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Old 27-12-2007, 21:04
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ITN - 28 minutes ago

Pakistani opposition leader Benazir Bhutto has been killed in a suicide attack at a political rally, party offical Rehman Malik has said.
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"She has been martyred," he said.

At least 15 other people were killed in the gun and bomb attack after a rally in the city of Rawalpindi, officials said.

The country's former prime minister was leaving the park where she had just finished her rally in support of her party's campaign for a January 8 general election when the attack happened.

A witness said he saw about eight bodies on a road as well as a mutilated human head.

On October 18, a suicide bomber killed nearly 150 people in an attack on Ms Bhutto as she paraded through the southern city of Karachi after returning home from eight years in self-imposed exile.

Earlier, gunmen opened fire on supporters of another former prime minister, Nawaz Sharif, from an office of the party that supports President Pervez Musharraf, killing four Sharif supporters, police said.

Mr Sharif was several miles away from the shooting and was on his way to Rawalpindi after attending a rally.

Mr Sharif, who was overthrown by Mr Musharraf in a 1999 coup and allowed back into the country just last month after seven years in exile, blamed supporters of the pro-Musharraf party for the violence.

But a spokesman for the party denied that its workers were involved.
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Benazir Bhutto killed in attack





Jeeze where the f.. is going on.

Must say she was brave lady till the last,she been out among people and criticised the military openly, and wanted political processes al the time,and did know she was a sitting duck.

1-0 to the assh....
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There goes about our only chance to bring some awareness to a nut-job nuclear nation.

Bhutto served twice as Pakistan's prime minister between 1988 and 1996. She had returned to Pakistan from an eight-year exile on Oct. 18.



The gunman reportedly shot Bhutto as she was getting into her vehicle, then blew himself up. At least 20 others were killed in a blast that took place as Bhutto left a political rally where she addressed thousands of supporters to canvas votes for Jan. 8 parliamentary elections.
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Old 27-12-2007, 21:45
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What a messed up place Pakistan is. Benazir Bhutto contributed immensely for the "man in the street" in Pakistan, and despite threats to her life, caaried on canvassing for what she believed in. As Petter said, she was a brave lady.
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RIP Benazir Bhutto.

Pakistan and the world is poorer for her passing, and a less safe place.
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What a stupid biatch for going back .... no surprise ... perhaps the same for Square Head if he comes back ...

Just cant understand the mentality of these political power hungry cnuts that think that things will run easy ... those in control wont give up easy.

Make Pakistan easier for USA - now is US backed Mushaiff all the way.
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Saw it on CNN this morning, really madness!!!
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Pakistan is steadilly sinking deeper into a mire and I can't see it getting any better...
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Make Pakistan easier for USA - now is US backed Mushaiff all the way.

how does a Pakistan that is closer to Islamic Extremist taking over make it easier for US?
funny, most Pakistani people that were against Bhutto would say she was just a US muppet. I wouldnt mistake Mushaiff taking billions from the US and Georgie and not doing a damn thing exactly "backing him"
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back to her death
you see where there is all these conflicting reports on how she exactly died?
3 different scenarios and of course, with Muslim burial rituals, there is no way to confirm any of them because she had to be buried 24 hours after her death
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one of the senarios on the bbc interviewing some Government official was that she died by hitting her head on the roof of the car.......

another earlier in the day from another senior government minister suggested the path of the car was blocked by 3 or 4 of her supporters so the lady got up through the roof to tell them to move.....providing the opportunity for the assassin to strike.........how very coincidental that the car was halted in line with the suicide bomber.......

whatever the reason may she rest in peace
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I hate to say this, but being assassinated is probably the best thing that could have happened to her reputation. I can't deny it took a lot of courage to go back like she did but I don't think she was the saviour of the People she is being made out to be. She was an old guard politician who knew the game and had her fair share of corruption charges.
Now she'll be cannonized as a brave peoples champion who was cut down for standing up. I really wouldn't lay odds on which side pulled the trigger.
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how does a Pakistan that is closer to Islamic Extremist taking over make it easier for US?
funny, most Pakistani people that were against Bhutto would say she was just a US muppet. I wouldnt mistake Mushaiff taking billions from the US and Georgie and not doing a damn thing exactly "backing him"

Sorry but Mushariff is TOTALLY a US asset. Hes been US backed, US kept in power, US supported ALL through his reign.. While he has been in power the US have pumped billions in 'military aid' to strengthen him and allowed Pakistan to become an atomic power.

Did you notice the muted US outcry when he would not go democratically ??

Thats not to say that Bhutto would not have been a more welcome change but Musharref is definitely 'their man in havana'..
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benazir bhutto assasinated

Her destiny was decided by her opponent very early.
She was a woman, and a western educated and thinking one, that did want reforms in one of the darkest political systems on earth.

Think she must have been something spesial to do what she did,and without people like her we are al little more unsafe in this world.

