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05-03-2006, 04:01
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Another farang loses (pattaya)
Just thought I would post this story up which I found earlier today, it will show newbies to thailand why you should never get involved in altercations between thai's.
There are some that might say they cannot turn a blind eye because this story is involving a lady and they would get involved to help her out,while that is noble it can also be stupid, it's just not worth trying to sort it out yourself as a farang IMHO. Best to leave it to other thai's and hope they will sort it. http://www.pattayacitynews.net/news_01_03_49_3.htm 
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#2
05-03-2006, 04:05
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Jeez that's horrible. I think a lot of guys would do exactly the same thing though, it's instinctive I think. You would do it without thinking
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05-03-2006, 04:23
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If there are Thai people about, I would let them sort it out. It does say it was a verbal altercation between the girl and the admirer. Maybe the farang jumped in a bit early and did not fully understand the position he was putting himself in. Also says that there were other occassions when he had approached her, which appears she managed to fend off ok, so was this occassion any different. Full marks to the Thai bloke who stepped in to help the farang.
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05-03-2006, 19:41
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well by the looks of the farangs injuries, he was lucky in a little way, it could have been a lot worse.
the 2 aggressors, i think were looking for some sort of trouble if they had an iron bar with them. it was good a thai bar owner went to his aid. but in thai business, its best left to the thais, we have all read about the amount of gun crime, especially in pattaya so again he was lucky they were not armed in that fashion. probably the thai bar owner, or the BG will organise some sort of thai style retribution. difficult situation for any decent man to be put in, at one time i would have intervened, but now knowing a little bit more, i would think twice.
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06-03-2006, 00:15
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So my question here is : at which point you are going to do something.? So let say you just come around the corner and you see a guy slapping a girl. You donīt know him or her and you dont know what happened. What would you do?
Is this Thai Business? In Germany its law to help someone in emergency, you can be punished for not helping a person either in case of an accident or in case of crime. Depending on what happened you can get into prison. But in reallity too many people just pass!!
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06-03-2006, 00:24
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Point being that you are no longer in Germany...
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06-03-2006, 02:30
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When in the military and being trained as a medic we were always taught to assist in accidents etc.Here in Thailand even rendering assistance at an accident scene may end up with you getting the blame.The good Samaritain Act does not apply here.Harsh as it may sound - if you are not directly involved keep on moving. 
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06-03-2006, 03:26
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Just to show that it doesn't only happen in LOS, many years ago here in Oz, I was driving home late one evening and saw what looked like 2 guys attacking a girl and tying her to a tree! As this was before mobile phones I went to the police station and reported it.
The next day, I dropped in to the police station to find out what had happened. The cop told me that they had sent a car out there but the 2 cops in it got a heap of verbals from the girl because she was having fun!! Moral:- you never know what is really going on when you come late on the scene!
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06-03-2006, 09:23
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this is the hardest thing to come to grips in thailand. i am a hothead to end all hotheads. obviuosly as i get older im calming down, but its still hard for me to bite my tounge.
one thing, though, and people will disagree, is i got involved whne my gf was about to be hit with a henieken bottle. i got in between and floored the girl. some guys said i shouldnt have got involved. just is not the way brought up. if someone i know is involved and needs help, im helping
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06-03-2006, 09:44
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if someone i know is involved and needs help, im helping[/quote]
Dear Paulie, I read your recent post and just wanted to make you aware that i am currently involved in Thailand and wondered if you could help. signed Desperate oF Phuket
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07-03-2006, 03:49
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My misses was always telling me not to get involved, see an accident dont stop keep going. I know this goes against everything that we have been taught growing up in the western world, but it really is very different out there.
I remember one night driving from Patong to Karon and we came across a truck which had gone off the side of road and was upside down, only just happened as its wheels were still spinning. I slowed down, but the misses and some other girls from the bar told me to keep going, and let someone else worry about it. I asked if it was because of a farang in the car that they didnt want to stop. I was told, that she would stop only if there were at least 3 or 4 Thai guys in the car with them. Its sad really.
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07-03-2006, 04:20
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I dont think it is a matter of "running away", but they are more thinking along the lines of self preservation, protecting ones self from unknown dangers.
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07-03-2006, 04:55
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Maybe, but in your example, a truck is upside down. Someone is most likely hurt inside. How could you possibly protect yourself by not helping? Totaly contradicts the buddhist religion too doesnt it? The whole karma part that is.
Unless western people are worth less then asian people in the buddhist religion. But that i very much doubt without even knowing alot about it.
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07-03-2006, 05:06
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Interesting
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Good Post Very interesting post and the response to it. I think it highlights a lot about the difference in values and outlook on life. The more time you spend in LOS the more aware you become and you do become a lot more aware of how little value there is on life and how some Thai's would rather commit murder and go to prison for life (over something we would not even consider important) rather than lose face and back down. Thailand is like an exotic animal that looks very attractive and mysterious but try and own or tame it (and give it care and help when you think it needs it) and it might just bite or sting you- and that bite could be fatal- it is one wild beast that can take care of its self. Regards Drew
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07-03-2006, 23:32
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How about if the upside down truck which you stopped to help has dead people in it and the survivors say you ran it off the road? How about if you try to help someone who is trapped and he dies in your arms? The survivors will all say he was fine until you started messing with him maybe? There are a million 'what ifs' and if you don't ask yourself a few before getting into a situation you could have a great deal of trouble getting out of it. Life is worth less in some places, and don't forget that that means your life too.
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07-03-2006, 23:41
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 There's always "what if..." to every situation and I don't think it's really fair to say that you shouldn't help out vitcims of a traffic accident in case they say you caused it. Are people really saying here that if a guy is staggering across the road covered in blood, that they would actually drive round him and speed off in to the distance ?? Stopping a fight when it's nothing to do with you is one thing, but not stopping to help out a road crash victim is something entirely different.
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08-03-2006, 01:37
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I'm not saying what I would do, I have no idea what I would do if that happened. I came across pretty much that scenario at home; car buried in a tree and the driver breathing his last. I stopped and did what I could, very little. What I am saying is that if people do choose to drive by I could understand why.
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08-03-2006, 02:21
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08-03-2006, 02:26
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Ally dont understand what you mean  For me its easy like that: " It looks like shit, it smells like shit , than it must be shit" No matter where it is, same same for me
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08-03-2006, 02:46
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Sorry , but this is something what i would never accept. If there is an accident or somebody in big trouble i will help. No matter if the person is thai or farrang. In the first place its a human being. i think this is getting too much into perversion to say this is the thai way to do it!!! And also i want to remind you of the thread where a thai Bar owner was helping a farang in trouble and he got badly hurt too. I couldnt live with the doubt that somebody died because i was running away. Call me stupid, call me a fool or tell me i dont understand or have not adopted the thai way of live. But then i have to tell you this is imho bullshit and you should think about how much you want to become a pseudo thai!!! Humanity has no nationality. If after helping i get trouble than i will see it in the thai way , mai pen rai! but i can still look in the mirror at the next morning, looking my face and doing a shave... 
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08-03-2006, 03:02
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