Freebies

[Butterfly_guy]

I normally have no problems paying for girls and i am usually overly generous if i like the girl, but sometimes my ego dictates that i go fish for freebies. And its pretty fun to.

After a few trips to Thailand I'm pretty good at getting a freebies from girls. Usually i go to one of the nightclubs and play the clueless good-guy tourist. The one that supposedly doesn't know 99% of the girls are working girls.
I talk to them like i would, flirting with any western girl, and casually ask them where they are from and what they do for a living. (lol) Some will take the opportunity to fabricate a story hoping to lure me in, making me believe they are something else. I pretend to believe. I obviously stay clear from talking about money of any sort and buy a few drinks. yadda yada yadda we go my hotel where i do the shy guy routine before doing her. I fake some after-play where i look at her with dreamy eyes and say sweet (banal) things.

In the morning i keep pretending for a while until she tiers and wants to go home. I take her number and don't call back. Unless of course i do like her and want another freebie.

You'd be surprised as to how many girls will let you get away with it if they think you are a shoe in for a boyfriend or something.

Remember they'd do the same to you.

Happy hunting.

[seafox]

So I guess saving the 1000 baht and having her go hungry for the day is important to you. Forcing her to go get money from her friends so that she can eat or going to a restaurant that know her and let her eat there when she does not have money since they know and trust her to pay for it when she gets money from the next guy.

Liitle hint, they stick around waiting for you to do the right thing and put some money in their purse.

This subject has been brought up numerous times and will always elicit the same response from me and lots of other BM's.

Glad that it makes you happy when she can't pay the rent because of the game that you played on her.

[whuakito]

it's strange how things change. well done BG you got the prize

[Izzy]

Its one thing to be upfront with a girl and let her know you dont intend on paying and she can then decide if she still wants to go with you or not.....

its very different however if your going out to scam girls and it wont win you many friends on here or with the girls!

[dawsey]

We have been down this road before with guys with the cheap charlie attitude. You won't be getting any applause from members here for your behaviour.

Also,the original post bears a striking resemblance to an ex BMs views

[Butterfly_guy]

Oh please. Spare me the moral lecture. As the saying goes. Don't hate the player, hate the game. Ask and you shall receive.

[whuakito]

Originally Posted by Butterfly_guy

Oh please. Spare me the moral lecture. As the saying goes. Don't hate the player, hate the game. Ask and you shall receive.

wrong we all love the game,but has to be fair

[marc26]

Originally Posted by Butterfly_guy

Oh please. Spare me the moral lecture. As the saying goes. Don't hate the player, hate the game. Ask and you shall receive.

im not going to throw any negatives words at you, but if going to thailand and knowingly trying to scam a girl out of 25usd, when you know that is what she expected to get makes you feel good or feel like a man, you have a lot more problems than anything i can say to you will solve

good luck on your next ventures

and i assume from your masterful use of the english language for someone being from sweden, supposedly, you must be an educated man and be very prosperous, so i cant imagine 1000baht being too much money for you

[Allybabba22]

First of all, Any real "Players" would not be going to Thailand, What sort of challenge is that?

And whats all this shit about a game, You going into a red-light district picking up girls, Its pretty obvious to everyone that these girls are there for, There is no game!! So for anyone to scam them out of a few baht is sad, Its a different story if you are upfront about it and explain you dont pay for lady etc.. But to lead them on, Into believing that you are going to pay them (And you are by picking them up in a red-light district, Whether money is talked about or not, I never talk about money with any of the girls but always pay them) is a really bad thing to do, And you a no player, Just a sad deluded guy if you really believe that!!!

[t0rn]

[quote=Butterfly_guy]I normally have no problems paying for girls and i am usually overly generous if i like the girl, but sometimes my ego dictates that i go fish for freebies.
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Your ego has a real problem. Despicable.
Pay for play - don't want to pay then don't play.

[Butterfly_guy]

Its not like i systematically exploit bar girls to save a few thousand bath. Trust me it has nothing at all to do with money. If anything its payback for my broken virgin heart back in the days
Besides you guys know as well as i do that these gals are no angles, especially bangkok girls, they'll rob you blind if they can.

