Education of son!!!!

[CeeGee]

In July both my son and I are visiting Phuket for the first time (He is nineteen) we are principally coming to spend time scuba diving but obviously we will have to have a nightlife. Both of us have travelled in Thailand Bali and Malaysia before, so we have a reasonably good idea of the way of life in this part of the world...
Now here is the dilemma. I want to show him around, let him experience the nightlife (his sex life is his own business as long as I do not have to pay for it) but I don’t want him to have a bad experience. When we were in Bangkok last (Patpong) we were advised that the “King” group of bars were generally regarded as “safe”. Are there any such groups in Phuket? I want him to be able to back and tell his mates about the good time he had and not how his Dad took him to some place where he had a bad experience. As far as I am concerned, I am old enough and ugly enough to take care of myself. Any recommendations please as to where I can take him, and where to defiantly avoid. We are going to be in Patpong for about ten days so we would be looking for shows, bars with life and generally have a good time. We are not two males whose prime objective is BGs (if it happens, it happens). I have lurked on this board for some time and it’s obvious that the BMs here are probably the best place for this info.
Thanks any suggestions would be most welcome.

[Baz]

to cee cee

for me every bar in phuket is safe unlike bangkok where there is some doggy areas.
depends where your staying in phuket but if it's patong then the best two bars for advise is the Mai Thai in Soi Eric ask for nicke who runs this forum and the Love bar under the tiger run by graham(gspot on forum) if you need some good advise about bars and go go to visit see them as your first stop.
if your into scuba diving then go to mai thai bar because lots of bm's and nicke do scuba dinving so could recommend some good dive companys for you. as good advise on the best women ask graham.

have a great time.
your have a great time, if your not into bg's 24-7 then phuket is 200% better then bangkok.

baz

[steve@thaib]

Good luck with this, and I hope you share your experience after. My son is 14 and I am curious about how you introduce a young man to Thailand. Keep us posted

[fun2have]

At 14 yrs whilst in singapore my father, a respectable teacher, took me to a street of orchard road and said to me pick the one you like.

I chose one about 20 i suppose he made a wise choice talked to the papasan and old massage girl about 30 yrs, was suggested.

Yes dad do the right thing and help the son learn from an expert.

We were back in tassie when my brother turned 14 unlucky him

[IRISH JONNY]

AS BAZ SAID PHUKET IS MUCH SAFER THAN BKK.JUST POP INTO MTB OR LOVE BAR AND THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF WILLING BMs TO SHOW THE TWO OF YE AROUND THE BARS........IM THERE MYSELF IN JULY.......
P.S. WELCOME TO THE BOARD......
IJ

[sxygirl]

when are u two going to be in bkk?? I will be there during songkran and i have an EXCELLENT taste in thai girls (no pun intended) so maybe my girlfriend and i could take him off your hands for a night or something and show him around hint, hint (only for culturally educational purposes of course) aint nothin wrong with 19 yr. old c**k just kidding, just kidding.

[CeeGee]

Dear Sxygirl
Having read your reply, I have to say I have never been more shocked in my life at your obvious attempt to lead my son into a path of moral degradation.
I understood that this forum was for enlightenment, education and not for discriminatory corruption. Yes I said discriminatory. Your attitude towards young and impressionable people is without forgiveness and I will have no hesitation in tracking you down and reporting you to the appropriate authorise both in Thailand and your home country.(where I am sure this kind of moral turpitude is illegal).


You are practicing the worst kind of discrimination “ageism”, you offer to corrupt my son but what about his father (me).Am I not worthy of your corruption, am I too “old” to be corrupted. I think not!!!

When you are nineteen, you can get all the corruption you can handle, but when you get a bit older, no one wants to know you. Who is paying for this lads flight,me, who is paying for his hotel,me, who will be buying the beers, me, who gets offers like yours,him! Is this fair??.I ask all BMs to condem this appalling attitude.
Please sexygirl, change your wicked ways before you are dragged even further downwards (possibly as far as my level) and remember, even you will be old one day.

Ps cannot find a tongue in cheek smiley .
PPS We wont be in Bangkok until second week of July, so we will sadly miss you (you will just have to find someone else to corrupt, lucky b*s*ard).
Have an excellent time and remember, if you come across a pile of elephant poo in the road, treat it as a roundabout,.

