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13-10-2007, 13:40
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Another attack in Rawai, Aussie and Brit mugged
RAWAI: An Australian woman was pulled off her motorcycle and robbed at gunpoint early Sunday morning in the same area where Norwegian tourist Simen Knudsen was killed two weeks earlier.
The victim, 27-year-old Australian Sooz Lomas, arrived in Phuket about two weeks ago to learn Thai boxing at the Rawai Muay Thai camp. http://www.phuketgazette.com/news/index.asp?id=6026 
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13-10-2007, 13:42
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All this recent bad publicity sure isn't doing Phuket any favours as a tourist destination....especially with high season approaching
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13-10-2007, 13:56
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Very disturbing and not a good advert for the tourists. Strange there was only a small mention of the guy driving the motorcycle she was pulled from.
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13-10-2007, 14:30
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It seems the roads outside the towns in Phuket have become very dangerous places to be riding motorcyles at night.
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13-10-2007, 15:00
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Seems the roads in town are also a dangerous place for certain BM's to be riding motorcycles. 
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13-10-2007, 15:15
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I hope the Aussie girl was not Sparkle or Mizzamzz!!!
They are both in town at the moment!!!
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13-10-2007, 15:25
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I hope the international media grabs this and draws attention.... Total BS... Will keep happening.
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13-10-2007, 15:28
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Sparkle lives in Phuket (with hubby and baby) , and Mizzamzz doesn't arrive till 19th , so don't think it could be either of them.  Quote:
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13-10-2007, 15:46
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Yeah.. remembered later that Sparkle lived here..... just that she or her hubby are into Muay Thai......well Sparkle checks out the bodies(apparently!!!)
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13-10-2007, 18:31
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One of the reasons why I like to have a hotel short walking distance to Bangla.
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14-10-2007, 06:07
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Same here. America is not the safest place, but I make an effort not to put myself in harms way where ever I am. What will it take for the police to get control of the situation??
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14-10-2007, 06:12
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And a major reason I never ventured up to safari last trip.
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14-10-2007, 10:35
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How do the police control the situation? all they can do is patrol the road after hours but then of course you have other priorities to deal with, so impossible. I read the article about the norwegian that was killed, 3 lads picking a spot that is not covered by Kathu police but by Rawaii police, therefore 15km away from the station. Nice dark, unlit road, with them just sitting by the side of the road on their bikes.
So you patrol the road, and what can you accuse them of? As a local we drive at night but normally by car, we do use bikes occasionally. As a tourist, maybe it should be advised not to use bikes after dark if going so far from your hotel, and advice should be use a tuk tuk.. Comment about America not being the safest place!!! America and here are nowhere comparable, should not even be mentioned in the same sentance.
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14-10-2007, 10:57
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2.30AM in the morning - riding around in unfamiliar roads = most likely under the influence ... not a wise thing to do even in your own back yard - pity some leave common sense at home when they get on the airplane.
Its very unpleasant that this should happen and of course this should NOT happen - but unfortunately every country has its share of opportunist thugs so exercising a degree of caution when traveling makes sense.
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14-10-2007, 11:57
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I'm sure we can all think of another country where we wouldn't even consider leaving the hotel compound after dark. For me......The Gambia, Jamaica, Mexico, Cuba, Goa, Kenya, South Africa............All holiday destinations and I think we have more freedom or 'safety' of movement here at night than lots of places I could mention. You have to have your wits about you. Perhaps the hotels and B&B's could make more of a point of mentioning it to thier visitors. Riding my bike at night after a few beers..........Guilty as charged, got the t-shirt etc..........But I know which roads I won't be riding along after dark.
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14-10-2007, 12:38
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By the sounds of it they went the wrong way after leaving Icon. the way back to the boxing camp is not towards Kata and is not a deserted place even at 3AM. The only danger I experienced with these late night trips was the dogs sleeping in the middle of the road......
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14-10-2007, 13:11
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I know from experience that it is best to avoid potentially violent situations, but I also know from experience that a good offense can save your life. Can a guy carry a knife in Phuket?
If a guy defends himself, and hurts his attackers, will he get deported? I hope this is not sounding like thug talk because I am concerned about the safety of myself and others. What do you guys think?
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14-10-2007, 14:27
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14-10-2007, 14:37
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Not sure about carrying a knife but you are perfectly at liberty to defend yourself. There was an incident off Nanai Road some time ago where a farang caught an intruder in his apartment and ended up pushing him out of the window...2nd or 3rd floor it was!...and the farang was commended by the police.
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14-10-2007, 14:56
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Did (they) classify that, as a "suicide"? 5555
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14-10-2007, 16:48
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In Norway Phuket (and Thailand in general) is promoted as a very safe place for tourist. I am sure it is but they should add that one should take the usual precautians etc and enlighten danger of motorbike riding at night. That I have not seen written in the promotions of Phuket. 99,9 % of tourists to Phuket will not ride motorbike at night in Phuket anyway so IMO it should be no problem to add this as a general warning. The toursits will still come!
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14-10-2007, 17:57
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Midnightsun1, yeah read your reply understand it makes your blood boil but there is emotion in your post and no sensible solution.
How many policemen would they need to patrol every unlit road on this island? then no good just occasional patrolling because they do that now, they would have to employ enough policemen to patrol along the roads every 30 minutes or less, just work out the logistics and cost of doing that. Then ask yourself where else in the world can a country afford to man their officers to this level? Of course you have to prioritise the service level you can offer with the manpower available. There are any number of other jobs they are required to do, attend road accidents, road problems such as traffic lights failing, lorries broken down, to shop or house breakins, problems with drunks, bars overstepping opening times, not all of these are life threatening but should they do none of these jobs and drive around all the unlit roads on the island incase there might be a mugger awaiting to attack someone? How about taking on upaid volunteers to assist? well they also have done that with Tourist police, who assist in the less important roles, freeing up more of their time. Unfortunately most law enforcement all over the world is reactive, overworked and underpaid and Thailand is no different to anywhere else. Crime is lower here than many other places, I for one feel a lot safer here than back in the UK, I get more assistance here than a forigner would back home. You living here? what are you doing about it? or just complaining that someone else isn't doing something about it? Cos whilst very little driving in my car is not a cop out, it is being sensible and not presenting opportunity. Driving home late at night, possibly the worse for wear drinks wise, is not sensible anywhere in the world. Yes I do think that holidaymakers should be told about the way to act here, culturally and for their own safety, but honestly think it would fall on deaf ears, as it does now!!
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14-10-2007, 18:22
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While we still want plenty of tourists to come to Phuket, I think we have to admit and talk about that there are some problems here.
I really don't think its a good solution to say; if you go out at night, you brought it on yourself. As for police effort, they proved themself pretty usless in the case with the norwegian guy.. His family now demands a seperate norwegian investegation. Whatever that's good for, it will keep some unplesant attention to the case.
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