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18-10-2006, 04:51
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New disco in Patong?
New discotheque opens in november on 39/1 Bangla Road, is it next to Tiger complex? Any news?
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18-10-2006, 09:43
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Looks like it will be on Soi Boxing.. Probably the space above Angels, Cocktails and Dreams, etc..
Claim to be making a club of it.. Will be worth watching.
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Great !! Only 9 months late and I certainly hope its a success - bring more action into Happy Road .. run by Finnish group with a lot of experince in Europe.
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18-10-2006, 10:38
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Good stuff, just in time for my trip.
I will be ready to cut some moves on the dancefloor!
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18-10-2006, 11:29
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Great !! Only 9 months late and I certainly hope its a success - bring more action into Happy Road .. run by Finnish group with a lot of experince in Europe.
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Kev, I remember about 3 months ago you took us up to look at this place and although cannot remember now you told me then the monthly lease payment, how with that cost and the obvious massive start up costs can they hope to make this place pay????
Just an aside Junceylon is starting to look good and even looks like it will be on schedule for the opening!!!
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18-10-2006, 13:10
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I talked to a guy from Finland who read about it in a finnish newspaper and asked me if I knew the location only few says ago. Althought he said back in Finland their clubs used to be expensive.
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18-10-2006, 22:34
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Kev, I remember about 3 months ago you took us up to look at this place and although cannot remember now you told me then the monthly lease payment, how with that cost and the obvious massive start up costs can they hope to make this place pay????
Just an aside Junceylon is starting to look good and even looks like it will be on schedule for the opening!!!
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I hope so - something to look forward to when I come back ..... although I have heard that they intend it being 'up market' - 300 Bhat beers and no FL's - that model so far has not worked in Patong, but if IndoChine and other Singapore Clubs are comming to Jung Ceylon the standard of club life in Patong is about to take a great leap forward - maybe they will ahve to bank roll the place for a year or so to get established but can only be seen as a positive to the advancement of options available for us all.
This is the holding company website....
SK Ravintolat
Be interested to know from Fins or others in their thoughts on this project.
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19-10-2006, 02:49
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300 baht for a beer, no FLs? Not exactly a cheap charlie mongering venue. I may consider taking my custom elsewhere 
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I hope so - something to look forward to when I come back ..... although I have heard that they intend it being 'up market' - 300 Bhat beers and no FL's - that model so far has not worked in Patong, but if IndoChine and other Singapore Clubs are comming to Jung Ceylon the standard of club life in Patong is about to take a great leap forward - maybe they will ahve to bank roll the place for a year or so to get established but can only be seen as a positive to the advancement of options available for us all.
This is the holding company website....
SK Ravintolat
Be interested to know from Fins or others in their thoughts on this project.
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thats exactly the way to look at it. i love hanging out at MTB and Love Bar, but i to like nights out that i feel like im at a place more like home
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With the exception of a quick look in Tai Pan, I haven't visited a disco/club in Patong yet  . This one looks like it has the makings of a decent place.
Hope the high overheads don't kill it before it starts to make money.
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While it is a great thing for Patong to start having new ideas being developed, I really dont think that Patong is anywhere near supporting bars/night clubs of such high caliber. Maybe during the short high season, but otherwise I doubt it.
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19-10-2006, 07:25
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I have to say that if they keep the girls out then I think they will be empty.. And 300 baht beers is probably over the pain threashold of many..
I am hopeful for a better club scene but dont think exclusive is the way to go.. How about starting from the basics, first good proper DJ's that can beatmix international recent tunes.. Get a proper sound established, make it a definate dance club and not a meat market and that could well get the girls loving the place to be more fun.. Get the 'fun' aspect right and everything else clicks.
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I have to say that if they keep the girls out then I think they will be empty.. And 300 baht beers is probably over the pain threashold of many..
I am hopeful for a better club scene but dont think exclusive is the way to go.. How about starting from the basics, first good proper DJ's that can beatmix international recent tunes.. Get a proper sound established, make it a definate dance club and not a meat market and that could well get the girls loving the place to be more fun.. Get the 'fun' aspect right and everything else clicks.
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agreed LiL.....300bht beers + no FLs  ......c'mon that aint gonna last
even if they attracted most holidaying falang couples + chicks + the younger more hip musically aware guys on the scene each night......I doubt whether it would pull through financially.......
and how do you police FL's.....sure you can charge an exhorbitant door charge and give the local gals no concesions so they can't afford to get in.....but who is gonna drink the 300bht beers if there isn't the chance to latch onto a gal.........??????
No ones gonna pay 300bht a drink to sit around watching guys dance with themselves..........heck if that's what you are after try soi paradise.....i'm sure its cheaper.. 
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19-10-2006, 10:07
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While it is a great thing for Patong to start having new ideas being developed, I really dont think that Patong is anywhere near supporting bars/night clubs of such high caliber. Maybe during the short high season, but otherwise I doubt it.
