand by the forum's sages cause I wrote on anoter thread a summary of what I read around on the internet that was not coming out from my real experience.
They suggested me to introduce 1st myself.

1st of all: Hello to everyone! I'm Italian, I went to Thailand this year for the 1st time in my life.

I simply want to share with you my small story!

I met Sirin in Koh Samui at the Green Mango.
Sirin is not really a BG (I mean she does not work in a bar where you have to pay to take her out), but she works anyway as a prostitute.
Obviuosly I liked her so much, but since she was asking for money I told her I was not interested, she allured me telling me she would come with me for no money because she like me too, so we staied together one night (no ****ing), but the next morning she started to beg me for money, because she got a daughter and she got a family and she needs to eat.
I gave her alms quite happily, since here in Italy I do not usually give too much alms.

The next day I asked her to go out, we staied together the all afternoon where she seemed to be happy and I certainly had some wonderful moments too, never felt in my life such feelings, infinite enchant!
But in other moments she brought me back to the rough reality: "give money to fix my cellphone" - "when you go baack to Italy would u send me money?", etc.

Therefore I decided, without telling her, to give up on everything, at the end actions speak louder then words, and with her actions: 'going on asking for money' she showed me she was simply practising her art (as prostitute) and she had no other interest in me!

The same night I see her again at the Green Mango, I did not go there on purpose to meet her, we (me and friend) went there cause we liked the place.
I saw her talking with a French bloke who offered her and her friends champagne (Thai brand probably)
I go closer to her only to talk a bit and to say good-bye to her, she tells me that the French offered her 2000 bath money to **** her! I say her I was glad to hear she made such a good deal and that I came to say good-bye because I was going to sleep.
After few seconds arrives the French, he seemed very angry cause she was talking to me, and he complains to her, she stare at him and tells him pointing me: "Look, this is my boyfriend, could u live us alone please?!" I immediately thought: "With the French man something did not work out for her deal or maybe she simply dislike him, and now I bet she goes for me!" but she started to cry as if one of his parents would have died: burst of tears that not even Charlton Eston would be able to perform.

While she was crying, she was saying she wanted to stay with me, but the French offered her money and she did not know what to do because this is her job and she needs money. Her words did not have any impact on myself, but I was dismayed by the the river of tears.
Trust me it was something of incredible, I cried like that in my life only when my grandfather died when I was 13, I can make my eyes to become more wet by concentrating on something of sad, but I would not be able to reproduce her way of crying even by spraying onions in my eyes.

Therfor I got hooked, I paied also that night to be with her (she said I paied less than what the French offered her). No ****ing anyway, I'm to afraid of HIV!

The next day she started to smell flowers, she got them for me and she put them over my ear, It was an uproarious deed. I would have liked to marry her straight away.
I did not resist to ask her to go out together the next afternoon.
Therefor we went out, I felt again really happy, I have never been so happy with another girl in all my life. But as always she brought me back to the rought reality asking me to buy her a ring as a sign of my interest for her. So I bought her the ring and I thought without telling her: "Ok, here now is betterto give up"

We did not see each other for a couple of nights, then I met her agian in the same place (as always I did not go there for her, it's simply the only place we liked to go in Koh Samui by night).
She takes out two pictures of her and she wanted to give them to me, she told me she has kept them in her purse for two days on purpose to give them to me because I should not forget her.
I did not know what to say then, so I asked her if she wanted to stay together also that night (the next day I was leaving).
We staied together, she told me the next morning that she did NOT want money. I insisted to give her the money anyway.

Now I still think at her, I called her today to ask how she goes.

So what do u think? It probaly sounds like one of the many Thailand stories, it's obviuos she is interested only in money.
But why she cried that night? Why she wanted to give me her pictures? Why she did not want money on the morning of the last day?
In short, is it possible that these Thai ladies are so smart to understand exactly how much they can pull the rope before it breaks?


What do u think? Moreover, who knows, maybe one of you knows Sirin even better than me....


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To break it to you softly:

She is the type they all warn you for. She was no bg you say, no she is FL and she is probably one of the better players on the field.

You were a first timer, so you got the first timer suckers treatment. You should have read here before leaving I guess.
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Being a Free Lancer probably means she used to work as a bg prior to turning to Free Lancing......thus her skills (crying, flowers, photo's etc) are all a package to hook you into a "sponsorship" arrangment.....ie, sending her money on a regular basis.

She probably has a few sponsors already.

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[quote=doublejackSo what do u think? It probaly sounds like one of the many Thailand stories, it's obviuos she is interested only in money.
But why she cried that night? Why she wanted to give me her pictures? Why she did not want money on the morning of the last day?
In short, is it possible that these Thai ladies are so smart to understand exactly how much they can pull the rope before it breaks?[/QUOTE]

I think your story is the kind of story that we have all mostly experienced. She showed you the charms of TGs. The actresses who are the best on stage and in movies are the best because they can really truly feel the emotions of crying, happiness, love, despair, depression, etc. when they act the role on stage or screen. This is the way it is with BGs. When they cry, they really feel sad, when they say they love you, they have real feelings for you in that moment. But the next day, it is all in the past if you are not right there, and they will feel the same for the next man who treats them well.

