Police closed Bangla at 02 am tonight

[LivinLOS]

Yeah bound to play hell.. The GF will probably expect some soon..

[padfoot]

Just read on a couple Pattaya forums that they are going to crack down there also. Is this a country wide trend? I'll still be in country in April and May.

[LivinLOS]

Well to be fair at least they let High season pass.. If this had happened 2 months ago bar owners would be singing merry hell..

Sorta good planning for once.. Then kinda making a statement.. Ok you had your time.. Now back on track lads..

[Nicke]

Tonight no closing time,

Bars tonight were back to normal as I am aware of, as no police closed down any establishment.

So at the moment looks like we are back to normal behaviour.

[the bigboy]

Originally Posted by faultytowers

When I first went to Patong all the Bangla Bars closed at 02.00 and everyone just walked up the street to Soi Sunset. The bars there basically "kicked off" at about 01.00 and carried on all night , many still going strong at 06.00.

When they eventually closed it down (to refurbish Tai Pan and build Thailife) the Bangla bars started staying open later. Drinking habits changed , as people went out a bit earlier , which I guess will happen again if the bars are made to close at 02.00.

oh the happy days when there were bar beers at soi sunset party time all night always busy there specialy the first 5 bars

[K2]

Originally Posted by Nicke

Tonight no closing time,

Bars tonight were back to normal as I am aware of, as no police closed down any establishment.

So at the moment looks like we are back to normal behaviour.

Johnnie Walker Classic over - correlation seems high, lets see what happens next year during this, non-golfers might like to avoid this time.

[Nicke]

We dont have such big golf tournaments every year, last time was 8 years ago...

Originally Posted by K2

Johnnie Walker Classic over - correlation seems high, lets see what happens next year during this, non-golfers might like to avoid this time.

[Robaht]

Originally Posted by Simbo

On a negative note this is playing hell with my sex life. Mistimed it last nite and went home alone. The positive side is I have more money to spend today now. Yippee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I know that feeling --- FREE MONEY!!!!

Kind of like winning a lottery you lost.

cheers, Robaht

[Esco]

Just saw that they are going to target patts as well. This really blows

[Simbo]

Police enforcing laws blows- which laws in your own country do you not like Kheemao? Without discipline there is no society- without society there is no drink, no girls amd no other excesses. I support the rule of law in any country no matter how we may or may not think it sucks. If 2 am is too early, why not go out an hour earlier- its not rocket science.

[TanMan]

Originally Posted by Simbo

Police enforcing laws blows- which laws in your own country do you not like Kheemao? Without discipline there is no society- without society there is no drink, no girls amd no other excesses. I support the rule of law in any country no matter how we may or may not think it sucks. If 2 am is too early, why not go out an hour earlier- its not rocket science.

Yeh, but when the Law is the "exception" rather than the "rule", where does that leave you? Strict adherence OR strict enforcement is needed in your example... It's not that 2AM is too early or too late, it's the abrupt nature of things shutting down out of nowhere, when it wasn't expected that causes the confusion of how to plan your nights out... even if you plan as you go...

[Esco]

Originally Posted by Simbo

Police enforcing laws blows- which laws in your own country do you not like Kheemao? Without discipline there is no society- without society there is no drink, no girls amd no other excesses. I support the rule of law in any country no matter how we may or may not think it sucks. If 2 am is too early, why not go out an hour earlier- its not rocket science.

I don't like many laws in my country and violate them all the time But what has to do with my opinion that 2 AM is too early? I just like to go out all night. If everything closes at 2 I will go home but that doesn't mean that I enjoy it.

[Simbo]

Anarchy rules obviously. Up the revolution.

[K2]

Yes - get this Baht plunging -- SELL !!!!!! you know it makes sense!!

[MajorTom]

Originally Posted by Simbo

Police enforcing laws blows- which laws in your own country do you not like Kheemao? Without discipline there is no society- without society there is no drink, no girls amd no other excesses. I support the rule of law in any country no matter how we may or may not think it sucks. If 2 am is too early, why not go out an hour earlier- its not rocket science.

You are in Thailand now. Not the British army

I like to have the freedom to drink in a bar drink at nighttime. Not beeing forced to drink in the afternoon or evening. And i believe many others have the same preferation..

Anyway, wether its too early or not: Enforcing closing of everything at the same time is just boring and puts the nightlife down IMO.

