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Old 29-12-2006, 23:08
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I was just wondering how BM's may feel if their own daughter was a BG? I ask because I would be interested to know how thia parents accept the profession of their offspring. Does anyone have any ideas or opinions?
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Old 29-12-2006, 23:19
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I was just wondering how BM's may feel if their own daughter was a BG? I ask because I would be interested to know how thia parents accept the profession of their offspring. Does anyone have any ideas or opinions?

They accept the money it brings in, the offspring they could care less about. Its not realy a glamorous job is it?
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Old 29-12-2006, 23:52
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I was just wondering how BM's may feel if their own daughter was a BG? I ask because I would be interested to know how thia parents accept the profession of their offspring. Does anyone have any ideas or opinions?

most of these girls are pressured into the bar scene by their parents
and in most cases, from what i have experienced, its usually the oldest daughter, with the rest of the family living off her
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Old 29-12-2006, 23:59
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THANK GOD FOR GOOD OLD PARENTAL GUIDANCE !

SERIOUSLY THOUGH there are no weekly benefit cheques coming through the letterbox in thailand so there are not so many options for a poor family living in issan to survive are there i dont suppose deep down the families are too happy to see there daughters going to service the farang in pattaya/bangkok/phuket but if it means food in there mouths then what is the option .
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THANK GOD FOR GOOD OLD PARENTAL GUIDANCE !

SERIOUSLY THOUGH there are no weekly benefit cheques coming through the letterbox in thailand so there are not so many options for a poor family living in issan to survive are there i dont suppose deep down the families are too happy to see there daughters going to service the farang in pattaya/bangkok/phuket but if it means food in there mouths then what is the option .

from my experience, and this only my experience, it may be true the parents are not thrilled to send their daughter off, but they sure get accustomed to that money fast and start to demand it for unnecasary things
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ANOTHER THING if my daughter was a bg i would be sitting at home for the rest of the eveneing drinking thai whiskey and beer without any probs instead i am just about to go out in gale force winds and driving rain and drive to work 555555
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Maybe you will get a Thai to answer this for you, but until you do, the question is so hypothetical that its impossible to answer.

I have a daughter of 19, but I can't give you an answer your question. My family's situation is so different to that of a Thai family.
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Maybe you will get a Thai to answer this for you, but until you do, the question is so hypothetical that its impossible to answer.

I have a daughter of 19, but I can't give you an answer your question. My family's situation is so different to that of a Thai family.

Well said...
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Your are ideally placed to answer IMO. Daughter aged 19 just about the right age for Bargirl work.. Just a geographical accident of birth and a bit of luck.

As a father and parent would it be the last thing you would want your own flesh and blood to be getting involved in? I really would appreciate your honest answer..

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Maybe you will get a Thai to answer this for you, but until you do, the question is so hypothetical that its impossible to answer.

I have a daughter of 19, but I can't give you an answer your question. My family's situation is so different to that of a Thai family.
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Your are ideally placed to answer IMO. Daughter aged 19 just about the right age for Bargirl work.. Just a geographical accident of birth and a bit of luck

Well Islanboy would you prefer to send her to the ritch/big neighbour farmer
to work in the rice fields
What would happend there?what you think.

What happend in the old days in Scotland when they did send their daughters
away to work for the landlord,Dident they know ?

First of al its a big economic diffrense,and then you have the culture diffrence.And yes they dont belive in god.

They care about there children just as your mother care about you.
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Your are ideally placed to answer IMO. Daughter aged 19 just about the right age for Bargirl work.. Just a geographical accident of birth and a bit of luck.

As a father and parent would it be the last thing you would want your own flesh and blood to be getting involved in? I really would appreciate your honest answer..

So how do you think I should answer that one then? Would I like my daughter to go with men for money? Of course not.
You would get this answer from 99.9% of anyone else who truthfully answered you as well.
Sorry but I disagree with you, Im not qualified to give an answer,its still hypothetical.
Im not a Thai, so you will only get a true answer from one IMO.
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I`ve got two daughters from a thai and for me I wouldn`t like it at all. But that`s my culture and the way I look at it. I would rather starve to dead then to send them of to that kind of work. Then again I approve with Petter what doesnt know doesn`t hurt.

So since I`m married to a thai I asked my wife. And she said NO. She wouldn`t like it all that her kids went working the barscene. But she also said that at a certain age they just don`t want to listen anymore. It`s their life. She also claimed that many girls go to the big city and apply in the last moments for a job like that without the knowledge of the parents or other familymembers. They jsut found the job of their life in the big city and they help the parents with their loans and other things. Everything to help the family in their culture.
Not like with us we are being raised by our parents and we take it for grantet (sorry spelling). Culture do make a difference.
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I'm pretty much like you andI dont have the dilema of having to send my daughter over the fence to the big rich farmer to spend 12 hours in a padi field up to my knees in shit for a pittance. However I must say if it was my own daughter I might well prefer that option to her being shagged senseless by the likes of me and you.

As for Scotland I'm not aware of too many daughters being sent away from home to work for landlords but if they did I'm glad that they have stopped that shit now as its not right, I'm sure you agree!!

Your point about the big economic diffrences I totally agree with although I have visited other parts of the world and not come across a bar scene like what they have in Thialand and I think the explanation of not believing in God is no water proof.. I used to trip over people going round those temples so somebody was receiving their prayers bhudda or whoever..

Your last sentence is more adressing what I was hoping to find out.. If they do care for thier children it must be the worst knowing how they earn their money no? I know if it was my daughter I would be wanting to have a chat with whoever was rattling her 1000 bht Lt or less for whort time thats all..

