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Old 05-01-2008, 12:35
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Red face Why not use a Gum Shoe?????

Now.. I read so many posts like my girlfriend is such a good girl when I go home for 6 months, she is only a cashier in the bar, she works at the beauty salon or has a "normal" job in patong. The thing is why don't you guys get a private ****... or just send a friend to do a little ground work. It is a lot cheaper then 30,000 baht a month just to find out 2 years later that your lady has 7 boyfriends, a Thai husband, 3 kids and couldn't cut hair with a flowbie! (suck and cut machine for those that don't know). Hmmm... suck and cut.. Hope I never get a girlfriend like that!

Anyway you all know the many posts that I refer to and many of us tippy toe around the fact that we think that there is a 99.9% chance the poor guys’ lady has not changed her ways. Also.. this may seem a bit big brother but why don't more people post pics of girls and list their experiences if any with them. May tip the power scales in favor of the honest Farang looking for love in the wrong places if the info proves to be accurate. Your thoughts......
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Old 05-01-2008, 12:49
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... however it is like this.... Of late the number of Farang trying to have a free feel or simply grab my girl is out of control. I do have a Thai lady that I and many others would say is in the top percentile looks and body wise however she dresses relatively conservative when we go out on the town.
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.... and many of us tippy toe around the fact that we think that there is a 99.9% chance the poor guys’ lady has not changed her ways..
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because their girl is 'different'.
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[quote=Flhai;424024]Now.. I read so many posts like my girlfriend is such a good girl when I go home for 6 months, she is only a cashier in the bar, she works at the beauty salon or has a "normal" job in patong. The thing is why don't you guys get a private ****... or just send a friend to do a little ground work.[/QUOTE]

Most do. There's no need to pay PI's exorbitant sums of money. It's easily done and over the years I've checked out several "girlfriends" on behalf of mates or people that have asked me and every single time the guys fears have been confirmed. I don't like doing it because I always know what the outcome will be. There's a classic case of this going on on another thread....you've posted on it yourself. It's a very difficult area. I think it's really best these guys don't know what their girls are up to when they are away...what they don't know can't hurt them.
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Old 05-01-2008, 14:06
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Cool What they don't know won't hurt them... until it does!

I used to agree with the what they don't know won't hurt them theory with Thai girlfriends however I have seen so many soft hearted guys get seriously hurt and why prolong things?

The naivety of many of our fellow farang is just unbelievable. To think that you can have a "girlfriend" that you see for 1 month a year and she will be nothing but loyal. I see from the lady point of view why the just see a buffalo with cash to burn. I have been in a situation many times where I have seen friends of friends (Bg's) work guys over on the phone and internet and then a month or two later I meet the guy and he is a genuine good bloke. Twice I have said nothing and twice I have filled them in. I think even though it may create problems for then and me I feel better if they are informed. It is not that easy for a girl to get a lot past me but if she did some help from someone would always be greatly appreciated.
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People know what's going on- they just don't want to accept the truth. Even when they are presented with the facts they still cling on to hope. For a good laugh and insight into the goings on read "Confessions of a Bangkok ****" written by a Kiwi PI based in Bkk for a number of years. Not getting drawn into this thread any further as I know the rose coloured glasse brigade will be jumping in and slamming me yet again for being a cynic. Strange how they've been burned and I haven't- Nuff said but the usual suspects will be here soon.
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Now.. I read so many posts like my girlfriend is such a good girl when I go home for 6 months, she is only a cashier in the bar, she works at the beauty salon or has a "normal" job in patong. The thing is why don't you guys get a private ****... or just send a friend to do a little ground work. It is a lot cheaper then 30,000 baht a month just to find out 2 years later that your lady has 7 boyfriends, a Thai husband, 3 kids and couldn't cut hair with a flowbie! (suck and cut machine for those that don't know). Hmmm... suck and cut.. Hope I never get a girlfriend like that!

Anyway you all know the many posts that I refer to and many of us tippy toe around the fact that we think that there is a 99.9% chance the poor guys’ lady has not changed her ways. Also.. this may seem a bit big brother but why don't more people post pics of girls and list their experiences if any with them. May tip the power scales in favor of the honest Farang looking for love in the wrong places if the info proves to be accurate. Your thoughts......

my thoughts are....why does anybody give a flying fcuk about the next guy's dilemna?
the only reason you are posting this is to stir shit and/or show everyone how "great" your relationship is

the one thing i hate most about my time in LOS and actually on this board, is everyone always suppose they have it better than the next guy or they know more than the next guy. never in my life have i ever saw anything like the second guessing and grandstanding like i have with all this kind of relationship talk like i have when it comes to LOS relationships. it is sort of sad, if you ask me
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my thoughts are....why does anybody give a flying fcuk about the next guy's dilemna?
the only reason you are posting this is to stir shit and/or show everyone how "great" your relationship is

the one thing i hate most about my time in LOS and actually on this board, is everyone always suppose they have it better than the next guy or they know more than the next guy. never in my life have i ever saw anything like the second guessing and grandstanding like i have with all this kind of relationship talk like i have when it comes to LOS relationships. it is sort of sad, if you ask me

Hey marc26... no grandstanding of my own relationship here. Just made the thread in response to a lot of what I read on here and get some points of few from some that may have insight and answer some questions posed in my mind..... Isn’t that what boards are for? I have genuine concerns for friend’s wellbeing and I see similar situations to those of mates on this board. Let's face it relationships in the LOS can be a mind felid and we all have different experiences and levels of experience. That's my thinking on it however some may just be here for a bit of fun and gossip... each to his own. I think it is a good thing that we have this tool. Cheers
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my thoughts are....why does anybody give a flying fcuk about the next guy's dilemna?
the only reason you are posting this is to stir shit and/or show everyone how "great" your relationship is

the one thing i hate most about my time in LOS and actually on this board, is everyone always suppose they have it better than the next guy or they know more than the next guy. never in my life have i ever saw anything like the second guessing and grandstanding like i have with all this kind of relationship talk like i have when it comes to LOS relationships. it is sort of sad, if you ask me
I have seen so much greed, deceit, cheating, and lies, and have been tempted to blow the whistle on some girls. But I feel the info I have learned has been revealed to me in confidence, and I am reluctant to break confidence with a friend, even one of dubious moral distinction, for the benefit of a "stupid buffalo" farang, who I don't know and will probably never meet. So I keep my mouth shut.