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Well i don't know how much they would be paying in rent and with the risk of making as **** out of myself i'm under the assumption that the rent would be ridiculously high. Then 300 bht beers plus no FL's.... Ummm so who is going to go to this type of place??? Without the girls they won't having the guys buying drinks in there... Might end up becoming like "Home bar" Nice bar, no girls and hence no customers... Have to completely agree with Lil and Nels. and to go back on Stevem's point... Even if they had girls, it would be interesting to see if they could survive the low season...
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19-10-2006, 10:17
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Will be interesting to see the outcome of this. I have a gf and dont mind the lack of FL, if they have have quality of light and sound. I dont like Tiger disco as its so packed and crowded and you can barely move inside.
New ideas is welcome and with families and couples being the biggest tourist group, it could work. But I also think the risk is high that the place will be empty, upmarket and high quality dont seems to work in Patong.
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19-10-2006, 10:23
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New ideas is welcome and with families and couples being the biggest tourist group, it could work. But I also think the risk is high that the place will be empty, upmarket and high quality dont seems to work in Patong.
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Exactly, just take a look at La Baia.
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19-10-2006, 10:28
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Yes, and Home Bar. Home Bar is still a very nice place but they dont have many customers. But the location isnt the best one either, same for La Baia.
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Exactly, just take a look at La Baia.
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Yes, and Home Bar. Home Bar is still a very nice place but they dont have many customers. But the location isnt the best one either, same for La Baia.
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Yeah home bar is tucked away down a little soi, forget the name. But if you're walking up bangla from beach rd there's no way anyone will make it to home bar... Too much temptation along the way... As for La baia i think they get the hotel traffic from time to time maybe. I've been to Home bar once (when i first arrived) there was only an elderly couple and the owner (forget his name, but remember was an aussie) and La Baia i've been to twice and both times i was the only one in there...
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The manager of La Baia is also a member here, or ex manager I should say. He quit and is having a month holiday here before he go to Bangkok to work for a newly open pub on two floors close to Nana Plaza.
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Yeah home bar is tucked away down a little soi, forget the name. But if you're walking up bangla from beach rd there's no way anyone will make it to home bar... Too much temptation along the way... As for La baia i think they get the hotel traffic from time to time maybe. I've been to Home bar once (when i first arrived) there was only an elderly couple and the owner (forget his name, but remember was an aussie) and La Baia i've been to twice and both times i was the only one in there...
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firstly - the one thing I do not miss about 'back home' is nightclubs that think they are high class joints. So i am gonna have a rant...
1) fvck any sort of dress code or door policy - it was so refreshing to come here and go out anywhere you like without some neanderthal telling you "jeans are allowed but yours are too blue" or "those look like trainers to me" or "shirt needs a proper collar"
2) high end joints get off on having a big queue of punters waiting to get in to their 'exclusive' establishment....fvck that.
3) Paying to get in with no drink offers (Don't mind paying to see a good DJ but not just to get in a place).
4) Queing at the bar for 20 minutes to buy an overpriced drink. The real queue in these places is in the toilets of course where it looks like it has been snowing
5) No FLs. How exactly are they going to determine this anyway? They will be there....just better dressed and more expensive and probably Russian  .
6) All attitude no atmosphere. As LiL and others pointed out - up-to-date DJs playing to people who like good dance music is worth a thousand places where everyone stands around posing with their bottles of 'Crystal'.
I welcome new choices but remember too many bad things from high-calibre clubs. They were always empty a few months later when a newer more exclusive club opened down the road. Then all the pretentions were lost and they were begging to get you in handing out phtocopied flyers with free drink tokens. LOL
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the club i wanna see here is all painted black inside, low ceiling with sweat dripping off it, 30 megastrobes and a fvck off laser and a thousand goggle-eyed loons avin it!
/me loses plot.
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mmmmmmmmmmmm interesting stuff
Its a pity we cant get a hold of stats about the average spend of couples and families and especially where they spend it and where they come from - a bit of customer profiling
My feel is, the single guys are the big spenders in patong and they are the driving force in the local economy dictating demand and thus the type of supply i.e. cheap cheesy discos and cheap beer bars
I suspect the majority of other groups hail from Asia (there are stats on this deffo - i have them) especially Taiwan, China, Japan, Korea etc.......... u do see some Aus families who use phuket as a sub for Bali........................but a nice meal at the hotel or round about, a few beers and a little voyeur trip is the order of the day
Its yet to be seen how Juncelyon or upmarket establishments will change the landscape of the economy in terms of changing the current customer profile. It might just be the case it will give them somewhere to go etc..........
Time will tell
If you look at say BKK (not the best example) but the beer bar crowd seems to be able to live in harmony with the big shopping malls and higher class entertainment places
maybe thats why this board is changing as well with a more family and couple and less single guy atitude etc
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