[tintin]

Ceegee, the scene is a bit different then in BKK.

The castel group gives shows upstairs, stiptease ping-pong games and that kind of stuff.

In Patong, there are most of "drinking-bars", where there are also girls, who you can invite for a drink and can take to your hotel-room afterwise. Except, some dancing on the bar, no shows are performed here. These bar are "outside", everybody can pass by.

There are a few go-go's in Soi Seadragon. They are poor compared to the Bkk one's and if I am not mistaken, no nudity is allowed.
But in the beer-bars, contact is easaly made, not only with girls, but also with other guys, like the bm's in MT-bar.

It is just like a big open air pub, where you can take the girls back home!

See that you are French, I live also in France in the Var. So if you want more info, always welcome!

et "bonnes vacances"!

[stevem]

Remember the legal age for entering licensed premises is 20 years.

[Allybabba22]

Originally Posted by stevem

Remember the legal age for entering licensed premises is 20 years.

Well prostitution is also illegal I know which one I would be more about

Sorry Stevem, Couldnt help it

[sxygirl]

dear ceegee, my deepest apologies for my immoral comments toward your impressionable son....instead of YOU!!! seriously, my jaw dropped for the first half of the page and i thought you were honestly very, very mad. i didnt know wether to be irritated that u were being uptight or to feel really, really badly for insulting your son. i was soooooo glad to get to the bottom of the page!!! lol lol lol For the record i think older men can be sexy too it just sounded so fun , the idea of corrupting some cute little innocent virginal euro. boy

[geespot]

Very good post mate

You can pop by my bar with your son 'Love Bar' Soi Tiger, I will be more than happy to provide any advice I can give. Dont come too late i.e. after about 1.30am as Ive usually forgotten my name by then

G

[mikegb]

Originally Posted by geespot

Very good post mate

You can pop by my bar with your son 'Love Bar' Soi Tiger, I will be more than happy to provide any advice I can give. Dont come too late i.e. after about 1.30am as Ive usually forgotten my name by then

G

geespot is easy to find. Just look for the person that has 'Jock' tatooed on his right hand , and '****' tatooed on his left hand.

This is to help him remember who he is after 1.30am

[eurogirlinthai]

Wow, I am just really disgusted by these boards at times. But this one kind of takes the cake. Let me tell you a little something about "educating" your boy! He DOESN*T need it. I highly doubt he wants you to be his buddy, your his Dad, act like it. I will not even get into my personal opinion on the whole prostitution/bar girl scene but I hardly think your doing your dear old son a service by condoning or trying to lead him into this. Perhaps you are the one that needs the education? Boys that age are adults and will do what they want to do, let him do that with his mates and you can be his Dad setting better examples and challenging him to be a better person with higher morals. What he does in his own time is his thing, but on your time I really cannot believe you are even considering being a peripheral party to this.

Just to let you know a bit about me, I regularly date younger guys, yes even his age. I am in my early 30's btw. I am very young acting and it suits me better. I am no moral-high ground person and am very free and open about sex. Living in Thailand has changed my mind a lot though. The entire scene is a bit sleazy to say the least. I'll tell you another funny story about educating your son: I was at a hotel having a drink and a 45+ year old englishman hit on me, he was not attractive to me in the least though for his age many would say he was. He had a teenage son with him who was quite attractive. Dad went to the loo, and on his way back we said good-bye to dad! Perhaps your son can give you an education?

[river]

Originally Posted by eurogirlinthai

Wow, I am just really disgusted by these boards at times. But this one kind of takes the cake. Let me tell you a little something about "educating" your boy! He DOESN*T need it. I highly doubt he wants you to be his buddy, your his Dad, act like it. I will not even get into my personal opinion on the whole prostitution/bar girl scene but I hardly think your doing your dear old son a service by condoning or trying to lead him into this. Perhaps you are the one that needs the education? Boys that age are adults and will do what they want to do, let him do that with his mates and you can be his Dad setting better examples and challenging him to be a better person with higher morals. What he does in his own time is his thing, but on your time I really cannot believe you are even considering being a peripheral party to this.