[marc26]

Originally Posted by Butterfly_guy

Its not like i systematically exploit bar girls to save a few thousand bath. Trust me it has nothing at all to do with money. If anything its payback for my broken virgin heart back in the days
Besides you guys know as well as i do that these gals are no angles, especially bangkok girls, they'll rob you blind if they can.

any hardened bg is not going to fall for anything that you did and in fact would've demanded money in the morning if it wasn't forthcoming, and if youve been in the scene you know that so you then obviously know that the bg's that you are doing this too are the more inexperienced ones

[Butterfly_guy]

Yeah yeah it is a douchebag thing to do. But come on, when some girl gives me a bullshit story about being a nice girl working at a jewelery store in Karon beach, when i saw her not two days ago turning tricks at Soy eric its hard to resist.

Anyway i better drop this now as I'm coming across as far to much of an arrogant a-hole.

[marc26]

Originally Posted by Butterfly_guy

Yeah yeah it is a douchebag thing to do. But come on, when some girl gives me a bullshit story about being a nice girl working at a jewelery store in Karon beach, when i saw her not two days ago turning tricks at Soy eric its hard to resist.

Anyway i better drop this now as I'm coming across as far to much of an arrogant a-hole.

you are, but i will give you credit for one thing and one thing only. looked like you were just tryign to rile us up like a former troll but seems like you were just being an arrogant ass-ole!!

[steve@thaib]

Originally Posted by Butterfly_guy

I'm coming across as far to much of an arrogant a-hole.

That you are...

[seafox]

Originally Posted by Butterfly_guy

Yeah yeah it is a douchebag thing to do. But come on, when some girl gives me a bullshit story about being a nice girl working at a jewelery store in Karon beach, when i saw her not two days ago turning tricks at Soy eric its hard to resist.

Anyway i better drop this now as I'm coming across as far to much of an arrogant a-hole.

Hi BG, we will always react very strongly to this no matter who we are, someone like me who is 46 or someone like Ally who is 23 and can pull girls who just want to have fun.

This is a forum full of information and a lot of people come on here to get info for their first trip and we don't want them getting decieved thinking that they can go over there and score for free every night. Yes we have all had ladies who after multiple nights together do not want money but that is not the norm and we want newbies to understand the real life truth about LOS so there and no surprises. And as another BM said, you don't want to have the Thai boyfriend who now can not go out and party because his TGF did not bring him any money showing up at your hotel in a drunken rage.

Just easier and safer to pay them.

Tex, a lady making 5000 baht a night at Dragon is the Bill Gate's of BG's.

[slinggalin]

Originally Posted by Butterfly_guy

Its not like i systematically exploit bar girls to save a few thousand bath. Trust me it has nothing at all to do with money. If anything its payback for my broken virgin heart back in the days
Besides you guys know as well as i do that these gals are no angles, especially bangkok girls, they'll rob you blind if they can.

never met any bad ones on my trips. If there are, then knock on wood I never experienced any.

I've always wanted to see if i could get a night for free, but then I remember the sites I see when traveling around alittle and readin on the ave wage of the country etc. and I know for a fact I couldn't live with myself if I didn't pay them for their services...plus a tip if were outstanding services

[cybernator_uk]

Originally Posted by Butterfly_guy

I normally have no problems paying for girls and i am usually overly generous if i like the girl, but sometimes my ego dictates that i go fish for freebies. And its pretty fun to.

After a few trips to Thailand I'm pretty good at getting a freebies from girls. Usually i go to one of the nightclubs and play the clueless good-guy tourist. The one that supposedly doesn't know 99% of the girls are working girls.
I talk to them like i would, flirting with any western girl, and casually ask them where they are from and what they do for a living. (lol) Some will take the opportunity to fabricate a story hoping to lure me in, making me believe they are something else. I pretend to believe. I obviously stay clear from talking about money of any sort and buy a few drinks. yadda yada yadda we go my hotel where i do the shy guy routine before doing her. I fake some after-play where i look at her with dreamy eyes and say sweet (banal) things.

In the morning i keep pretending for a while until she tiers and wants to go home. I take her number and don't call back. Unless of course i do like her and want another freebie.

You'd be surprised as to how many girls will let you get away with it if they think you are a shoe in for a boyfriend or something.

Remember they'd do the same to you.

Happy hunting.

