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When I was in Phuket I always stayed with a girl that I met in Samui.She invited me to visit her in Patong.I stayed there regulary at my visits, when I came I just put some money in a drawer of her cupboard.We seperated for other reasons than "BG"-reasons.Just found out that we didn´t match together.
Her room was at Nanai road in an appartement complex.Even a farang lived there.Some ladies shared rooms together, some were living together with their Thai husbands and regular workers were living there, too.
Her appartement was really nice and clean.After the entrance there was the living room with a sofa,TV and DVD-player.She had sideboards,a locker and a coffeetable as furniture, even a carpet there.Then there was a second room, the bedroom with a king size bed, a wardrobe and a dressing table.It´s not been high-class and also a bit old, but I´ve seen a lot worse in Asia.Down the lea there was the tiled bathroom with shower,basin and "farang" (not French) toilet.Next to the bath there was the Kitchen with a fridge and the cooking burner.All in all very nice for 3700 Baht/month including electricity.
My wife stayed in a small room with toilet and basin for 2800 Baht/month with electricity.She just moved in there when I met her.Didnt stay long there by the way either 
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Policeman 5k per month starting up to 12k per month (before bribes)
Massage girl I was talking to reckons about 60k per month giving extras..
I wonder how many policemen secretly wish they could do massage
I know one Kebsapian massage lady who cleared 1,000,000baht in a year....some donated by me. She would usually make 3 or 4000 a day in the shop (sometimes more) and then get a guy in the Tiger afyter midnight. She peaked at having 5 sponsors on the go at the same time.
Here's another for the list...
Dragon Club waitress 4.5k per month plus tips and drinks commission.
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my gf will make 15k at her bar with salary and drink commisions
she does well at her bar and she can come and go as she pleases
but i want her to get a job that she can learn from
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Policeman 5k per month starting up to 12k per month (before bribes)
Massage girl I was talking to reckons about 60k per month giving extras..
I wonder how many policemen secretly wish they could do massage
I know one Kebsapian massage lady who cleared 1,000,000baht in a year....some donated by me. She would usually make 3 or 4000 a day in the shop (sometimes more) and then get a guy in the Tiger afyter midnight. She peaked at having 5 sponsors on the go at the same time.
Here's another for the list...
Dragon Club waitress 4.5k per month plus tips and drinks commission.
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Saw first hand at NEP policemen grabbing girls and then letting them go if they paid them so baht.... I guess they know most of those girls make alot more than them..
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HI all,
Am new here and just joined the forum. Cool thread. I have just returned from a month in Thailand, boy what a fab time. Been there before, but this trip was a rollercoaster of a fun time.
Believe me, being back in the cold, damp and windy winter conditions of the UK is not where I wish to be.
I met up with a really cute young lady when I was in Patong, had to go north for a week for a friends wedding in Chiang Mai but when I got back to Patong, I caught up with my lady once more and spent the remaining ten days with her.
Like many of you have said, she too lives in a single roomed complex of Nanai road with two other girls from her bar. They pay 3000 baht a month between them and again it is very clean and tidy, considering. Cooking facilities is outside, but adequate for their needs.
All 3 of them work at the same bar but only my young lady effectively is a BG, the other two being the cashier and the accountant for the bar. Mine earnt a daily wage of 300 baht with added commissions from LDs and obviously whatever she earns from customers, which I would hazard would be quite a lot, as she is a very beautiful and fun oving girl.
I know over the two to three weeks that I was with her, she was very well looked after and from what she told me during the high season, she can earn around 25,000 a month.
Must admit, although the sexual side of life is a little daunting I'm sure, for them, the closeness and friendship between these girls is second to none and they all look after one another, just wish I was still there.
Planning to get back around April or May and maybe start looking for a bar to buy myself.
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11-12-2006, 03:52
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Planning to get back around April or May and maybe start looking for a bar to buy myself.
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Welcome Viper
Would suggest you do quite a bit of reading on buying a bar they aren't the gold mine you might think. You will need another form of income as well.
Plenty of info on this board about it.
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HI all,
Am new here and just joined the forum. Cool thread. I have just returned from a month in Thailand, boy what a fab time. Been there before, but this trip was a rollercoaster of a fun time.
Believe me, being back in the cold, damp and windy winter conditions of the UK is not where I wish to be.
I met up with a really cute young lady when I was in Patong, had to go north for a week for a friends wedding in Chiang Mai but when I got back to Patong, I caught up with my lady once more and spent the remaining ten days with her.
Like many of you have said, she too lives in a single roomed complex of Nanai road with two other girls from her bar. They pay 3000 baht a month between them and again it is very clean and tidy, considering. Cooking facilities is outside, but adequate for their needs.
All 3 of them work at the same bar but only my young lady effectively is a BG, the other two being the cashier and the accountant for the bar. Mine earnt a daily wage of 300 baht with added commissions from LDs and obviously whatever she earns from customers, which I would hazard would be quite a lot, as she is a very beautiful and fun oving girl.