Think she deserve respect for what she tried to do for her own people.
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Sorry but Mushariff is TOTALLY a US asset. Hes been US backed, US kept in power, US supported ALL through his reign.. While he has been in power the US have pumped billions in 'military aid' to strengthen him and allowed Pakistan to become an atomic power.

Did you notice the muted US outcry when he would not go democratically ??

Thats not to say that Bhutto would not have been a more welcome change but Musharref is definitely 'their man in havana'..

no, i agree
he is their man...but has been taken the US for a ride
he has done jack shit for that money and hasnt been held accountable
which, you could ask, they must be getting something out of the deal, which i am sure they are

but as i pointed out, many Pakistanis that opposed Bhutto believed she was just a US puppet
how is what is happening in Pakistan right now good for the US?

actually, i believe a good way to sum it up is that Musharref is indeed backed by US
but K2's comments made it seem this is what US wanted, Bhutto geting assinated and that is not in the US best interests

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Thats not to say that Bhutto would not have been a more welcome change but Musharref is definitely 'their man in havana'

Yes he is,but do the west coalition have any choise,he is there and thats what you have,they probably did think he was the best of the worse in this times.

And hes far from beeing a man with democratic way of thinking.
How many people are driven out of that country and had a hope for changes with benazir bhutto.

And Pakistan is maybee the most importent strategic country in the war going on at the moment
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how is what is happening in Pakistan right now good for the US?

actually, i believe a good way to sum it up is that Musharref is indeed backed by US
but K2's comments made it seem this is what US wanted, Bhutto geting assinated and that is not in the US best interests
US getting thier fingers burned again! US best interests and all that. This is getting a bit tiresome............for me anyway.

Pakistan has nuclear weapons, if the muslim extremists get thier fingers anywhere near the button! I am guessing the US will just go in and make Pakistan into a sheet of glass and sod the consequences before they will let that happen!

More work for me I guess ala that other US backed regime and dictator....'whatsisname'......I forget! Soon be 2008, woooo hoooo, what have the US got lined up for the rest of us next!

I hope George W sees that Elephant making love to a Polar Bear on the White house lawn soon and he can start sorting out the Global warming stuff.

PS Jokes are out already! I can't believe thats not Bhutto!

She had balls, shame she had to go like that.
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US getting thier fingers burned again! US best interests and all that. This is getting a bit tiresome............for me anyway.

Pakistan has nuclear weapons, if the muslim extremists get thier fingers anywhere near the button! I am guessing the US will just go in and make Pakistan into a sheet of glass and sod the consequences before they will let that happen!

More work for me I guess ala that other US backed regime and dictator....'whatsisname'......I forget! Soon be 2008, woooo hoooo, what have the US got lined up for the rest of us next!

I hope George W sees that Elephant making love to a Polar Bear on the White house lawn soon and he can start sorting out the Global warming stuff.

PS Jokes are out already! I can't believe thats not Bhutto!

She had balls, shame she had to go like that.

i agree with everything you said but to say that Bhutto's assination makes it easier for US is not an accurate statement

anyways, i dont feel like this turning into a US vs World thread. it is ashame that Bhutto was murdered and whatever anyone thinks, you have to admire her guts
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i agree with everything you said but to say that Bhutto's assination makes it easier for US is not an accurate statement

anyways, i dont feel like this turning into a US vs World thread. it is ashame that Bhutto was murdered and whatever anyone thinks, you have to admire her guts

I hear you Paul and you know me, like you, I speak my mind. I think I can honestly say hand on heart, that the concensus of the UK public now is getting a wee bit pee'd off with our Governments constant falling into line with the US. Especially were the Military is concerned.

I do hope Pakistan, Iraq and Afghanistan and the Palestinians can get their act together, they have been fannying around like this for hundreds of years without help from the UK, UN or the US and I am guessing it isn't going to change anytime soon.

If any country feels threatened by these countries they should send in the wives of the 'The Unit' - Tough bunch of women them, they'll get it sorted.
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You only have to be a fan of Flashman (or real history ) to know how many times the UK has been involved in the 'Afgan conflicts'.. Plus didnt do Russia too much good either !!

Having been at war for centuries, maybe you have to conclude that they are just onery bastrads !!

The the fact they are both nuclear and host the red mosque is a scary scary thing. I read a newsweek or time article a couple of months back titled 'the most dangerous place in the world' that really put the frighteners out.
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I just wonder what the point of an armored vehicle with a sunroof was FFS. Anyone at such a high threat level should never have been allowed by their security staff to be travelling like that. Will be interesting to see what the 'armchair experts' chip in on this one.
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Bhutto’s Son and Husband to Lead Party

LAHORE, Pakistan — Three days after the death of Benazir Bhutto, the Pakistan People’s Party on Sunday chose her 19-year-old son, Bilawal, and her husband, Asif Ali Zardari, as co-leaders of the party, the biggest and most potent in Pakistan.
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Why ??

Its very common there that political dynastys happen (bush 1 and 2.. Billary ???) in India theres still continually ghandi's namesakes in cabinets so far later.. Very often a close relative of a successful leader continues ??

I dont get why that is a WTF ??
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