To be honest mate.... I read that through a few times... and thought that was disgraceful..... These girls dont have that much money and id rather give her the money than see her maybe go hungry or whatever... These girls have turned to buisness they are in so they can support not only themselves but there families as well... Did you consider that the 1000 baht your saving will not go to her or her family.... What will you do with it... Buy a few beers and then gloat that you can get "freebies".... You say you have been to LOS a few times... If so you would have realised that the money you have saved goes most of the time to a bigger picture than your night of satisfaction.... I think you need to grow up.... I think you wanted to come accross like a legend... Sorry but you come accross like a child

[cybernator_uk]

Originally Posted by Allybabba22

Obviously your the one who does not see the point, I can go into a bar back here aswell and pick up a girl for free, But where I drink at home its not a "Red Light District" thats the difference, Nearly all the girls in Patong, If not all the girls are in there working, Normal Thai girls would not want to be associated or let anyone get the idea that they were Prostitutes, So they would stay well clear of places like Patong, If you want to go and get freebies, Then why not go into the non "Red Light Districts" of Thailand? You know they do exist

At the very, Very least if you want a few freebies with the girls around Patong (Which there is nothing wrong with), At least have the honesty and the decency to let them know you dont like to pay for lady, And I know some girls who would be up for if they really like you, But at least tell them and let them make there own minds up, Instead of leading them on into believing they have a customer for the night, Only for you to give them nothing after the deed is done in morning, Thats just sad and a very nasty thing to do IMO....

That part was very well written and very true...... Just bang out of order....

[Butterfly_guy]

You guys are no fun. Lighten up ffs and spare me your Jungian cliff note psych analysis. Nobody likes a self righteous sex tourist who takes the moral high ground.

pfft i have seen you guys complain that a 3k total is a lot for a night out including bf and girl. What a joke.

[fishead]

Originally Posted by Allybabba22

First of all, Any real "Players" would not be going to Thailand, What sort of challenge is that?

And whats all this shit about a game, You going into a red-light district picking up girls, Its pretty obvious to everyone that these girls are there for, There is no game!! So for anyone to scam them out of a few baht is sad, Its a different story if you are upfront about it and explain you dont pay for lady etc.. But to lead them on, Into believing that you are going to pay them (And you are by picking them up in a red-light district, Whether money is talked about or not, I never talk about money with any of the girls but always pay them) is a really bad thing to do, And you a no player, Just a sad deluded guy if you really believe that!!!

I was on Kho Samui and saw a guy who tried to pull the same shit. The girl screamed,"Where's my tip"? The guy walked away pretending to not know what she was talking about. Either way the guy looked like a real ass and attracted a lot of negative attention.

By the way a lot of these girls have a lot of pull in the underworld. If you are a real prick they can plant some drugs in your hotel and call their police friends.

[visa2003]

Butterfly Guy, you wrote in your original post that you considered that you were getting back at the girls that broke your heart on your first trips to LOS. Why then, don't you get back at the ones who did the deeds instead of new ones who had nothing to do with it? Would you like to have to pay for the deeds of some Farang you had never even heard of? Why should the girls?

[nelsonone]

Originally Posted by Butterfly_guy

You guys are no fun. Lighten up ffs and spare me your Jungian cliff note psych analysis. Nobody likes a self righteous sex tourist who takes the moral high ground.

pfft i have seen you guys complain that a 3k total is a lot for a night out including bf and girl. What a joke.

Now pick up your toys and put them back in your pram........don't like the comments you got?????..........don't post this kind of egotist crap again!!!!!!

What kind of response did you think you were gonna get here..........??????

and who is the sex tourist who is robbing BGs so he can pander to his own ego and try to convince himself that he is not a sex tourist....what a laugh.......suggest you go and have a good read of Jung again buddy!!!

[LivinLOS]

Troll or d1ck.. Take your pick.

If it increases your ego to exploit the shyness of a novice working girl who a) doesnt want to percieve herself as being a ****** b) is shy / scared to ask for what she expects c ) is almost certainly nervous about the money question (or would have demanded).. Then your one world class sad d1ck. Theres no 'game' is confusing some scared timid poor 3rd world girl...

Bye troll.

[Devman]

There is the right thing to do & very much the WRONG thing to do.

Why would anyone want to take money off a girl (which is want this amounts to) when in all full knowledge you know what the deal is & you knowingly deceive her?