I know over the two to three weeks that I was with her, she was very well looked after and from what she told me during the high season, she can earn around 25,000 a month.
Must admit, although the sexual side of life is a little daunting I'm sure, for them, the closeness and friendship between these girls is second to none and they all look after one another, just wish I was still there.
Planning to get back around April or May and maybe start looking for a bar to buy myself.
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you said she earned a daily wage of 300baht
was that from LD's or a salary
thats a really high salry if it is
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12-12-2006, 02:56
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you said she earned a daily wage of 300baht
was that from LD's or a salary
thats a really high salry if it is
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If I understand Viper well, her basic salary is 300 Baht and in addition her commission on ladydrinks etc.
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12-12-2006, 03:27
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If I understand Viper well, her basic salary is 300 Baht and in addition her commission on ladydrinks etc.
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900 baht is a really high salary for a bar
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Yes a really good thread guys, we don`t realise sometimes how lucky we are in The West. I was averaging 7500 per day from atm without hotel costs and the average wage is around 5000 per month  The guys and gals on those building sites really have it rough. I used to enjoy going to tg`s loom and chillin a while. They were always happy you went with them to see.
Sometimes wondered though if they`re playing the sympathy card tho 
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Hi guys,
Marc26, yeah, her basic daily wage was (is) 300 baht per day. obviously if she brings any custom to the bar and has drinks bought for her, then she will earn a little from that too. By my reckoning if she only worked on her salary, with no extras, tips or male company, she would be earning 1500 pounds a year????
It may sound like a lot for a BG in Patong but like the owner told me, he only employs 3 full time BG's all the rest are freelance, and as he also said, the lady I spent my time with was also one of his top customer attracters, as she is very very beautiful - not that that sounds good from my part, I guess.
Is crazy really,
and yeah Staffshot, she also took me back to her loom on a couple of occasions, and I felt really humbled, but as you say, maybe it's all part of the thais secret weapon arsenal of getting you to feel sympathy for them?
I am still in shock at the sheer beauty of some of these girls, and trying to get my head around what they do for a living - and on a daily basis - I know it is no different from a prostitute in Amsterdam or London, New York - anywhere really, but in a sense they are a lot more than that because these girls actually spend time with you, in some instances days or even weeks and no sooner have you waved goodbye as your getting into the taxi, to take you to the airport and you know they will be heading home to change and get back to their bar for work that night....... I know it's their life and their jobs but the sheer mental concept of being able to switch straight off from one person and start all over again within hours is beyond me.
Still, they have my vote, all the ones I have met were all very nice, polite and friendly girls - and I am not meaning I went with them all....
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i have never heard of a girl getting much more than 5k per month for salary
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12-12-2006, 05:33
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Must admit,
I found it a litle over the top when I was told, but the owner himself confirmed it. Mind you if one looks at the manner in which, like he himself told me, the bar fine covers her daily wage and leaves him a couple of hundred baht per night in profit, and especially if she is as sought after as it very much appeared she was - I guess the owner can feel a little bit generous with her as if she is with someone all month - even without her working, the owner has made around a hundred quid sheer profit for himself, after her basic wage?
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I am still in shock at the sheer beauty of some of these girls, and trying to get my head around what they do for a living - and on a daily basis - I know it is no different from a prostitute in Amsterdam or London, New York - anywhere really, but in a sense they are a lot more than that because these girls actually spend time with you, in some instances days or even weeks and no sooner have you waved goodbye as your getting into the taxi, to take you to the airport and you know they will be heading home to change and get back to their bar for work that night...
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Being from Holland and being able to compare the "Dutch scene" with the BG world, I think there is a big difference. Part of this you already mentioned. A Thai BG spend a lot of time with you and to a certain extend gives you a nice evening, night and wake up call. If you and her click, then you enjoy yourself together with her during your whole stay. Sure you pay for her company and services, but that is peanuts compared to here.
The average prostitute in Holland charges you about € 50.00 for one shot and some "distant affection". The average time of your stay is then around 15-20 minutes. Of course there are good ones and bad ones. Same for the BG's, as often mentioned on this forum.
Then we have the Thai massage Salons here, where in my view, the treatment you get by the lady is somewhere in the middle. Average price around € 65.00 per hour incl. hj.
My conclusion is that I prefer the BG way of working by far over the scene in the western world. As you could read before, my last trip gave me much more insight and I really respect the way the average BG lives and work. And above all give us guys a good time for a reasonable (read: cheap) price.
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Thats not taking into account the kind of relative money though is it ??
Lets say base salary here (police / factory work) could be 4 - 6k and a gogo girl can ask as much as 2k in a night..
Then a Policeman / basic worker in Europe before tax money.. 2k Euro per month ?? Maybe even closer to 3k before taxes.
So now go get an escort or pay a girl 500 Euro for a nights companionship.. With the idea you might do that daily for extended periods of weeks.. See how much attention they give you and how close they stick to you..
