Why do BG get jealous if you butterfly

[Hepe]

Hello all BM

I’m a kind of newbee. I say that because I have read on this board nearly every day sins I was In Patong nov 2003 for 6 days, but I have never written here before.
I first will thank for this wonderful forum to Nicke and all BM for the good stories and answer.
Hope you understand my English J
Now I also have one or two questions
I read a lot about BG who Is very jealous if you butterfly, and this I don’t understand…Can someone explain to me why a BG, which I see as a ****** and can go with any man every night, and even sometimes have a LT BF, can be angry or jealous if you se someone else. I also read that if you just tell them before there would be no problems, but why, what’s the difference as I se it you pay for the girl 1000 bt for one night. I also have to say that I respect the BG very much, but still I don’t understand why they devote themselves to that. I think in any western country no ******s would ask if you butterfly ?
I read the word starfish a lot of times and what does it mean ??

Hepe

[Mac]

I am sure many people will have different opinions on this but my take is as follows. The average BG in Patong does not actually see herself as a ****** in the crack whre sense. Her job, escorting men and giving them pleasure, is a means to an end - to make money, usually for her family back home in the north. The holy grail for many BG's is to meet a "handsome" rich charming Farang and marry him. This path to utopia is beset with difficulties, not least of which are her scheming friends who will steal her customer as soon as blink.

Imagine you are a salesman and you have been working on a deal for some time and at the eleventh hour some other blighter from your organisation steals the deal away from you and takes the commission. How do you feel?

So, in order to prevent this the BG has learned that one way is to inflict guilt on the customer so that he will stay loyal to her. She can then take the commision and send the money back home. However, it can then get more complicated when you add in the Thailand culture, particularly face. It is a slight blow to your ego to lose your salesman deal, it is a quadruple blow to a BG.

Now we add in the spiritual aspect. Many BG's are deeply spiritual and spend a lot of time in the temple doing quite boring things to make merit so that Buddha will assist them in their utopian quest. If they do actually meet a charming handsome man - sic all BM's - then they are hugely keen to hold on to him as the path seems clear to utopian happiness. A butterflying BM is therefore a massive hit on all four levels:

a) Loss of immediate income
b) Loss of face with family and friends.
c) Loss of potential marriage partner.
d) Feeling that Buddha is displeased in some way.

This should not be taken too lightly either. It has been known, sadly and almost inexplicably to us, that BG's have harmed themselves in despair as a result of a casual butterfly.

Mac

[CalessaSSracer]

Cause you are her primary customer & she doesnt want to
lose money! its even worse if shes your "Teelak"
... Sorry my Air Force lingo

[mikegb]

Originally Posted by Hepe

Hello all BM

I’m a kind of newbee. I say that because I have read on this board nearly every day sins I was In Patong nov 2003 for 6 days, but I have never written here before.
I first will thank for this wonderful forum to Nicke and all BM for the good stories and answer.
Hope you understand my English J
Now I also have one or two questions
I read a lot about BG who Is very jealous if you butterfly, and this I don’t understand…Can someone explain to me why a BG, which I see as a ****** and can go with any man every night, and even sometimes have a LT BF, can be angry or jealous if you se someone else. I also read that if you just tell them before there would be no problems, but why, what’s the difference as I se it you pay for the girl 1000 bt for one night. I also have to say that I respect the BG very much, but still I don’t understand why they devote themselves to that. I think in any western country no ******s would ask if you butterfly ?
I read the word starfish a lot of times and what does it mean ??

Hepe

Hi,

Its because they are two faced bastards. Its ok for them to get humped by hundreds of guys , and extract money every month of weak willed people, but the moment they think they are going to lose 1 baht, they put a guilt trip on you and go nuts.

If this happens, fcuk them off straight away and dont feel any guilt.

You are no different to any other punter they have had. They look for the mugs and then try to bleed them.

Go on holiday, sort a price out with the girl you want, and pay her. Never cheat her. Buy her drinks and food if you want. Even some small presents if it makes you happy (I wouldnt).
When the time is up, either rent her for a bit longer, or get another. Dont fall for this shit of falling in love, unless you can be in Thailand a long time, or can bring them to you.

They are butterflys, not us.

[Coolhand]

A "starfish" refers to a girl who just lies there in bed, like a starfish washed up on the beach

[urtheman]

I agree!

Cheers!

Originally Posted by Mac

I am sure many people will have different opinions on this but my take is as follows. The average BG in Patong does not actually see herself as a ****** in the crack whre sense. Her job, escorting men and giving them pleasure, is a means to an end - to make money, usually for her family back home in the north. The holy grail for many BG's is to meet a "handsome" rich charming Farang and marry him. This path to utopia is beset with difficulties, not least of which are her scheming friends who will steal her customer as soon as blink.

