Alcohol advertising ban

[Nicke]

Look like the alcohol advertising ban is going through,

No more Johnnie Walker Classic in Thailand then. Also heard that the reason for it being delayed was the recent Johnnie walker classic in Phuket, but now after the tournament they decide to enforce it.

[easyrider_au]

I can't see that rule affecting bars or restaurants in Patong etc.

Don't govt's mainly do these things to try & avoid under age people from taking up drinking?

[Nicke]

No, it doesnt affect nightlife here, just feel sad if I cant visit any more major golf events here. Johnnie walker sponsored 4 events in Thailand since 1998 if I remember correctly, two in Bangkok and two in Phuket.

[Raw]

It does affect advertising companies.Know of a friend that just lost 2 major accounts from San Mig & johnny..

[Raw]

Singha does sponser golf events, and a few Thai pro's.wander whats going to happen to these events

[K2]

Think guys you might find it will affect Patong ... read the text ....

Thailand Approves Law to Ban Alcohol Ads | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle

Closed bars - no problems - except external advertising will need to be removed, but for beer bars ....

"The restrictions on advertising also cover any object used for advertising purposes, such as umbrellas and coasters, that display the logos of alcoholic products.

"This includes open-air beer gardens. They can sell beer but without displaying the brand logos," said Mongkol, adding that the ban will not apply to pubs and closed areas that serve alcohol."

Another grey area open for interpretation .

[the bigboy]

does it also mean u have to remove your botter holders with heineken on it ? ashtrays with alcohol brands on it, remove or cover the labels on the bottles,

[LivinLOS]

Did I also read that under 20 drnking was to start to be seriously enforced ??

Noot good for younger travellers..

[Dodger]

Just got an email from ROSSO, evidently they have received communication from the government on this issue and have to pull the advertising sponsorship on our Tuna Yahct and Guppyquarium, which is a real fecker as that was developing into a nice little income stream.

Dman better cancel that order for the new noodle stand!!!!

[IRISH JONNY]

this is a fcuking disgrace.........a great golf tournament that many went to see is to be cancelled...it bought a lot of xtra dosh in to los....it makes me sad.........

[Dodger]

They can still host the golf tournament IJ but have got to find new sponsors.

Heard they had signed up a few girls from Soi Bangla, who are working on it as we speak.

[IRISH JONNY]

Originally Posted by Dodger

They can still host the golf tournament IJ but have got to find new sponsors.

Heard they had signed up a few girls from Soi Bangla, who are working on it as we speak.

LOL..
MAYBE NICKE CAN SPONSOR IT?
IJ

[Denver]

Its a pain in the backside and a real shame IMHO. Same Same lots of other events that I used to be involved in (Not golf obviously....Before Dodger says it)

Tetleys, John Player Special, Benson & Hedges, Johnnie Walker, Embassy and lots of others I can't recall right now (i.e. Smoking and drinking) have all had to pull thier sponsorship of some great events.

Embassy used to sponser coarse fishing in the UK which is obviously not for the super fit and athletic but the point is that at least the sponsorship went down to those who actually use the product. i.e. I used to love a smoke while pulling out a few roach on the Rochdale Canal with the chance of winning a few bob at the end of it. Ah well, lets hope some tour events find thier way back to Thailand........It will be a shame to see them go.

I am willing to put my 'Guppyquarium' up for graps in the Mai Thai Grand Tuna Challenge..........and no, Dodger, just coz you caught a couple the other week doesn't mean you can come down and lift it.

It starts next time...........!

[ATMwalking]

Read this could be a WTO violation. A non-tarrif barrier against lesser known foreign brands.

Could this be another round about run at foreign companies/brands?

[TanMan]

And the advertising ban is supposed to reduce consumption, particularly amongst the youth....

But, it has been argued by the alcohol producers that banning advertising will only reduce a producer's ability to differentiate themselves from competitors. Absent branding, the best way to compete, will be to lower their prices (and they can because there is no more ad/sponsor bills to pay), leading to MORE consumption.