Its more simply relative wealth and how much they are getting IMO...
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Good point, well presented - yeah, when you look at it that way, it does sort of explain a few things.
I must admit though, I do prefer to have a young lady for the 'Long Time' opposed to simply one night - it always makes me feel very sleezy when you have to pay them in the morning and ask them to leave - even though I know they are more than used to it and probably quite cool about it.
I prefer to check a few places out over a couple of days and not rush into finding a girl until I have met her a couple of times and chatted a bit, then if she is still free after a couple of nights, and I like her, I'll ask her if she would like to hang out with us while I'm over - maybe it's just me but I feel better about doing it that way and it doesn't feel as if it's a simple case of wham bam thank you mam - but no if this was happening back home, I don't think I would be paying the sort of fees you noted, even for short time.
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my gf will make 15k at her bar with salary and drink commisions
she does well at her bar and she can come and go as she pleases
but i want her to get a job that she can learn from
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Does she also go with guys that you know of?
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LivinLOS
Good point, well presented - yeah, when you look at it that way, it does sort of explain a few things.
I must admit though, I do prefer to have a young lady for the 'Long Time' opposed to simply one night - it always makes me feel very sleezy when you have to pay them in the morning and ask them to leave - even though I know they are more than used to it and probably quite cool about it.
I prefer to check a few places out over a couple of days and not rush into finding a girl until I have met her a couple of times and chatted a bit, then if she is still free after a couple of nights, and I like her, I'll ask her if she would like to hang out with us while I'm over - maybe it's just me but I feel better about doing it that way and it doesn't feel as if it's a simple case of wham bam thank you mam - but no if this was happening back home, I don't think I would be paying the sort of fees you noted, even for short time.
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Actually, If you look at LIL's numbers, it makes perfect sense. You prefer to have a lady LT, but it probably would not be so hard to find a LT lady in England at those kind of numbers. If the average Thai wage is 6000 and a BG makes 60,000, then she is making 10 times the average wage, If the average wage in Europe is 2500 Euro, and you were to pay a girl 25,000 Euro($33,000 USD, 17,000 pounds sterling) to spend every evening, night, and morning with you there, I suspect you would have no shortage of takers. You could go around to all the massage parlors, check out all the ******s on line and in the papers, chat them up all you like a few times, then offer the one you like best $33,000 for the month LT, and see what she says!! I suspect plenty of them would go for it!
Of course, you haven't got that kind of money. But, for the guy who does, the world is his oyster. And when we go to LOS, that is the kind of money that we are throwing around, relative to wages there, when we pay a girl 2000 Baht for LT, which is the current going rate in BKK, with the stunners pulling a bit more(3000) in most cases. For $50, 000/mo(relative equivalent of 3000 Baht daily per mo), I suspect you could have your pick of many of the girls at a modeling agency, real stunners!!
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Funny you agree with me.. I thought I remember talking about this exact topic before you you being adamant that the numbers were way off (relative cost of LT GFE being similar)..
Anyway glad you have come round to my way of thinking 
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Of course, you haven't got that kind of money. But, for the guy who does, the world is his oyster. And when we go to LOS, that is the kind of money that we are throwing around, relative to wages there, when we pay a girl 2000 Baht for LT, which is the current going rate in BKK, with the stunners pulling a bit more(3000) in most cases. For $50, 000/mo(relative equivalent of 3000 Baht daily per mo), I suspect you could have your pick of many of the girls at a modeling agency, real stunners!!
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I do. 555555
I believe, that you usually, get what you pay for!
But, I wouldn't/couldn't pay that every day.
On occasion...I don't mind spending 6000, or 7000thb...for an evening with a, "model" quality, stunner.
In BKK, their are numerous "escort" services, that offer really beautiful ladies, for ST/LT. And, you don't have to go muck around NEP...they come right to your door! (just once in a while)
It doesn't (break) me...and they are very, very happy.
And, they make me happy, in exchange.
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Does she also go with guys that you know of?
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i believe she doesnt go with guys, but you never know
in phuket, i have alot of friends that see her everynight
she now lives in BKK, so couldnt tell ya, but i have trust in her
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i believe she doesnt go with guys, but you never know
in phuket, i have alot of friends that see her everynight
she now lives in BKK, so couldnt tell ya, but i have trust in her
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Lives in BKK and works in a ladybar. That's good trust man. Think I would get eaten up by jealousy if I was wanting to make some serious commitment to a girl, but fair play to you.
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Lives in BKK and works in a ladybar. That's good trust man. Think I would get eaten up by jealousy if I was wanting to make some serious commitment to a girl, but fair play to you.
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no, she use to work in a beer bar in soi eric in phuket
now lives in BKK
her friends were FL's at all the usual bg haunts(gulliver's, beergarden, nana disco)
so she went out there alot, gulliver's being her favorite and didnt bother me an ounce
ive known her for 3 years and if i cant trust her by now, then no use being with her
shes a good kid
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