[bangladiver]

bars open after 2 last night (though the power was cut in taipan for 5 minutes at 2am?? then back to normal

[Esco]

Originally Posted by MajorTom

You are in Thailand now. Not the British army

I like to have the freedom to drink in a bar drink at nighttime. Not beeing forced to drink in the afternoon or evening. And i believe many others have the same preferation..

Anyway, wether its too early or not: Enforcing closing of everything at the same time is just boring and puts the nightlife down IMO.

My thoughts exactly

[IJ]

Originally Posted by MajorTom

You are in Thailand now. Not the British army

I like to have the freedom to drink in a bar drink at nighttime. Not beeing forced to drink in the afternoon or evening. And i believe many others have the same preferation..

Anyway, wether its too early or not: Enforcing closing of everything at the same time is just boring and puts the nightlife down IMO.

a good post tom.......ij

[Tarzan]

Originally Posted by MajorTom

You are in Thailand now. Not the British army

I like to have the freedom to drink in a bar drink at nighttime. Not beeing forced to drink in the afternoon or evening. And i believe many others have the same preferation..

Anyway, wether its too early or not: Enforcing closing of everything at the same time is just boring and puts the nightlife down IMO.

Lucky im not in Norway with their alcoholregulations...

I understand why you moved...

[faultytowers]

Originally Posted by MajorTom

I like to have the freedom to drink in a bar drink at nighttime. Not beeing forced to drink in the afternoon or evening. And i believe many others have the same preferation..

Anyway, wether its too early or not: Enforcing closing of everything at the same time is just boring and puts the nightlife down IMO.

There's a lot of "freedoms" we'd like to have but unfortunately there are also rules and regulations which are in place and "at times" are enforced.

Whether we prefer afternoons/evenings/nights....or early mornings , someone is always going to be upset. I don't feel that closing everything down at the same time is boring , but I do feel it is stupid.Turning everyone out on to the street at the same time is just asking for trouble , as normally people just "filter" out when they have had enough.

I know previously a lot of late opening was ignored but when it becomes "in your face" (due to more places/later times) then I think it attracts too much attention , and results in "clamp downs".


P.S this is not an ex-army view.

[sundancekid]

Originally Posted by Simbo

Police enforcing laws blows- which laws in your own country do you not like Kheemao? Without discipline there is no society- without society there is no drink, no girls amd no other excesses. I support the rule of law in any country no matter how we may or may not think it sucks. If 2 am is too early, why not go out an hour earlier- its not rocket science.

… But seriously --- as has been said before --- if the MiB enforced the law to the letter, all “entertainment venues” would have to close at 1 AM inside the “zones” and midnight for the ones outside. That’s the law.

Of course, if this law HAD been enforced, the majority of the bars would’ve folded. Guess my point is that IMO the latest crackdown is nothing more than a “show of force” (from Bangkok?). Fact is that if most bars had to close at midnight, the nightlife in Phuket would die. Simple as that.

Gee, even my dad would be pissed (erm... not pissed) if he was forced to stop drinking at midnight...

[ATMwalking]

Originally Posted by sundancekid

Fact is that if most bars had to close at midnight, the nightlife in Phuket would die. Simple as that.

Absolutely. Part of the problem is you have people jetting in from all sorts of different time zones. 24 hour party works a lot better in that situation. Vegas doesn't close at 1am, nor should phuket.

Problem is not rule of law but rule of the day.

Everyone in phuket, officials included understands the issue. But they are powerless to do anything but enforce this moving target. They cut some more slack when they can, tighten things up when they must. Just have to roll with it.

Perhaps one day Thailand will decentralize and Phuket will have some control over laws. Perhaps once again Thailand will have an elected government...

[azn]

yeah
pretty much sucks if all the bars would close at midnight

[blog401]

Originally Posted by ATMwalking

Absolutely. Part of the problem is you have people jetting in from all sorts of different time zones. 24 hour party works a lot better in that situation. Vegas doesn't close at 1am, nor should phuket.

Problem is not rule of law but rule of the day.

Everyone in phuket, officials included understands the issue. But they are powerless to do anything but enforce this moving target. They cut some more slack when they can, tighten things up when they must. Just have to roll with it.

Perhaps one day Thailand will decentralize and Phuket will have some control over laws. Perhaps once again Thailand will have an elected government...

I'm curious, do people here think is centrally driven i.e. goverment (General doo dah) or is it the local Pols flexing muscle. Basically, what's behind the headline??

