Ever any truth in a sea of lies?

[bentarm44]

Being two times divorced has left me somewhat damaged goods, mentally and financially; and I'm as cynical as the next bm about the things tg's say to half drunk farangs.
Most of the bull shit is so easy to spot it's actually comical; which is the way it should be. I'm in the process of renewing my stable right now, some of the old rides have been easy to drop. One I should have got rid of before now! The one that's prompted this post is exceptional in many ways, to me, and has not put a foot wrong so far.
Would it just be self flattery of the most stupid kind to actually believe a word, or is there any way of spotting the truth in these situations.
Sorry if this question annoys too many people, god knows it seems to be impossible to ever know when a woman, any woman, lies to a bloke; any bloke!

Take it easy, but take it.

[ub2yoo]

Originally Posted by bentarm44

Being two times divorced has left me somewhat damaged goods, mentally and financially; and I'm as cynical as the next bm about the things tg's say to half drunk farangs.
Most of the bull shit is so easy to spot it's actually comical; which is the way it should be. I'm in the process of renewing my stable right now, some of the old rides have been easy to drop. One I should have got rid of before now! The one that's prompted this post is exceptional in many ways, to me, and has not put a foot wrong so far.
Would it just be self flattery of the most stupid kind to actually believe a word, or is there any way of spotting the truth in these situations.
Sorry if this question annoys too many people, god knows it seems to be impossible to ever know when a woman, any woman, lies to a bloke; any bloke!

Take it easy, but take it.

Difficult question. In my opionion there are only 2 ways to find out:

- Cut if off immidiately, without thinking twice. That's what most ppl tell
- Go with it and learn along the way. There's always a small chance you met an honest person.

I think since you are divorced twice already and still don't know when a woman lies to you, there's no way someone else can tell you I say that embrassed because I never been married and you've got more experience than me.

Question is, are you a player ?

[Hobbsy]

I like this post.
No way to spot the thruth and no point worrying about it. Just enjoy this "exceptional woman" while you can.

[whuakito]

don't even think about it ,the sea is so huge that none of us can swim in it.been divorced once,and about to get married again.can't bothered with it.

[K2]

Hope this maybe of interest and relevance - its a very long submission to Sickman by a guy whose had very long term experiences in Thailand going back 30 years. I think its definelty worth reading (all 19k words of it) but so much insight is worth a little effort.

http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/Reader/reader1803.htm

[Pad Mc]

Originally Posted by bentarm44

Being two times divorced has left me somewhat damaged goods, mentally and financially; and I'm as cynical as the next bm about the things tg's say to half drunk farangs.
Most of the bull shit is so easy to spot it's actually comical; which is the way it should be. I'm in the process of renewing my stable right now, some of the old rides have been easy to drop. One I should have got rid of before now! The one that's prompted this post is exceptional in many ways, to me, and has not put a foot wrong so far.
Would it just be self flattery of the most stupid kind to actually believe a word, or is there any way of spotting the truth in these situations.
Sorry if this question annoys too many people, god knows it seems to be impossible to ever know when a woman, any woman, lies to a bloke; any bloke!

Take it easy, but take it.

Hello bentarm44.

I read this quote the other day and I was going to use it in another thread thats active....

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."
...George Orwell




I think it may have a better home here...

Good Luck &


Pad

[Crustasian]

It's all part of the game.Back home,in our own country we have all lied about our home,job,or salary to score.

What is different out here when you receive our own style of bullshit being delivered to us by a willing girl.

Now adays I just feel flattered that they speak to me.

[cybernator_uk]

I suppose it depends what you mean by the truth... If a BG tells you that you are handsome man then are they being honest or are they talking crap. You will never knowfor sure but then "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" Maybe she generally does think you are despite what you think. Maybe she doesnt... Who cares Enjoy the compliments..... and dont fall in love that night Seriously Life is a game play it and see. Just try not to get to emotionaly attached really quick.

Thats just my 2 cents

[urtheman]

For me it's the level and severity of the lie.