Just to let you know a bit about me, I regularly date younger guys, yes even his age. I am in my early 30's btw. I am very young acting and it suits me better. I am no moral-high ground person and am very free and open about sex. Living in Thailand has changed my mind a lot though. The entire scene is a bit sleazy to say the least. I'll tell you another funny story about educating your son: I was at a hotel having a drink and a 45+ year old englishman hit on me, he was not attractive to me in the least though for his age many would say he was. He had a teenage son with him who was quite attractive. Dad went to the loo, and on his way back we said good-bye to dad! Perhaps your son can give you an education?

You may as well get all the young guys you can before it's to late I'm surprised they find an old slapper like you even remotely attractive surely it can't be your personality.

You cannot hope to understand the relationship a father has with his son this is more to do with male bonding, the fact that he gets to shag a few hot Thai chicks is just an added bonus.

Good on ya dad!

[eurogirlinthai]

Haha, yeah, an old slapper, right. Fortunately my wallet has nothing to do with the attraction, can you say the same?

Male bonding my ****! Male bonding is for mates, he is the father, he should act like it. I do not see how shagging some hos is male bonding, to me, if it is going to be done, it should be done with one's mates, not with ones dad!

[river]

Originally Posted by eurogirlinthai

Haha, yeah, an old slapper, right. Fortunately my wallet has nothing to do with the attraction, can you say the same?

Male bonding my ****! Male bonding is for mates, he is the father, he should act like it. I do not see how shagging some hos is male bonding, to me, if it is going to be done, it should be done with one's mates, not with ones dad!

It is a hard concept for a woman to grasp I didn't think you would understand this is why time with the father is critical at this stage of a young mans life, any guy who has a good relationship with his father will know what I'm talking about.

[eurogirlinthai]

So Dad's frequent *****s with their sons? And what mom sits at home and waits and that is teaching your kid good values? Even if the Dad is divorced, he need not take his son to a *****, he can enjoy and bond with his son in a thousand other ways, that I am all for!

[Tarzan]

I agree with eurogirlinthai that it is strange that a father wants to "teach" his son about the nightlife. He is old enough to learn by himself...

But eurogirlinthai, try to calm down a bit.. Dont come here and be a moral police. Leave the board if it is things you dont like, or just skip those posts....

[LivinLOS]

EuroThaiGirl, I respoded to your other thread before I saw this.. Sorry to say it but you are coming accross as the stereotypical bitter western woman..

This guy has made it clear thier objective is Scuba Diving and not the BG scene.. However they are coming to a place where the girls will go crazy over his young son and in his interest of protecting him a little but not hiding him from the reality of the world, he just wants to make sure things are as safe as possible for him.. He has said he isnt going to pay for anything for his son just behave as two adult males be in an environment where sex is 'on the cards'.. Whats so freaky about that..

Your reactions are really showing like you have a chip on your shoulder.. Its odd cause I know quite a few girls / women (a couple of Dutch ones in the bunch) that really enjoy going out in the bars.. They dont look down on working girls and treat the great strong female characters they meet like sisters.. they get treated great back in turn and everyone has a laugh.. These girls can seem to enjoy the wild life of Thailand without feeling threatened by, or in competition with, it..

[eurogirlinthai]

That particular post just really bugged me. I know a lot of young guys and think they would rather die than do those kind of things with their dads. In fact many of them would not be to keen on doing it at all. (young guys are a LOT different today than ever before). It also makes me worry due to health issues and if Dad is saying, yeah its ok go ahead son, safety issues may not be followed if you understand me.

Trust me I am not moral police, I am as wild as they come myself, I am admittedly turned off by the opportunist nature of the Thai scene (believe in giving it away I guess), but again believe in everyone's right to live as they want. So do not get me wrong, it is not a moral issue, though in this case it kind of is as its just plain weird! But point taken.

[Allybabba22]

Sorry but where are these young guys you know from? Because im a young guy who hangs out with lots of young guys and believe me all of them would love to be coming with me on my next tour in april.

So I dont know where your getting your imformation from but its a load of crap, Honestly the only ones I know that didnt was my cousin but only because he was fearful of catching something which is normal I guess.

But other than that the only other ones I know that wouldnt are ones who are in long term relationships and the really good looking guys (They shag them for free)

[LivinLOS]

Yeah my little brother has been coming to Asia for a few years now.. He keep bringing his mates.. Not a damn one of them didnt take to it like a duck to water..

[andy50]

eurogirl,i have a nephew of 19 ,if as you say,you would go with a boy of this age and assuming you are about 33,i can assure you my sister would tear you to pieces!