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Well Islanboy would you prefer to send her to the ritch/big neighbour farmer
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What would happend there?what you think.

What happend in the old days in Scotland when they did send their daughters
away to work for the landlord,Dident they know ?

First of al its a big economic diffrense,and then you have the culture diffrence.And yes they dont belive in god.

They care about there children just as your mother care about you.
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Dawsey thanks..

I'm not arsed about being Thai, English, American, Norwegian etc.. I just was curious to know how they thought about it.. I'm sure that given first and foremost they are human beings they pretty much feel like you.. Being Thia is niether here nor there.. You would not like it, me niether me thinks..

Not to worry.. I often like to ponder moral dilemas especially as I will soon have my hands on somebody elses thia daughter fairly soon..


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So how do you think I should answer that one then? Would I like my daughter to go with men for money? Of course not.
You would get this answer from 99.9% of anyone else who truthfully answered you as well.
Sorry but I disagree with you, Im not qualified to give an answer,its still hypothetical.
Im not a Thai, so you will only get a true answer from one IMO.
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Very illuminating!! I'm just not getting the diffrent culture thingy.. I would do anything for my family too.. So maybe Thia parents just want the kids or expect the kids to look after them more in old age.. Kind of confucios China style.. Respect olders etc...


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I`ve got two daughters from a thai and for me I wouldn`t like it at all. But that`s my culture and the way I look at it. I would rather starve to dead then to send them of to that kind of work. Then again I approve with Petter what doesnt know doesn`t hurt.

So since I`m married to a thai I asked my wife. And she said NO. She wouldn`t like it all that her kids went working the barscene. But she also said that at a certain age they just don`t want to listen anymore. It`s their life. She also claimed that many girls go to the big city and apply in the last moments for a job like that without the knowledge of the parents or other familymembers. They jsut found the job of their life in the big city and they help the parents with their loans and other things. Everything to help the family in their culture.
Not like with us we are being raised by our parents and we take it for grantet (sorry spelling). Culture do make a difference.
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If your daughter was a BG?

Think al normal people in the vest would think alike.

But this link give you something to think about,not that this have to be correct facts

Thailand’s Long Tradition of Prostitution
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from my experience, and this only my experience, it may be true the parents are not thrilled to send their daughter off, but they sure get accustomed to that money fast and start to demand it for unnecasary things

Thailand is most of the times a make belive land...The parents and siblings, may know what the eldest daugther do for a living, but choose to ignore it, since the cash they provide for their family, brings in face in their community.

Either way, i have talked to alot of BG's some say they like the work others dont....but in the end, they need the cash, and with only 4 to 6 years in school, its either the farm or some factory work, which does not pay for their living, and the things they want for themselves and the family.

So respect to them....

If i would like my daugther to go with a man for money ?...well its hard to answer, first i would say NO WAY...but i have never been poor, i have always had a good roof over my head, i have good parents, a good education, and money is not an option for me. But some of these girls come from a background so much more different than our western idealized society, that we will never fully understand their motivations to do what they do.

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I was just wondering how BM's may feel if their own daughter was a BG?

Firstly I agree this is a silly question as the cultural and "Nanny State" differences are so vast that we (UK) cannot begin to understand the Thai mentality for family and family respondsibility.

But from my experience of talking to my "friend" I'd say she does it with her family's approval as the farm won't sustain the family life and the offspring 2 girls had to leave to Bkk for work then due to failed marriage (no child support etc etc) drifted into prositution to put food in her kids stomachs. I can relate to that in that my "friend" is doing it so her kids can get an education and don't have to do the same thing in 12 to 15 years.

From a UK perspective a former g/f of mine was selling kinky sex (I got it for free) and found it were difficult to get off the routine once on it. If some lawyer is paying you £500 cash for dressing up and ording him about so he would *** over her in the end of session that's a good wage for a few hours. She was using the money to keep her own daughter in a false high £ lifestyle. I couldn't agree that she needed to do this with her and her hubby also holding down full time jobs but as stated the girl quickly got used to £500 extra every week and to cut that off was very very difficult.
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I`ve got two daughters from a thai and for me I wouldn`t like it at all. But that`s my culture and the way I look at it. I would rather starve to dead then to send them of to that kind of work. Then again I approve with Petter what doesnt know doesn`t hurt.

So since I`m married to a thai I asked my wife. And she said NO. She wouldn`t like it all that her kids went working the barscene. But she also said that at a certain age they just don`t want to listen anymore. It`s their life. She also claimed that many girls go to the big city and apply in the last moments for a job like that without the knowledge of the parents or other familymembers. They jsut found the job of their life in the big city and they help the parents with their loans and other things. Everything to help the family in their culture.
Not like with us we are being raised by our parents and we take it for grantet (sorry spelling). Culture do make a difference.

obviously you never been around my neighborhood
parents are treated like kings and queens where i come from
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as for girls liking the bar scene
i would say most dont
ive known a few girls that were highly sought after, could pick who they went with
and when they had sponsors ad were out of the game, and those relationships finished, they didnt go back into the scene
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What a stupid bloody question.

I have a niece which will more than likely end up in the bar profession, but so what!!!
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What a stupid bloody question.

I have a niece which will more than likely end up in the bar profession, but so what!!!

Not too stupid a question, STEVE, but certainly a good debate starter.

I have no daughter and so can not comment,but could I just take this opportunity to point out that on sensitive topics as this the responses on this forum are such as would be put forward over a pint in a bar ie face-to face. If it were "the other" forum the posters would have taken this opportunity to slag each other off reassured that they are cosily protected behind a keyboard and miles of 'phone cable.

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