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23-07-2006, 19:26
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Yes....but at 200baht IMHO your going to become pretty choosy on who ya buy a drink for if in fact you do at all.........at 100 baht you would be more inclined to just say "yeah ok"
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Yeah I think it should depend on the drink.. You cant expect a LD water to be sold the same price as a mixer or beer or a breezer or whatever she orders as the girl is getting money out of the drink cost. Fair to just add a flat rate in addition to whatever drink the girl wants.
If a cocktail normally costs 150 baht then just add 50 baht the girl gets.. If a nam som is 50 baht then its 100.. makes sense and the girl hets her cut.
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Yes livin, its a business. However, its hospitality. Its their job to be hospitable... Its my business... Or the business that i'm growing into. What i've found is that, if you offer your customer good value for money, nice atmosphere, good service and more importantly everything you offer has a consistency about it, you will have repeat customers. I am one of those people that believe the bars are for the customers benefit. But not only the customer, the bar owner/business as well. I'm a BIG believer in fairness, although i know the world is unfair, i try to make things/be as fair as i possibly can afford to be. Maybe i should have been more clear... I think drink prices should be the same for lady and customer drinks... if this was the case, the bar owner would be making less profit... but seeing as putting a lower alcohol content in lady drinks is the norm, by making prices the same between customer and lady drinks, the bar owners are not making a loss as less alcohol is used. Hence, the customer doesn't feel like he's getting ripped off/ paying extra for the company of a lady which he did not ask. He pays for a lady's vodka tonic, whiskey coke, breezer whatever it maybe for the same price as he would get his drink. Although it would be difficult to do this with breezers and bottled beers, unless someone can figure out how to filter out the alcohol and put it somewhere else 
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24-07-2006, 00:32
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Agree with LiL. I was on a business-trip to Spain in May and we went to a bar where we bought some drinks for the girls working there. They charged us 33 euro for each drink, and I think everybody was clear of that it was the company of the girls we paid for and not the drinks. I asked how much the drinks was before I said yes to pay for them, and if I didn't want to pay then I would of course had said no. My choise.So why should it be different in Thailand, and who would have paid 150 Bath for some colored water at all if it was not for the company of the girl. BTW, my wife was alone home in Norway, if I had told her about the price of the drinks I think she had freaked out.  F |
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24-07-2006, 02:05
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>>I once bought a LD in SOHO/London and had to pay 70 pound for it ... and I didn't even had the time to check if there's alcohol in it<<
One of those bars was it that has big burly bouncers that made sure you paid the 70 pounds for the small bottle of Babycham?? |
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Thats exactly what happens at Champagne and Angels - there are no 'Lady Drinks' as such - the girl gets what ever you/she wants and its the same drink as the customer gets - and 40 Bhat is added to that for her drink and this comission goes directly to her. (This is clearly stated on the menu). Both places charge the same - so no go-go premium either.
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24-07-2006, 07:25
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Because in alot of cases the bar owners pay for the ladies accomodation, plus pay wages & give them subsidised drinks & in some instances the ladies get their food paid for by the bar owner. Now before you jump on my back & say that the barfines should cover those costs........Have a think about this....It's been stated by several bm's on here that they never bf mtb girls....If this is the case, Nicke eg. is missing out on that area of income.... & by yourself & barflyrex giving the ladies cash instead of drinks, IMO that's just the same as robbing the bar & doing some guy out of a quid.......Bar owners in LOS wouldn't make the same money as you or me do back home....From what I've read on here they struggle to make ends meet. You can always say no to buying a lady drink also you have the option of drinkin at home alone where there's no ladies. To me it's all part of the show over there & it will never change. NB, the OP was referring to 200b ladydrinks......I know Nicke only charges 120b........ But I think that if these guys slip the women money at other places, then there'd be a good chance they do it at mtb Last edited by easyrider_au : 24-07-2006 at 07:28. |
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24-07-2006, 07:30
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While I'm nolonger in the bar business in Thailand, thank god really, it still annoys me alittle when people that dont know what actually goes on, say that what bars are doing is wrong and are not business orientated.
Bars have enough trouble at times just breaking even these days, without thinking about making any sort of profits. By the sounds of it most you would prefer that the bars just shutdown, as thats what would happen if they were operated in the manner that you believe.
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I didnt know this when I posted but well done.. Exactly the kind of system I think should be encouraged, fair, transparent, and good for all parties. Quote:
Exactly.. I think bar fines, lady drinks, etc.. Maybe the reason psychologically is people dont like to be reminded they are paying for company ??? However they are and these things are how the bar tries to break even and god forbid make a profit. Quote:
Thats what I was trying to say earlier.. why should a LD cost the same as a customer drink.. Way to ruin for the bar owner really. I realise that this thread is mostly about 200 baht lady drinks and that is considered a over the top / high price.. But thats the bars choice and they will either succeed or drive customers away, we have the choice of voting with our feet. But then Dingo gets knocked as thats the price of a lady cocktail but people may not think that a cocktail is 150 already and the LD component is not large. If 200 feels unfair for an orange juice type LD then dont buy them and or name and shame them and the bar will suffer through Dawinism if others agree with you. But the concept of LD's and (I know it was another thread) bar fines are just the normal way things work here and are part of the game.