They are like children. Can be so happy and excited easy as children. That is what we love about them. Can be terribly sad and cry if things don't go just as they would like, same as with children. And they want you to take care of them just like you would care for a helpless child. When the Frenchman wants to go with her, she probably knows he is a bastard, and maybe she gets 2000 Baht, but he will not come to see her the next night. So she would rather be with you, who treats her well, and will be back night after night, again and again, so she gets more money in the end from you, plus good treatment. She knows that, so it makes her sad to see you go and she cries because she wants to get her way. Once when I was a child, and my parents took something away from me that I liked, I cried for over 24 hours straight with no sleeping, and they could not sleep for listening to me. When they yelled and threatened to hit me(perhaps they did, can't remember), then I cried all the louder. Needless to say, I got my way. I think a BG would do the same if she thought it would get her what she wants!!

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P.S. Turning down the money you offered her on the last night is the oldest trick in the BG's book! Trying to hook you for a sponsor or, at least, get you to come see her next trip!!
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The woman has a child.. She has to support that child.. She may well have liked you (your not especially old, you sound like you were nice to her, etc) but the number one fact is she needs money to survive.

What do we think.. Sounds like so many other Thailand stories.. The concepts of love, the issues of money, the relationship that has to trust, the motivations of all the players, it all mixes to create this great game... You either enjoy and understand it or you get eaten alive learning.
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doublejack, anyone who goes to LOS will experience something similar to what you did in their first or second trip and most of us learn from it. Had it myself..."take me shopping", "you buy gold for me". Girls that continually ASK for something really should set the alarm bells ringing. I even tend to swerve girls who keep asking me to buy them a drink...I know it's their job and they make a bit for themselves when I do buy one but then i don't feel as though I'm buying her drink because i like her and because I wanted to.

The girls are like a chocolate box though...all different, and they're not all hardened business women :-)

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...small experience, but real!
I got a reprimand by the forum's sages cause I wrote on anoter thread a summary of what I read around on the internet that was not coming out from my real experience.
They suggested me to introduce 1st myself.

1st of all: Hello to everyone! I'm Italian, I went to Thailand this year for the 1st time in my life.
Bye,

I have a problem with this , but, out of respect to the moderators (and the fact I'd probably get a 24 hour ban), I will reply to the other posts you made in "Relationships with Thai girls and Bar girls"
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I have a problem with this , but, out of respect to the moderators (and the fact I'd probably get a 24 hour ban), I will reply to the other posts you made in "Relationships with Thai girls and Bar girls"

It seems that topic is gone.
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It seems that topic is gone.

I have posted in "TGs and BGs introducing you to there family"
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It seems that topic is gone.

On the main page(click on the monkey above). This is the main message board page. It contains 4 sectons. The first section is called Phuket and contains subsections called General, Nightlife, Accomodations, Expats, Newbies, etc. The second section is called "Other Thailand Destinations," and has subsections on Bangkok, Koh Samui, Pattaya, etc. The third section is called "Thailand Related" and has two subsections, one of which is called "Relationships with BGs and Thai Girls." One of the topic threads there is called "TGs and BGs introducing you to their Family."

BTW, the 4th section on the main page is called, "What's Going On?" and contains info on whose is on line "live", BM's birthdays coming up, Forum statistics, and when BMs are or will be in LOS(dates of arrival and departure) for the next ten days.
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hehe that one I could find:P hehe he just put the wrong title on:P so I cou;dn't find his title :P
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...small experience, but real!
I got a reprimand by the forum's sages cause I wrote on anoter thread a summary of what I read around on the internet that was not coming out from my real experience.
They suggested me to introduce 1st myself.

1st of all: Hello to everyone! I'm Italian, I went to Thailand this year for the 1st time in my life.

I simply want to share with you my small story!

I met Sirin in Koh Samui at the Green Mango.
Sirin is not really a BG (I mean she does not work in a bar where you have to pay to take her out), but she works anyway as a prostitute.
Obviuosly I liked her so much, but since she was asking for money I told her I was not interested, she allured me telling me she would come with me for no money because she like me too, so we staied together one night (no ****ing), but the next morning she started to beg me for money, because she got a daughter and she got a family and she needs to eat.
I gave her alms quite happily, since here in Italy I do not usually give too much alms.

The next day I asked her to go out, we staied together the all afternoon where she seemed to be happy and I certainly had some wonderful moments too, never felt in my life such feelings, infinite enchant!
But in other moments she brought me back to the rough reality: "give money to fix my cellphone" - "when you go baack to Italy would u send me money?", etc.

Therefore I decided, without telling her, to give up on everything, at the end actions speak louder then words, and with her actions: 'going on asking for money' she showed me she was simply practising her art (as prostitute) and she had no other interest in me!

