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30-12-2006, 11:02
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Only death is worse than Farang? ;-)
Hello, sorry for the small provocation, take it easy, not too seriously.
Many farangs believe thai girls are very friendly, but its not true. Only Isaan girls are friendly and only for money. Typical thai girl would never even talk with farang, not even 10 seconds. You can try to approach them, no matter how polite and friendly you are, how good looking and wearing, you can even speak thai, they will just say something about stupid farang and run away. Isaan girls are not different, but they are so poor, they have no other possibility to survive and support their children or family. So my theory is - only if the girl has no other choice as farang or death, she will choose farang. If she has only small chance to survive or to find thai man, she will never even talk with some stupid farang. There are still some exceptions, but I am talking here about the 99,9 percent of thai girls. There are still enough nice bar girls to have fun with, so the usual farang doesnt need to waste his time with normal girls. Its just a stupid feeling to be the second worst choice after death for them (even for the bargirls). This is just my theory after 8 years experience with bargirls, freelancers and "normal" girlfriends (mostly from internet). I would be happy to hear different reports from you. Thanks John |
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30-12-2006, 11:23
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So youve never had success hitting on uni chicks then ??
Your loss.. also may surprise you to know but not all BG's are Issaanites..
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30-12-2006, 14:23
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Seems like you haven't been face to face with many "normal girls". I would say you are way off base and I think you must be doing something very wrong. There are lots of good girls that are interested in farang and not just for $$$, but they will be more shy than a drunken BG. Don't mistake shy with unfriendly. They will also be less comfortable speaking english at first. Need to take it slow and easy or just learn some thai and appologize for not speaking more thai. Help them relax. good luck |
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30-12-2006, 14:24
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I assume this is the thread that prompted K2's thread on banal posts. You got one thing right JohnF: I won't be taking this very seriously.
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30-12-2006, 15:08
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I think the OP has just recently been burnt, or burnt several times by Thai girls, you're not alone.
I've been with Issan, Thai-Chinese, Thai-Malay, Northerners, and Southern girls. I must admit, the most genuine of the above mentioned i've come across is Southern, and Thai-Chinese. No not BG's, legit girls, with varing backgrounds, some wealthy, some don't even have two cents to rub together. I don't think it's irregular for a normal/legit Thai girl not wanting to speak to a farang, whether it be, she doesn't like farangs, or doesn't like you in particular, or flat just not interested at all. I've come across this scenario dime a dozen, but I don't take it personally, maybe it's the cultural differences that are completly out of my control, or not her type. Overall my experience with normal/legit Thai girls has been far more positive than my experiences with bar girls. Some might say "Why waste your time, effort, money with normal girls?" I guess I enjoy the thrill of the chase, each to his own. This is Thailand really, you've really got to know how to play with these girls, so you don't get played, and have fun somewhere in between. The whole nice guy facade I see all the time, while it does work, I think it's quite boring for the girls. Just take some time out to think about it, how many times would would a girl ask these particualar questions? 1. Where you come from? 2. What your name? You've really got to spice things up, show them that you know the "game". You can throw in some little one-liners, some white lies that creates humour, coming from this angle, i've had the most success with the girls who don't seem as interested. Coming from the bar girl scene, I guess you're right, if she doesn't have want to have any customers, she wont get paid, she wont eat, her children wont eat, and yeah, she does choose going with a farang to survive. But again, I wouldn't take it personally, its what they do in order to survive. Quote:
Most of the legit/normal Thai girls i've been with are from University, or just recently graduated, these girls by far i've had the most fun with. |
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30-12-2006, 15:27
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Talbotman
DONT assume that you r own experiences are shared by everyone !
i was not going to reply to this thread but the urge was too strong basically you have written a load of pony (nonsense) i have been in thailand 25 times and not always in the resorts i found if you treated normal thai people in a friendly manner (including girls) i have always been welcomed warmly maybe its your own attitude that causes you problems judging by what was your first post on the board you sound like a laugh a minute !