[K2]

Originally Posted by blog401

I'm curious, do people here think is centrally driven i.e. goverment (General doo dah) or is it the local Pols flexing muscle. Basically, what's behind the headline??

I reckon (heard ) was BKK MiB driven - the Golf brought a lot of pooyai and of course high profile golfers and visitors to Phuket ... now would not want all those roughian so and so's on Bangla to stay open late now would we chaps! (Just was to appease the powers that be - hopefully back to normal - all in all the local officials realise the needs of tourists from wider cross section of society/cultures).

[MrDK]

Originally Posted by Tarzan

Lucky im not in Norway with their alcoholregulations...

Has Sweden gotten any better? I remember the Swedes invading Copenhagen on the weekends to get some decent beer.

[blog401]

Originally Posted by K2

I reckon (heard ) was BKK MiB driven - the Golf brought a lot of pooyai and of course high profile golfers and visitors to Phuket ... now would not want all those roughian so and so's on Bangla to stay open late now would we chaps! (Just was to appease the powers that be - hopefully back to normal - all in all the local officials realise the needs of tourists from wider cross section of society/cultures).

Sounds familiar - guaranteed any crackdown on what is usually taken as a given in Japan has something to do with outside (or perceived outside) attention/scrutiny. We've got an Olympic bid for Tokyo in the pipe line, expect some heavy handed policing (homeles people evicted fron shelters in the parks for example) before the Olympic committee come visit.

[sundancekid]

Originally Posted by Tarzan

Lucky im not in Norway with their alcoholregulations...

I understand why you moved...

Haven’t been back in Norway for a few years now, but are the “regulations” --- compared to Sweden --- really that different?

Used to go to Stockholm every now and then and there was not much difference in terms of closing hours. Of course, when it comes to prices… well that’s a whole ‘nother ballgame.

Skål

[Nicke]

Ofcourse Swedish youngsters love Denmark, 16 years old to buy alcoholic beverages compared to Sweden's 20 years old. (18 for bars and pubs)

I also went to Copenhagen when I was 16 or 17 with my schoolmates...

Originally Posted by MrDK

Has Sweden gotten any better? I remember the Swedes invading Copenhagen on the weekends to get some decent beer.

[MajorTom]

Originally Posted by faultytowers

There's a lot of "freedoms" we'd like to have but unfortunately there are also rules and regulations which are in place and "at times" are enforced.

Whether we prefer afternoons/evenings/nights....or early mornings , someone is always going to be upset. I don't feel that closing everything down at the same time is boring , but I do feel it is stupid.Turning everyone out on to the street at the same time is just asking for trouble , as normally people just "filter" out when they have had enough.

I know previously a lot of late opening was ignored but when it becomes "in your face" (due to more places/later times) then I think it attracts too much attention , and results in "clamp downs".


P.S this is not an ex-army view.

I guess we agree then. And i think stupid might be a better word for it.

The "late" opening was not any more "in your face" than its been for a very long time. This was probably a temporary crackdown for various reasons. Anyway its over for now.

[MajorTom]

Originally Posted by ATMwalking

Absolutely. Part of the problem is you have people jetting in from all sorts of different time zones. 24 hour party works a lot better in that situation. Vegas doesn't close at 1am, nor should phuket.

Problem is not rule of law but rule of the day.

Everyone in phuket, officials included understands the issue. But they are powerless to do anything but enforce this moving target. They cut some more slack when they can, tighten things up when they must. Just have to roll with it.

Good observations. I believe this is very true.

[Aders]

hope some of the late night places will stay up!

[Aders]

and that this is only temporary !

[ATMwalking]

Originally Posted by blog401

I'm curious, do people here think is centrally driven i.e. goverment (General doo dah) or is it the local Pols flexing muscle. Basically, what's behind the headline??

Both. Fed government outlined closing times from 12am -2 am based on various criteria. As K2 outlined, those closing times will be strictly enforced from time-to-time. Other times it's more relaxed. Hence my comment on rule of the day (vs. fixed laws) that is being enforced.

[Golf]

Originally Posted by Nicke

Ofcourse Swedish youngsters love Denmark, 16 years old to buy alcoholic beverages compared to Sweden's 20 years old. (18 for bars and pubs)

I also went to Copenhagen when I was 16 or 17 with my schoolmates...

Nicke: That's the reason I go to Thailand