The same night I see her again at the Green Mango, I did not go there on purpose to meet her, we (me and friend) went there cause we liked the place.
I saw her talking with a French bloke who offered her and her friends champagne (Thai brand probably)
I go closer to her only to talk a bit and to say good-bye to her, she tells me that the French offered her 2000 bath money to **** her! I say her I was glad to hear she made such a good deal and that I came to say good-bye because I was going to sleep.
After few seconds arrives the French, he seemed very angry cause she was talking to me, and he complains to her, she stare at him and tells him pointing me: "Look, this is my boyfriend, could u live us alone please?!" I immediately thought: "With the French man something did not work out for her deal or maybe she simply dislike him, and now I bet she goes for me!" but she started to cry as if one of his parents would have died: burst of tears that not even Charlton Eston would be able to perform.

While she was crying, she was saying she wanted to stay with me, but the French offered her money and she did not know what to do because this is her job and she needs money. Her words did not have any impact on myself, but I was dismayed by the the river of tears.
Trust me it was something of incredible, I cried like that in my life only when my grandfather died when I was 13, I can make my eyes to become more wet by concentrating on something of sad, but I would not be able to reproduce her way of crying even by spraying onions in my eyes.

Therfor I got hooked, I paied also that night to be with her (she said I paied less than what the French offered her). No ****ing anyway, I'm to afraid of HIV!

The next day she started to smell flowers, she got them for me and she put them over my ear, It was an uproarious deed. I would have liked to marry her straight away.
I did not resist to ask her to go out together the next afternoon.
Therefor we went out, I felt again really happy, I have never been so happy with another girl in all my life. But as always she brought me back to the rought reality asking me to buy her a ring as a sign of my interest for her. So I bought her the ring and I thought without telling her: "Ok, here now is betterto give up"

We did not see each other for a couple of nights, then I met her agian in the same place (as always I did not go there for her, it's simply the only place we liked to go in Koh Samui by night).
She takes out two pictures of her and she wanted to give them to me, she told me she has kept them in her purse for two days on purpose to give them to me because I should not forget her.
I did not know what to say then, so I asked her if she wanted to stay together also that night (the next day I was leaving).
We staied together, she told me the next morning that she did NOT want money. I insisted to give her the money anyway.

Now I still think at her, I called her today to ask how she goes.

So what do u think? It probaly sounds like one of the many Thailand stories, it's obviuos she is interested only in money.
But why she cried that night? Why she wanted to give me her pictures? Why she did not want money on the morning of the last day?
In short, is it possible that these Thai ladies are so smart to understand exactly how much they can pull the rope before it breaks?


What do u think? Moreover, who knows, maybe one of you knows Sirin even better than me....


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They are like children. Can be so happy and excited easy as children. That is what we love about them. Can be terribly sad and cry if things don't go just as they would like, same as with children. And they want you to take care of them just like you would care for a helpless child...

Excellent, lovely, great, quote, man!
I really appreciate that!

Thanks also for all the reamining part, it was really nice explained!
Thanks also for all the other quotes of other BMs, except for the ones who did not seem interested in my story because they were too bz in making up useless puzzles with what I said, and what I did, and other crap!

Guess, what happened? She called me today, she asked me for money for the 1st time!

Guess what I did?

After all what I read on this and other forums, I told her:
"Why do u ask me for money darling, u told me when I was there that u had other farangs sending u money?"

She kept quiet for a while, than she saied:
"R u sure I told you that, can't be, I do not have other farangs!"

I replied:
"Yes, remember?! You told me when u were drunk!"

She thought a bit about it because she went quiet again, then she started to laugh like a little child (which is not) and she saied:
"You are right darling, I'm sorry I asked u money!"

It was unbelievable! Then we talked a bit. She was nice anyway! They r worst than kids! They are lovely and beautiful marmaids!
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The above is NOT going to happen to ME. Even though it will be my first visit to Thailand in Feb this year. I'am so glad I discovered this forum before I fly. My senses radar will be tuned in and turned on to any and all scams both M+F.

I'm just going to Thailand for a good fun time, see the country and the culture. If I want a wife I can easily get one here in Australia. But why would I want to get married for the first time at my age.....its just too good being single and I will remain that way yeah!!

Although I do feel for you Doublejack...take my advise and give her the flick. In other words, tell her to get lost. Tell her NOW!!!! better still, just refuse to communicate with her. Good luck Amigo.
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Although I do feel for you Doublejack...take my advise and give her the flick.

You have just answered a post from 2005 !!!! , the poster has not even logged in since then , perhaps you should check the date of previous posts before replying.
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Although I do feel for you Doublejack...take my advise and give her the flick. In other words, tell her to get lost. Tell her NOW!!!! better still, just refuse to communicate with her. Good luck Amigo.

I doubt Doublejack will read this. He last logged onto the forum in Sept 2005
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I think hes probably made his mind up.. 3 years ago !!
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OOPS, yes you are all correct...I should have checked the date of posting....it felt good though responding to him. Wonder if he's still alive.
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The above is NOT going to happen to ME. Even though it will be my first visit to Thailand in Feb this year. I'am so glad I discovered this forum before I fly. My senses radar will be tuned in and turned on to any and all scams both M+F.


Thanks to this board you won't fall for any of the tricks but it won't prevent you falling in love at least once!

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