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30-12-2006, 18:06
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Touché Talbotman. More like: 'Only death is worse than a guy with no sense of sanook'. Can't believe this post came from "8 years of experience". Unless he meant an experience 8 years ago. |
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30-12-2006, 18:13
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Im interested in finding some uni girls on my next trip and also some legit girls as you describe them , i too enjoy the chase and sometimes can get bored looking for bgs any suggestions > did u go looking chatting up girls on your own ? Tas
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30-12-2006, 18:25
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Nice 1st post from JohnF
 You can't beat a good contraversial post 1st time out can you. A little intro in the newbies section wouldn't go amiss John.
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30-12-2006, 19:17
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Well there is some truth in it...for most guys.....
Most of all BG's are not looking for your symphaty! Your wallet IS no 1! Even the ones, you spend a good time with! Have you any idea, how much conrtacts these girls have? What do you expect? They fall over you? This happens sometimes, but also if you can be a better life for them. No money, no honey! Can you blame them? No! Showing feelings, can only harm them a bit more. But the comedy -act compensates sometimes. Then there is the symphathy, like in the real world. This may work sometimes, but it is difficult. Today, I met a guy on the beach. Pretty, very pretty lady! I asked him where he got her from. It was his wife! He 42, she 22. He met her through the chatrooms on the internet. I believe him, girl got style. But....would she have married him, if he could not support her and give her security? Of course not! I am sure she likes him, but maybe not the way, you could think as being his spouse. These girls wants a better life and security. They are not Issan girls in this case, but girls dreaming of a better life a farang could offer them. Enough examples of this in the chat-rooms! |
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30-12-2006, 19:17
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oh those cuties, on the skytrain, at the shopping centre, not a bg amongst them, who make the initial but fleeting eye contact, are thinking that farang is the last resort to find a husband or a bf.
if a farang speaks his bar scene learnt thai, i am sure most tgs would quickly be turned off, but some nice polite textbook stuff the opposite effect seems to take place. i am not trying to be a snob or hi-so, but my wife, says it is easy to see where the farang learnt his thai language and that tells a story about his partner. yes, it sounds snobbish, but thats the way she sees it.
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30-12-2006, 19:34
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thats why i dont listen to bargirls thai slang bcos i know its all rubbish , i learn from books and audio as best i can, i know if i used bar girls thai on any normal thai person they would know 100 % who ive been talking to , so i dont pay attention to thier thai anymore
Tas
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30-12-2006, 20:59
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Careful, TT. It's one thing to talk about BGs this way, but quite another to talk about a guy and his wife. |
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30-12-2006, 21:11
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Not sure why its OK to discuss relationship that start in a bar any differently than relationships that start any other way.. Whatever she may have done in the past does an ex BG not get the same respect once shes become someones partner ??
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30-12-2006, 21:52
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The issue is not how the relationship started. It's what it the relationship was at the moment that TT made his comment. In this case, he was talking to a married couple. He's lucky the guy and his wife were in a mood to put up with stupid comments from *****mongers. |
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30-12-2006, 22:42
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I always flinch a little when a woman is tagged with the 'bargirl' title, as if that makes her different. It surprises me when guys are so open about what their wife or girfriend used to do for a living, it's asking for finger pointing to my mind.
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30-12-2006, 23:20
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Thanks for the answers, take it easy guys, it was just so provocative to get more responses. As you can see - it works.
