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16-12-2005, 18:57
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soccer/ROUND FOOTBALL helmets?????
this is why soccer/round football will never take off here in the USA........
from the boston globe  Home > News > Local > Mass. Measure calls for soccer helmets Value of headgear is much debated By Russell Nichols and Raja Mishra, Globe Staff | December 14, 2005 Like football and hockey players, soccer players would have to don helmets on the field to protect their heads, under a new legislative proposal. No other states appear to have passed a similar law, Massachusetts lawmakers and physicians said. The proposal marks the first time this debate, which has long roiled the youth soccer world, has spilled into the state's political arena. With strong evidence of long-term neurological damage among a portion of veteran soccer players, some soccer officials, parents, and physicians around the nation have recently been pushing for more safety measures for young players, including an outright ban on heading, an integral part of the world's most popular sport. The measure up for discussion before the Joint Committee on Public Health was initially a heading ban, but was rewritten at the last minute to the helmet requirement. YOUR VIEW: Should helmets be required to play soccer? Physicians say requiring headgear for youth soccer players is not unreasonable because collisions between players, and player crashes into goal posts, are the most frequent causes of soccer head injuries. But some soccer coaches, trainers, and parents say the Beacon Hill measure and other efforts are misguided and unnecessary meddling by politicians. Allison Canale, 44, of Rutland, who has been involved with soccer for 12 years as a coach and parent, said children don't have enough collisions to warrant helmets. ''It's a contact sport from the hips down," she said, adding that her young players probably would feel hampered on the field by headgear. ''It's already difficult for me to get the boys to wear the ankle guards." Moreover, soccer helmets ''will look silly," said Stephen DeFranc, Weymouth High School's athletic trainer. ''It'll look like football." And don't get youth soccer players started on the subject. ''It's really just something extra that you don't really need," said Ben Bratt, 13, of Winchester, who plays for two soccer teams in his town. ''I think it would just be kind of annoying." His mother, Amy Sterling-Bratt, has cringed from the sidelines at on-field smash-ups, but on this topic she concurred with her son. ''I've seen some pretty nasty head collisions on the field," she said. ''I can't imagine that helmets are going to make a difference." Representative Deborah D. Blumer, a Framingham Democrat and the bill's sponsor, said she thinks the helmet requirement is unlikely to pass because lawmakers dislike a measure based on disputed research. But she believes lawmakers might go for another part of the bill that would set up a legislative commission on sports injuries. The group, which includes physicians, lawmakers, and sporting officials, would advise lawmakers on sports safety legislation, including measures on soccer helmets. ''My own feeling is that whatever we can do to protect their heads is a good idea," said Blumer, adding that she proposed the measure at the urging of a Framingham constituent who advocates for people with head injuries. A 1992 Norwegian study found that 35 percent of active soccer players in that country had abnormal brain scans, and another study in that country of retired professional players found a third of them had brain atrophy, or a shrinking of brain tissue that results in behavioral and cognitive problems. The study concluded that the damage probably was a result of repeated heading. ''Long-term studies of soccer players have shown a decreased level of cognitive function," said Micheli of Children's Hospital. ''But it's not clear if it's from headers, or concussions from collisions. That's the $64,000 question." But in 2000, after reviewing studies, the American Academy of Pediatrics concluded there was not enough evidence to recommend that youth players wear headgear. Although professional, college, and high school soccer leagues have never considered the use or helmets or widespread bans on heading, the issue has been hotly debated at the youth level. Some youth soccer leagues prohibit heading, although the practice is rare, soccer officials said. National bodies such as the American Youth Soccer Organization, among the largest amateur groups in the nation, have come close to passing bans. Paul Wetzel, spokesman for the Massachusetts Interscholastic Athletic Association, an organization that coordinates and regulates sports programs for 360 public and private high schools in the state, said the organization has not seen a need to implement a helmet rule. Ben Miller, director of sports medicine at Northeastern University, said banning headers altogether would be better than forcing players to wear helmets. He doesn't think players would agree to wear the helmets. Still, Miller said, ''It's hard to envision right now. It just seems kind of odd in the sense of having a helmet on a soccer player." © Copyright 2005 Globe Newspaper Company. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- the politicans will take all the fun out of soccer/round football NO HEADING...bleep that  Last edited by me123 : 16-12-2005 at 22:14. 
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16-12-2005, 19:24
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Whats Soccer?
And what the hell is "Round Football" is that like "Rounders" with a football?
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16-12-2005, 19:45
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Not a big fan of the name Soccer myself, it will always be football in my opinion i.e. a game played with foot and ball as opposed to these padded, armoured, helmeted, stop start and use as many rolling substitute games of...........hand and ball! But then again, that name (handball) is taken so let's try and keep ours and impose a cannabilisation of the words Association Football on the original one! A game played on a rectangular field with net goals at either end in which two teams of 11 players each try to drive a ball into the other's goal by kicking, heading, or using any part of the body except the arms and hands. The goalie is the only player who may touch or move the ball with the arms or hands. I also have a gripe about so called 'World Series' of games with only one or two countries taking part but that's for another thread.