One that's very severe would be, that's a level 9 lie
Question: Do you have any kids?
Lie: NO

Question: Did you have a good time in bed with me?
Lie: Yes you are the best man for me.
Level one lie, not severe.

Question: Have you ever been a man or one right now?
Lie: NO
Level 10 lie very severe

Question: I just gave you 5,000 two days ago for shopping where have you spent it?
Lie: I go wit friend, friend need money for room rent I give friend money.
Level 5 lie

So I guess you have to balance the severity of the lie. These were lies that have been told to me by friends that live here on the island.

No girl I've met here has ever lied to me

[Crustasian]

Originally Posted by cybernator_uk

I suppose it depends what you mean by the truth... If a BG tells you that you are handsome man then are they being honest or are they talking crap. You will never knowfor sure but then "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" Maybe she generally does think you are despite what you think. Maybe she doesnt... Who cares Enjoy the compliments..... and dont fall in love that night Seriously Life is a game play it and see. Just try not to get to emotionaly attached really quick.

Thats just my 2 cents

Could not resist it.

BEAUTY IS IN THE EYES OF THE WALLET HOLDER.

[DaveRetiring]

Originally Posted by bentarm44

is there any way of spotting the truth in these situations.

I can't help with the detecting lies part, but having been divorced 4 times, I have finally figured it out, I think. Just go with the flow. Invest as little hard currency into the venture until after a good deal of time, say 12 months. Don't be in a rush, to impress or commit to an engagement or a marriage.

I know we all get the urge to say "I love you" but you need to quell that until you are totally, totally comfortable with the person.

My advice, is take full advantage of this good situation, commit to nothing and just see. If I were you, I would fling myself towards the relationship wholeheartedly and that brings me to a troubling part of your stated situation.

You say you are "trimming the stable." That does not make a good basis to start a relationship. You are going to have to show enthusiasm for the relationship and that means ONE ON ONE only. If you expect to develop and maintain a stable relationship, then any more than ONE girl in the stable will have YOU lying, first to yourself and then to the very special girl.

Hate to quote a movie, but "do, or do not, there is no try."

If maintaining a reduced stable is the better option for you then forget about lies and relationships. Just enjoy the bountiful harvest LOS provides.

Dave

[ub2yoo]

Originally Posted by DaveRetiring

You say you are "trimming the stable." That does not make a good basis to start a relationship. You are going to have to show enthusiasm for the relationship and that means ONE ON ONE only. If you expect to develop and maintain a stable relationship, then any more than ONE girl in the stable will have YOU lying, first to yourself and then to the very special girl.

Hate to quote a movie, but "do, or do not, there is no try."

If Bentarm really ment this by saying "trimming the stable" then this is a very good post and you can read between the lines

I would not have spotted this at first glance.

[Dodger]

Originally Posted by cybernator_uk

I suppose it depends what you mean by the truth... If a BG tells you that you are handsome man then are they being honest or are they talking crap.)

This is a level 10 lie or they need glasses!!! if its the latter then I of course tell them they are right!!!

[bentarm44]

Thanks for all the great replies bm's. The result of my generalisation brought in some left field comments that I hadn't even thought of. The tg in question is not all sweet mouth, and that makes her more believable to me. That story will run for longer.
To get to the point of my title for this post:
As I said, yesterday it was time to try a new one; one I'd lined up allready actually.
Not a bg, and that's all I'm saying.
After the first time, (bonus points on that were, she had typical tg breasts; but I'd found another one with the huge nips ) I thought I heard her say to me I was the first man she'd had sex with in nearly a year.

Wot the fuk!!

I stopped what I was doing , and asked her to repeat what she'd just said; and out it came again.

This MUST be such a huge LIE that why would any tg even bother to say it?

I had to ask her why: her boy friend left her after a bad child birth thing left her not able to have sex for several months. This actually happened to my second wife; so could be true; I guess. Then said she'd not wanted sex after all the pain and break up; or some thing like that.
She also has the "only been here from Issan 2 months" thing going. That in itself is almost a classic, in so far as it's probably true; but if it aint.....

So, in a nut-shell; why would any tg bother to tell a farang she's only known a few days that he's just been her first in 10 months.