Imagine you are a salesman and you have been working on a deal for some time and at the eleventh hour some other blighter from your organisation steals the deal away from you and takes the commission. How do you feel?

So, in order to prevent this the BG has learned that one way is to inflict guilt on the customer so that he will stay loyal to her. She can then take the commision and send the money back home. However, it can then get more complicated when you add in the Thailand culture, particularly face. It is a slight blow to your ego to lose your salesman deal, it is a quadruple blow to a BG.

Now we add in the spiritual aspect. Many BG's are deeply spiritual and spend a lot of time in the temple doing quite boring things to make merit so that Buddha will assist them in their utopian quest. If they do actually meet a charming handsome man - sic all BM's - then they are hugely keen to hold on to him as the path seems clear to utopian happiness. A butterflying BM is therefore a massive hit on all four levels:

a) Loss of immediate income
b) Loss of face with family and friends.
c) Loss of potential marriage partner.
d) Feeling that Buddha is displeased in some way.

This should not be taken too lightly either. It has been known, sadly and almost inexplicably to us, that BG's have harmed themselves in despair as a result of a casual butterfly.

Mac

[urtheman]

I agree with Mac and I agree with Mike.

Mac puts it very differantly than Mike.

One is romantic.

One is romantic with LB's

Originally Posted by mikegb

Hi,

Its because they are two faced bastards. Its ok for them to get humped by hundreds of guys , and extract money every month of weak willed people, but the moment they think they are going to lose 1 baht, they put a guilt trip on you and go nuts.

If this happens, fcuk them off straight away and dont feel any guilt.

You are no different to any other punter they have had. They look for the mugs and then try to bleed them.

Go on holiday, sort a price out with the girl you want, and pay her. Never cheat her. Buy her drinks and food if you want. Even some small presents if it makes you happy (I wouldnt).
When the time is up, either rent her for a bit longer, or get another. Dont fall for this shit of falling in love, unless you can be in Thailand a long time, or can bring them to you.

They are butterflys, not us.

[mikegb]

Originally Posted by urtheman

I agree with Mac and I agree with Mike.

Mac puts it very differantly than Mike.

One is romantic.

One is romantic with LB's

Hi Robert,

Yes, you are correct. For once I never mentioned ladyboys in my post, and my advice was very romantic. Thank you

[steven eleven]

I think they go nuts because, Thai people hate to loose face. If you drop a certain girl for another one, the first girl looses face and ...income.

[tomyam]

Originally Posted by mikegb

Hi,

Its because they are two faced bastards. Its ok for them to get humped by hundreds of guys , and extract money every month of weak willed people, but the moment they think they are going to lose 1 baht, they put a guilt trip on you and go nuts.

If this happens, fcuk them off straight away and dont feel any guilt.

You are no different to any other punter they have had. They look for the mugs and then try to bleed them.

Go on holiday, sort a price out with the girl you want, and pay her. Never cheat her. Buy her drinks and food if you want. Even some small presents if it makes you happy (I wouldnt).
When the time is up, either rent her for a bit longer, or get another. Dont fall for this shit of falling in love, unless you can be in Thailand a long time, or can bring them to you.

They are butterflys, not us.

Absolutely spot on as usual

tomyam

[tomyam]

Originally Posted by Coolhand

A "starfish" refers to a girl who just lies there in bed, like a starfish washed up on the beach

I had one of these on friday night , she even tasted of fish..

tomyam

[Hepe]

Originally Posted by mikegb

Hi,

Its because they are two faced bastards. Its ok for them to get humped by hundreds of guys , and extract money every month of weak willed people, but the moment they think they are going to lose 1 baht, they put a guilt trip on you and go nuts.

If this happens, fcuk them off straight away and dont feel any guilt.

You are no different to any other punter they have had. They look for the mugs and then try to bleed them.

Go on holiday, sort a price out with the girl you want, and pay her. Never cheat her. Buy her drinks and food if you want. Even some small presents if it makes you happy (I wouldnt).
When the time is up, either rent her for a bit longer, or get another. Dont fall for this shit of falling in love, unless you can be in Thailand a long time, or can bring them to you.

They are butterflys, not us.

Thanks for the answerd But it still will makes some trouble for you if yuo want to stick to a few bars, as i se it. If you have a girl from one bar you can't go to this bar again without trouble.....I just reat abaut Jay-Bee and the girl named Newt in Mai Thai bar just an example

Hepe

[Andi]

Mike, I am surprsied, Are U that CYNIX? But I loke your comment "utopian quest". I see U in July. I rememer the F-king drinvk U put on D table Wt straw and gas? And YES I am drunk so don't ask me. Khap Kun Khap ///ANDI

[alien]

i too had a starfish......she just laid there....and the smell down below was bearable...

[IRISH JONNY]

Originally Posted by alien

i too had a starfish......she just laid there....and the smell down below was bearable...

SO YOU DIDNT MIND THE SMELL.............
IJ