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16-12-2005, 21:27
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What like Gaelic football ?? Or Australian rules football...
Paul took some real ribbing (all in good sprt) over rugby v US Football toughness..
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16-12-2005, 21:38
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No they are different types of Football and are named so... What I disagree with is changing the name of Football to Soccer... Gaelic (Irish) Football American Football Aussie Rules Football Are all cool because they are known as that..ie they make there own rules, A different type of football, But at the end Football is not soccer... Its Football 
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16-12-2005, 21:51
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16-12-2005, 21:52
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[quote=LivinLOS]What like Gaelic football ?? Or Australian rules football...
/QUOTE] Gaelic and Aussie rules are two more games that involve carrying, punching and occasionally kicking the ball, they have the name football and have had for a long time and it isn't going to change. I just think my gripe is that trying to introduce another name for a game which in the pure essense of that game is Foot and Ball and not Hand and Ball, has been around longer and is popular all over the world and not in just in the one country it is played i.e. US, Gaelic and OZ is a tad wrong! It's not going to change, but I still cringe when I hear the term Soccer and Soccer Moms!! AAAArrrrrrrrrrrrrghhhhh! It's Football and always will be to me. Just my opinion!
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16-12-2005, 21:56
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You dont have to take a field goal, you can go for 2 points (or something) so its just the two (four?) punts.
I'm gonna upset people here but I would guess that more people play soccer in the USA than any other countryin the world. I remember going in 1984 and seeing 40 football pitches lined up on a Saturday with every single one full, for the entire day. Of course it was mostly women. This was in a smallish city, Dont think the City where I'm from even has 40 football picthes.
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16-12-2005, 22:00
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YOU KICK FIELD GOALS OR JUST PUNT IF YOU DO NOT MAKE THE REQUIRED NUMBER OF YARDS....[CALLED A DOWN].. IJ
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16-12-2005, 22:18
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16-12-2005, 22:47
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i just think its real stupid too force kids too wear helmets
while playing field basketball...they interviewd a couple of kids here on tv and they said they would quit playing if they have too wear fing helmets i aggree dumbass idea and will shy many kids away from playing the game IMHO...
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17-12-2005, 03:09
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Field Basketball, Yes that a good name for "American Soccer" Leave the Football to us...555555555..
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17-12-2005, 03:58
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It's just the hairy-fairy namby-pamby do-goody two-shoes wrap our kids in cotton wool, liberalist health and safety concious pain-in-the-bum A-holes and safety helmet manufacturers who are making a fuss!
What's wrong when you are between 9-13 standing on a Thursday afternoon, pissed wet through in a biting crosswind on a crappy corporation football pitch playing for your school against St BigB'stards from down the road and having a tooth or two knocked out! Maybe a broken nose, a broken toe or finger etc and definately some stud marks down your shins and the backs of your legs! Makes a man of you! Bloody kids these days! Tch I dunno, puffs the lot of 'em! They'll be wearing shoulder pads, chest armour, gum-shields and shin-pads next, must be a gay thing! 
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17-12-2005, 07:34
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If nobody ever scored(which is nearly impossible), then their would still be the kickoff at the beginning, the kickoff at the start of the second half, and about 16 punts, plus the kickoff for the overtime period, and however many punts there were in the extra period. So it would easily be over 20 kicks in a game, not including missed field goal kicks, which would likely be a few more, at least. Games where nobody scores involves a lot of punting, which is why that is considered to be the most boring game. Hello, I just went to NFL.com, and checked the stats there. The average number of kicks in an NFL game this season is approx 26 kicks, including punts, FGs, PATs, and KOs. Not many compared to a soccer game, of course, but still the kicks account for a lot more points scored than in a soccer game, so they are a very important part of the game. According to my calcs, 33% of scoring was made by kicks, so kicking is a large part of the game in American football!!!
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17-12-2005, 13:23
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No you are all so very wrong, the real game is Rugby League, go the Dragons.
Seriously though, the thing that makes me laugh about football or soccer, or whatever you want to call it these days, is all the FAKE dives the players take to try and gain advantage. Some of them should go up for an academy award.
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17-12-2005, 13:36
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Bunch of puffs...
Although there may be a case if you were to have a very round, white and black spotted, completely bald head and are given to taking naps in the middle of a football field whislt wearing a grass-coloured suit, then you might have a serious risk of being kicked in the head - so yes, under those circumstances, helmets may be required
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17-12-2005, 13:36
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One of the reasons the game never really interested me..
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17-12-2005, 14:50
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