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09-10-2007, 22:05
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500 baht bar fine bars
Getting greedy some of these bar owners. Yet another of the Tiger bars has just gone from 300 to 500 baht fines. Can't see it's good business sense to me. It alienates regular customers (like me) and also the BGs...they used to get 200 baht from a 300baht bar fine...they still get 200 but from a 500 baht fine now from this particular bar. As a result, at least 2 of the bars best girls who have been there over a year have left.
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#2
09-10-2007, 22:22
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Just keep in mind bar owners face increasing rents and higher leasing fee's all the time, I dont like increased prices either but the real problem is the land owners/sub lease holders of those sois. With the high fee's currently charged for new contracts in Tiger I understand they have to charge more. They increased the leasing fee from 2m to 3m for a small bar this year. (For a 3 year contract) Crazy amount of money if you ask me.
I would prefer to continue keep Patong cheap and good value but as long the landlords charge more and more its not going to happen, and in a number of years Patong may have outpriced itself. (Sadly)
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09-10-2007, 22:46
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What are the barfines for Soi Eric?
 Last trip some ladies in some of the bars opposite MTB told me that now all the bars in that soi charge 500 baht barfine as well!?  No need to go to beerbars anymore if they charge almost the same as the GoGos Dragon and Rockhard (600 baht)!   Plahgat
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09-10-2007, 22:48
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Unfortunely thai landlords here don't give a fcuk as long as there are people ( mostly farangs) willy to lease (2 or 3 years) a small beer bar for millions of baht. Tell them ( landlords) that they are not so smart to do it and wait for their answer regarding the "smartness"of farangs!
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10-10-2007, 01:21
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If people are willing to pay higher prices it will result in people asking higher prices, a normal economical phenomenon. You described previously your unhappiness with increased pricing in Soi Eric but you are still willing to pay the higher prices. As long as anyone will follow in the practise of paying more anytime it is asked or 'required', prices will keep increasing. Furthermore I do not see a relation between prices paid for lease and mainly drink prices in Patong (and as per discussion bar fines). Prices seem to be put at such a level which is still acceptable to most customers. No relation between cost and profit is used as a basis to set sales prices. Examples can be made for several sales products... I do agree with your view that Patong should stay affordable. Not cheap but with acceptable pricing for a wide public.
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10-10-2007, 02:05
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Last year I tried to Bf a Bg from a Tiger bar and was told 500baht - not knowing it was the going rate there and thinking they were trying to scam me as a newbie - I said `no way` and they quickly offered 300baht.
Sadly though Nicke is right - bar owners face the pressure of exorbitant rents on the one hand, and punters not wanting their holiday baht to fly away too quickly on the other. But if enough punters are willing to pay 500 baht (forever chiselled on their gravestones that they are not `cheap charlies`) then more and more bars will be 500 baht, and then upwards and upwards and upwards..........
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10-10-2007, 02:22
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Are the bar owners only doing exactly what the soi owners are doing to them?? If the customer is willing to pay it, why not increase it?
No need to consider inflation or calculate it as a percentage to equal other increased costs, just put it up to whatever you can get away with!! The topic of barfines has been done to death previously but heck is it not becoming ridiculous when you compare a bf of 500bht to st or lt costs?
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10-10-2007, 02:36
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Sure does because we have the situation now where the bar fine is just about the same as some ST costs...the 2 BGs I'm referring to in the original post happily come ST during the daytime for 500baht each...together sometimes
 The idea of giving someone 500baht for the "privilege" of taking a girl away from a bar just doesn't appeal anymore!
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10-10-2007, 02:36
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Agreed. Never paid more than 300 B Barfine in Patong, and likely a smaller increase wouldn't seem as strange perhaps, but to raise to 500 in one go? Likely this here Judge will still sit in November at a soi Eric Bar, look through sambuca/tiger-tinted glasses at cute BG and think "Well, what the f**k, what is another 200 B?" wbr,
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#12
10-10-2007, 02:42
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I will go drink cheep beer in Soi Bangla 60-70bth, not
go to Soi Eric and Gonzo or the other sois for beer that cost 80-120bth same fun play game and talk with ladies. Then i go for a FL-lady outside Tiger for 500bth LT. I wish you good luck with your landlords.
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10-10-2007, 03:03
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500 from a beer bar is very expensive.......its the norm in most gogos......
thank fcuk its still only 200 in most beer bars in patts..ij
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10-10-2007, 03:11
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I charge 200 baht for barfine but I think 300 baht is more common, as I said in another thread when you said this last time. Not every bar charges 500 baht.
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10-10-2007, 03:18
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I dont agree with that, as long I make my living I dont want to charge more. I still charge 200 baht barfine, 120 baht for most spirits/whiskey and 100 baht for vodka or gin. I know I am among the cheaper ones in Soi Eric but I have no intention to charge more, even if I know I can get away with it.
But if my lease made me loose money then I had been forced to increase my prices. Quote:
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10-10-2007, 03:20
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I think 300 baht is the most common bf in Patong, still. But some bars have raised to 500 baht.
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10-10-2007, 04:35
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I'm with Nicke on this.
Its not like greedy barowners get rich from extorting their customers.. The optimal business for some soi owners now seems to be: If the bars make money - push the prices and take as much as possible of that profit.. Preferably all of it, theres always another sucker around the corner.. what do we care. Barowners take the risk - soi owners get rich. The recent developement is not good for anyone. Prices in Tiger more than doubled in 3 years. I dont think theres twice as many punters.. Add to that theres less girls around so many bars also pay salary to the girls now to keep them in the bar, hence - high barfines.
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10-10-2007, 07:02
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You dont see the connection between investment (startup or operating) costs and return on investment ??
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10-10-2007, 07:05
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Sam as how its been for as long as I have been here.. However I think it will get to a tipping point where the pricing will be detrimental to business soon.. Already people often seem to say "I could go out in xxxx" for that much.. And the xxxx places are not the third world..
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10-10-2007, 07:06
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I wonder how his business go since he states his occupation:Business owner
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10-10-2007, 08:40
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Don't worry folks!!!
In a few weeks time, when the Kamalala nightlife has all been mapped out by the Kamalala Hills Gang, we could all get our jollies over there as the rents probably haven't gone mental yet!!! Mind you, instead of high bar fines, we may have to pay for safe passage passes from the KBG!!!
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10-10-2007, 08:49
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Well a lot of the time the xxxx is Pattaya...I think there's an increasing number of people who now just build their holiday around patts and treat phuket almost like a Hua Hin or somewhere they'd take a few nights out of the main holiday to visit...
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10-10-2007, 09:11
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No I mean when mates of mine say "I could have a night out in <insert western country>" and NOT a 3rd world country.
I have got 15k in my wallet drawn ready for D Mans birthday bar crawl.. I might come home with some, I hope so.. But it wont surprise me to wake up with a sore head and an empty wallet again..
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10-10-2007, 10:00
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