Maybe they should just put pictures on the alcohol bottles/cans of hemmoraghed livers, drastic vehicle accidents, people puking/p1ssing themselves, etc.. like they do ala cigarettes, which I read reduced consumption by 20%...

[ATMwalking]

Originally Posted by TanMan

Maybe they should just put pictures on the alcohol bottles/cans of hemmoraghed livers, drastic vehicle accidents, people puking/p1ssing themselves, etc.. like they do ala cigarettes, which I read reduced consumption by 20%...

Or what you could wake up beside after too heavy of a night drinking...

[TanMan]

Originally Posted by ATMwalking

Or what you could wake up beside after too heavy of a night drinking...

Yes, even better, that would be enough to put me on the wagon for a while...

[sundancekid]

Don’t really have a problem with a ban on alcohol ads (or cigs for that matter). My country’s had it for years. (Not that it has stopped --- or even slowed down --- us Norwegians from drinking, mind you).

But (with regard to "censoring") some of the Thai movie channels on UBC have gone a bit over the top as of late. Of course, they blur (or even entirely cut out) the nudity. Fair enough.

But… then they blurred people smoking, then someone putting a gun to someone else’s head and then people drinking a beer. Latest one I saw was blurring two people kissing?!!! (Reminded me of the last scene from Cinema Paradiso BTW. Oh, nice to see that Ennio Morricone finally got the recognition he so thoroughly deserved.)

Anyway, to get back on thread, not really concerned about the ads, but more disturbed about the censoring of artistic material.

Next big tournament up: The Speedo Classic?

[Dingo's]

I guess it will stop the promo items in the bars as well. i.e Beer coolers, lights, the jack daniel flyers they put in the soi's.

Will it really make a difference? Does anyone have any stats on how it's affected other countries that have taken this stance?

[Robaht]

Originally Posted by TanMan

Maybe they should just put pictures on the alcohol bottles/cans of hemmoraghed livers, drastic vehicle accidents, people puking/p1ssing themselves, etc.. like they do ala cigarettes, which I read reduced consumption by 20%...

Though you may have read it somewhere, I have a very hard time believing that cigarette consumption is down 20% because of the pictures on the packages. Mostly I see people making jokes about them - hey they are not scary they are conversation pieces. Plus, after you've seen them you just ignore them. Plus, the pulling of advertising of cigarettes in 7/11 etc has not had any impact on me, just like setting my watch ahead 5 minutes doesn't help -- who are they trying to fool?

I've just given up on trying to understand the Thai logic behind so many issues like this one...it's like you take logic and facts and through them out the window, then make a decision based on face or graft. Banning alcohol advertising must give the Thais "face" somehow.... or somewhere maybe the boys in brown are going to profit from "fines". Crazy days.

[Dingo's]

Very true Robaht,

I remember many years ago back in Australia when they were trying to bring in blank packaging on all cigarettes. See how far that went.... it didn't!

[dbaron]

When are these governments going to let people live their own lives and stop trying to rule what we do. I agree trying to discourage kids from smoking, drinkinkng excessively etc. But everything we do is starting to be over governed. In Australia no Cigarette advertising. Alcohol pricing going up by legislation every 6 months for example on beer $1.00 per 24 375ml bottle carton, and smokes 50 cents per packet. Thats every 6 months. The people these governments are cashing in on is not the kids who start smoking and drinking its the ones who already do!!!. Just another way of taking a further tax dollar. Same as the bulls*it we are fed about the rising cost of petrol. Iraq war, Threats to the USA, etc. Just more revenue for the government as we can't prove otherwise. Yes advertising these products might encourage some to use their product for the first time but most kids are now educated enough to know these products are not good for them not like us 40 somethings born in the 60's as the pitfalls of use where not readilly available for our knowledge. Why can't they just get over themselves and stop being driven by the USA ideals as most of the politicians do the same as us except we pay their wages. They do not pay ours. Maybe we should have a ban on politicians smoking or drinking or they are fired.

[azn]

does it matter if the ads are banned?
as long as the drinks are not banned it is ok for me