Back to the topic: Let me just explain what I call normal girls. The difference is not if she is BG or not, the difference is if she talks with farang (1 percent) or not (99 percent). Internet girls, university girls, workers in tourist or farang areas, they all are easy to get. This is what I call the exception, the girls talking with farang. But they all together are still not more than 1 percent of the population. I just got little bit bored with them and their games, so I am looking for alternatives. I would like to talk about the really normal girls, the another 99 percent, who never talked with farang. This is why I asked, if somebody here has experience with them. But I read here all the time only about girls from chat, girls from university... It looks like there is no way to talk with the 99 percent of thai girls. Is there really nobody with other experience than internet girls or uni girls? Speaking frankly: There is a small difference between girls from Timber Hut and KTM. In Timber Hut they expect to meet farang and its not difficult to talk with them. Maybe 50 girls, less than 1 percent of population in Phuket town - even exception. But the normal girls go to KTM or T2. So if there are so many girls interested in farang, who of you guys got lately some normal nice girlfriend from KTM? ;-))) |
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31-12-2006, 00:03
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In Bangkok, just look at where the Universities are, it depends what kinda girl you're after. After the hi-society, or wannabe hi-society then hang around Chulalongkorn, Thammasat campuses. Chula' girls usually hang around Siam Square, or MBK shopping centre. If you get chatting to a girl from the language faculties, her English will be surprisingly very good. Thammasat; which is close to Khao Sarn Rd, you'll find all the girls hang around there. Places like "The Club", Lava, and Gullivers. Also JohF, if you're after the girls who have never talked with a farang, what are the chances that they know English? Try hanging out where there is not much farangs, or where the farang to Thai ratio is quite low. I can only speak of Bangkok, but places like Santika on Ekamai, Escudo on Thong Lor, RCA and Club Blur on Petchburi. I was at Club Blur one night, I was only one in three farangs that where there with 150 or so Thai's. |
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31-12-2006, 00:03
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Not all BG's are the same, I have the proof, 14 years ago I found a very sweet BG, and not long after we got married. It has been 14 happy years, we now live in Denmark where she's working fulltime and help to support our living expenses.
You can't judge a girl just because she have been working in a bar, you can find sweet, honest girls there as well. |
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31-12-2006, 00:34
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True...Meet alotof thai girls not in the "Trade", MOST of them very friendly.. |
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31-12-2006, 01:13
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[quote]Many farangs believe thai girls are very friendly, but its not true. Only Isaan girls are friendly and only for money. Typical thai girl would never even talk with farang, not even 10 seconds. You can try to approach them, no matter how polite and friendly you are, how good looking and wearing, you can even speak thai, they will just say something about stupid farang and run away
[This is just my theory after 8 years experience with bargirls, freelancers and "normal" girlfriends (mostly from internet). I /QUOTE] If you want to meet "real" Thai you have to leave the bargirls and tourist areas behind! You have to travel around the country to see and meet the "real" Thailand! In places like Patong you will only be regarded as a walking ATM or a *****monger! I've been travelling to Thailand for 20 years now, the first 10 years I only stopped by a few days in the tourist areas rest of the time I spent out in the provinces. I could hardly walk or travel anywhere without thaigirls hungrily approaching me and speaking to me, all willing to get to know me, giving out their adresses,telephone numbers, photos and e-mails! I have loads of presents given and sent to me, clothes and especially knitted kneck scarfs, have a whole drawer full of them!Lol I have a whole box with literally 100's of loveletters from girls I met while travelling around Thailand all claiming how much they loved me and want to marry with me!Lol! Some girls would even come to surprise me at my hotel at night!Lol Never any talk about giving them money, they did it because they genuinely liked me wouldn't even accept me paying for restaurants or movies had girls pay me to go with them on expensive dinnercruises along the Chao Phraya River! They were like hungry mosquitoes, I almost had to beat them off with a stick! Lol Friendlier and more approachable girls than Thaigirls are difficult to find! And I am not talking about bargirls, I'm talking about students and schoolgirls, officegirls and shopowners, hotelreceptionists to farming-girls, poor or rich from any walks of life! You just have to lift your ass off that barstool and wander away from the tourist areas to find pure and genuinely friendly Thaigirls my friend! Just treat them with respect and they will treat you the same! Plahgat ps it helps if you are a young and handsome "Alphamale", like I was back then!Lol Last edited by plahgat : 31-12-2006 at 01:17. |
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31-12-2006, 01:45
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