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24-07-2006, 09:51
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Maybe people would feel more obliged to pay for the lady drinks if their prices for lady drinks were clearly stated on the menu like K2's place... Not only does he have a fair deal going, but its also clearly stated for all to see.
As for 70 pounds for a lady drink... Now thats a little crazy if you ask me, but then again prices in europe have been gettin a little crazy... I think bar owners must do what they have to do to keep their business alive, although the bar business is very different here in phuket due to it being a seasonal vacation spot. What would you guys think of a bar, i know it doesn't exist yet but maybe one day, that had two different drink menus, one for high season and one for low season...??? Say either they charge less for everything (drinks, lady drinks, barfines) during high season due to there being may customers, and more during low season due to less traffic... Or the otherway around... Charge a little more in high season to support your business during low season???
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24-07-2006, 10:25
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I always find the Thai way (increasing prices during low customer period) bizarre and counter productive to me.. If things are tight and theres little money about then a higher priced place is exactly the wrong thing to maintain a good customer base IMHO.
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But what about the other way around then?? Expensive in high due to increase in traffic and cheap in low to attract the customer??? Just a thought
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I've never understood this attitude of jacking up the price when there's no customers either, but TIT as Trink used to say.
On another issue - if a business (bar or otherwise) can't make enough money during the high season to sustain them through the low, or don't have enough year round income regardless of the season, then they are in the wrong game. On the matter of lady drinks - if I offer to buy one, I don't really take much notice of the price or what they get for it, but I sure notice when it's my drink! I like the sound of K2's system, that seems fair all round and, much as it sticks in my throat to say something nice about a fellow Hasher, I think he should be commended for it. Last edited by dogblower : 24-07-2006 at 11:02. |
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Ring the bell
Last time in Phuket I discovered the bell. Now with 200 bht LD's buying the 1000bht bell ring for drinks for everyone is becoming a bargan.
Plus a way to become very popular in that bar. After two rounds was getting free shots from the bar owner. Great night.I will be checking the price in the future. Thanks for the info. gym |
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“Good customer base” I think you hit the nail on the here LivinLOS, there’s nothing better for a business no matter what business it is, than the returning customer , which is basically customer loyalty, I’ve never owned or ran a bar, but like most on this forum I’ve drank in a bloody lot them, and what I’ve seen its all about bums on seats, and IMHO charging 150-200 baht lady drinks does nothing to keep those bums on seats, the bums will just take there loyalty to a bar that shows some loyalty in return. Rex |
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24-07-2006, 20:32
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Well here is something for you to mill over
FUEL PRICES 1 year ago, roughly 22 baht per litre, now 30 baht per litre By my reckoning thats a 36% increase in 1 year, but of course you wont be wanting to pay for the know effect on that Thai people are going ape shit about it and the impact right accross the board it has had but just u carry on worrying about a ladydrink at 200 baht that most thai people could never even consider afford paying That poultry 50 or whatever baht the BG gets from the LD goes toward her own running costs and her family's whose costs have went thru the roof compared to before I friggin cring sometimes so I do G |
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Street level inflation is nuts here.. Spinner is always getting in a huff in the market.. I dont pay attention but stuff like the price of eggs etc 4 baht to 6 baht (guessing there.. I really dont pay enough attention).. Thats not little % rises.
I noticed the other day that some chicken strips I buy used to be 6 baht.. Now they are 10 baht.. same for sala bou.. thats a 66% increase !! Guiy teow soup.. Used to be 20 baht now 30 (50% increase).. Market fish, prawns etc.. I should have paid more attention to what prices were so I could estimate how things are rising but rising and fast they definately are.
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55555 Believe me easyrider that could be no further than the truth, when in full fright in thailand I throw money around like theres no tomorrow. Three months back, me and a mate brought 64 ladys drinks in 1 night at Beach club agogo.....and that was the cheapest part of the night.  Im just saying 200baht for a ladys drink is to much. IMHO. Ill even buy you a few ladys drinks in the mai tai bar if we ever meet up........thats if there not 200baht each of corse. Barflyrex |
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OK we've discussed it from the perception of the punter and the bar owner, what about the poor girl who has to drink this muck?
She gets paid commission to get you to buy lady drinks, and little else. While she's there she will play stupid games with you, engage you in conversation, keep the bar tidy, order your drinks, empty your ashtray, etc. Now, I don't know how much of the tip goes to the b/gs or whether this is a perk for the staff; but, as I understand it, tipping is not normally a part of Thai culture, so she probably see's her commission as her tip. In countries where the tipping culture is better established, a waiter/waitress earns a lot more in tips than their salary, especially if they are good at their job. A bar/restaurant that is renowned for big tippers will get the best staff to work for it. Maybe, just maybe, this is what the manager of that particular bar was aiming for. I am no expert in the matter, I was just trying to get a handle on another viewpoint.
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What is the size of the beer glasses? 25 cl? 33 cl? or 50 cl?
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