What is sad is that farangs come here to Thailand, meet girls with loads of experience, two days later are madly in love, and a week later are on the way home with stars in their eyes that make them blind to the fact that they have signed on to the "send a BG $1000 per month" program, for which they will, in the end, receive nothing but heartaches in return for.

If just one or two guys, read this thread, go out and hire a PI and find out the truth about "their" girl, then the "second guessing and grandstanding" has served a valuable purpose. On my 2nd tour, I offered to sponsor a girl, and was ready, willing, and able to fork over 30K Baht per month to her. Her BF showed up unexpectedly without telling her he was coming to LOS, and showed up at Tiger disco, where she was with me. He was money in the bank and I was possibly a bullshit artist, for all she knew, so she went with him. I was a stupid buffalo, offering myself to be scammed by her game.

Thirteen months later I found this board. For years still, I was one of the "rose coloured glass brigade," as I found it hard to admit that such "nice girls" can be such greedy, self-absorbed, totally unscrupulous con artists. But, believe me, many, if not most, of them are.

You are a lot smarter than most guys, Paul, and had the basic sense to take your time to get to know your girl and build a relationship over a number of years. But there are a lot of stupid buffaloes out there that need to read this shit, and need to hire a PI, if they don't already have a buddy, who can do the snooping for them.

I haven't given up on Thai women yet, but mainly just because the other options open to me do not seem better. So I play the game with them, and it can be great fun. But if I ever get serious, I will consider money spent on a top-notch PI the best money I ever spent. Actually, I think I have enough experience now to tell where I really stand with a girl and to trust my own instincts. BUT, I would still spend the money, anyhow, because that is how cynical Thai ladies have made me.

Anybody who has been around this scene for long knows what goes on, and knows what these gals are capable of. No harm in posting cautionary threads for the newbies, who are just fresh sheep waiting to be sheared.
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Great post JB, couldn't agree more on all yr comments....

Being here for 3 years+ now i've seen, heard and learned so much which has put me off TG's for life and thats not just BG's even the ones with "normal" jobs.

Fortunately for me thats not the reason i decided to live here but a nice trustworthy GF would have been a bonus.... I believe any advice that helps a newbie from falling into the usual traps and scams is advice well given...
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Yes, great post JayBee. I agree 100%.

The more ways in which what goes on can be brought to the attention of the naive the better. If I had a friend being duped, I would tell him; as indeed I would want to know myself.

I think it is also important to keep in mind also where one is looking for GF's. Bars are far from the ideal place. You wouldn't look for one late at night on a street corner in Leeds, would you.

In my early days in Patong, it was actually a FL who said to me, "If you want a GF don't look in bars or discos, look in offices, shops & restaurants". Though agreed as mentioned above you do even have to be wary there, but at least the odds are not so highly stacked against you.
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Great Post JayBee as usual.

It does need to be written. Even for non newbs this is a great reminder. Reality is the best reminder.

Even with all the great info on this board it still seems that occasionally that people turn a blind eye to it thinking that their situation is an exception. Not saying long timers, but ones that have spent little time with a tg and are sponsoring or ready to marry.
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i think that if the girl stays in the P4P area, then she is still going for it...

it's from their point of view the smart thing to do, not putting all your eggs in 1 basket....

when i sponsored, it was because i knew i was coming back permanently, and the girl went to her village to wait for me.

when i came back it wasnt what i thought it would be, and broke up, she had just wasted 7 months waiting for a man who in the end, decided to not take care of her, and i felt like a prick for making her wait for me...
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my thoughts are....why does anybody give a flying fcuk about the next guy's dilemna?
the only reason you are posting this is to stir shit and/or show everyone how "great" your relationship is

the one thing i hate most about my time in LOS and actually on this board, is everyone always suppose they have it better than the next guy or they know more than the next guy. never in my life have i ever saw anything like the second guessing and grandstanding like i have with all this kind of relationship talk like i have when it comes to LOS relationships. it is sort of sad, if you ask me

I sort of know the feeling of your post. A year ago I was thinking the same and got Kettled&Potted in large fonts for it55555

Anyhow, nothing more to add, JB said it all:-)
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and the girl went to her village to wait for me.

when i came back it wasnt what i thought it would be,

Found out she'd been back to stay with her Thai boyfriend?? ;-)
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but hang on chaps my girlfriend "IS" different - so now what do I do........555555555
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but hang on chaps my girlfriend "IS" different - so now what do I do........555555555

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Wise words JayBee.
"Heads Up" newbies.....and some not so newbies.
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Wise words JayBee.
"Heads Up" newbies.....and some not so newbies.
Too many guys seem to be living in Fantasy Land.

I don't think there's a need for a heads-up. This board is fully specked with discussions and information around this topic since many years, actually this thread would not have been necessary in this format and is a bit redundant.

As open minded as members are on this forum, every case is looked at individually
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