Unbe-Fugin_lievable!!!

Take it easy, but take it

[Mai Chob]

Hey Bentarm, we met at the MT, hows the boats goin? Heres my 2 bobs worth.I take it your not paying her so you are further up the food chain (maybe )than Ive progressed ! I would assume that the implication is that she doesnt have to tell you anything (tho weve all had 1 night stands wherein the girl says "I havent ever done this on the 1st night before.." Yeh sure you havent, neither have I !...555) which is a plus.But lots of women think they add value to themselves by understating their sexual experiences too. BIG NIPPLES ARE A BIGGER PLUS, they usually enlarge as they have more kids (not just from us sucking them) and the child will soon be evident.. BUT in the end its a matter of how much you like her.If you really do , then keep going...ina place like Thailand its right to question but dont let it spoil the fun and as cybe says, take your time.....( go on dates , see if she has all the other things you want in a woman.These Thai chicks give us what we usually have to wait a while for and it really does our heads in and we stop being so choosey) I LIKE THIS THREAD TOO..

[cybernator_uk]

Originally Posted by Dodger

This is a level 10 lie or they need glasses!!! if its the latter then I of course tell them they are right!!!

I tend to believe them.... Even if the scales and the mirror tell me otherwise

[bentarm44]

I'm still giving her cash; even though she say's "up 2 u". Kind of makes it easier for me in some ways.
As a result of the last couple of days, I've decided that it doesn't matter what any of them tell me now; I won't be able to believe it!!
Seems a bit sad in some ways-- we are all as much damaged goods as each other.
The big picture for any tg/bg seems to be the money, then the money, and thirdly the money. They will say and do anything, no matter how crazy and ridiculous it looks to them or us; to get the bhat in.
They tell me that they know farang like/want sex a lot; and that if a tg provides that, she can get on the gravy train.

I suspose this is all true, mabe the only truth we are ever going to get!

I'm honest with them about being a butterfly, so I wish they wouldn't insist I'm their only boyfriend; just a bit annoying.

I'm going to Christines tonight, partly for the no-brainer aspect; and partly 'cas I love it!!

Take it easy, but take it.

[Latino4life]

Good question, I doubt there is any way to find out if a chick is bullshiting or not if she among the lies sneak a bit of truth as well. I would never thought it would happen to me but I was played as well hahaha nevertheless it was fun and at the moment I see it as the first half of the game, if there will be a second period it memains to be seen. I still really don't get how a guy can be a player...? I get that the absolute vast majority of the chicks are fishing for several sponsors and that makes them players, how we farangs play??

Anyway, some liars may be almost impossible to spot as many are not just street smart but also intelligent. Personally I never believe the words and relay only on the actions even so I was to be played since for every word comming from her sweet little mouth there was an action backing up the words. The "I love you" didn't come right away, she was able to discuss and explain to me in order to ease every single one of my doubts and even after months she remembered every single thing we did and said to each other from the first night which she used as assuring arguments to gain more trust. I really must handle it to her that the whole strategy she used was simply brilliant and I should also add in my favour that my technique to get her to admit the truth was maybe even more brilliant. So simple yet so effective.

[Mai Chob]

Mai Chob ... Bentarm (good name!) my PC said u sent a private reply but my filters wouldnt let it thru.. no worries...I have had 9 visits to LOS and either have been really lucky or Im just a bit harder about all this.We have been thru a number of relationships by now and realise that ALL women lie, (all men do to) but men (well most like u and I) r a little more Careful about the LOVE saying thing.... and we should be careful about women who say it nit noy early.I think we falang have been conditioned to equte sex with love too much and the Thai are not...just enjoy her while u can and let her flick u, by trying not payin her anymore... but tell her 1st. If she flys she wasnt yours anyway. I want to Know how Latino wins the day over a thai ?????? Dean

[uglyfuzzface]

just been talking to my thai lady on the phone and we were talking about this kind of thing .....anyway she told me that she does not lie but sometimes she doesnt tell the truth ....ha ha ha nothing i could say ..