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29-03-2005, 21:43
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Well it's clear alot of people do disagree and get very judgemental over perfectly acceptable comments. I have been shrugged off before because of my age a number of times.
Another assumption thrown at me. How am I trying to force my opinion on people? It's my opinion and I couldnt care what everyone else thinks about it. They should not be so judgemental. 
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29-03-2005, 21:54
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What I say indirectly is just your opinion so I would appreciate it if you didn't say "You think you're better than everyone else". I deleted posts because the thread(s) had become absolutely ridiculus and I don't think you can disagree with that not to mention they where completely off topic. "Onto the age thing", Maybe you should change your details back a few years.
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29-03-2005, 21:54
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wny not lay of eurogirl , she is after all making a valid point and this is an open forum and have we not said in the past that the is not enough ladies on this forum who contribute . anyhow Eurogirl,after a quick read of your intial post(yes my boss is around) have you tried using the big theme bars i.e hardrock ,planet holly wood etc etc ? when i have been in Bangers many a time i have found bars that the b.g scene is not present,even when its right amoungest it , i.e shamrocks bar patpong market, irish exchange Is in Silom, Soi Convent,Dubliner Irish pub. It's on Sukhumvit Rd. between Soi 22 and 24. aswell as the theme bars. i can also relate to asking farang girls to pretend to be with me ,done it a few times even in patong just to have peace and quiet. best of luck to you and please keep posting new blood is always needed
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29-03-2005, 21:58
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OK livinLos, I have probably a higher threshold than most women. I used to go to banana bar in Amsterdam on a regular basis and go see sex shows at the Moulin Rouge in Amsterdam with a gf of mine etc. It really is just the agressive game I hate. I do not mind being around flirty girls who are out on the pull, I do hate seeing girls scurrying to every man that walks in no matter how he looks and first one there "goes to work" so to speak. It is not that I don't tolerate it, it is just boring to me. To give you an example I saw a hot guy when I was out one night here in BKK. About 10 girls at various times were hanging on him, he eventually got rid of them and came over and spoke to me. I know he was not there for them, he wanted to have a drink and talk to people. Turned out he was an aussie backpacker, really cool and we had a great time. My point is that the whole situation is kind of clouded by that scene and had we just been in a place where there weren't BG's we would have had an easier time meeting. It is just an example of what I mean. not all guys are out for that and for a single girl I would rather be around like minded people than in that situation if you follow.
As for your wife's experience. Tell her not to feel bad, in Dubai the men used to chase me to the loo while their wives sat in burkas and ask me how much when I was exiting the loo. It is just the way it is if you stand out, whether it is because your attractive, different, or whatever.
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29-03-2005, 22:03
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I have never posted so much on any forum in my life, you guys are passionate here.
Eric where you from? Jag är själv halv svensk. Thanks for the welcome! Yes I have tried all those and some are great, I will be at Irish Exchange Thursday night for sure, love it there, Like Robinhood, Hardrock is just too damn crowded if you come just for the bar. So yes I do know that trick, I am more worried about getting to Phuket at this point as I have had experiences now in Pattaya and Hua Hin and hope it does not follow those patterns.
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29-03-2005, 22:03
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Now,Now!!! Dont be so childish  Your only showing your true age and you dont want to do that now do you   PS: Yes your right thats "My Opinion" and just because someone does not like it, Does not mean I cant express it because then I would not be true to myself, And I dont do fake
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29-03-2005, 22:06
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Jaws, Try Amigo bar. A few steps past Playschool in Soi Seadragon. I've seen them drinking tins of cider over there. Not my drink but certainly the owners favourite. Price is far more expensive than a beer if I remember. Cheers Captain
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29-03-2005, 22:06
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check out the Galaxy on the soi where the Expat is located, one block north of Bangla Raod on Rat-u-thit on the right hand side. It's a club with live thai music in a relax atmosphere favor by the locals.
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29-03-2005, 22:10
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29-03-2005, 22:14
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Yeah the posts sure are flowing in this thread aren't they !!!
Firstly and most importantly.. Strongbow bottles and blackthorn cans are in lots of places.. Having lived in Scrumpy country cider has too many bad memories but I see it quite regularly.. I think you will find Phuket a LOT better than Pats.. Pats really is sin city and I myuself can only handle a few days of the place.. The gogo's there can be a riot for a guy but how long can that hold your attention.. However you ARE going to be exposed to the BG scene if you are out in Patong but I am getting the vibe that the more normal Bangla bar type places will not give you a problem.. They are places to have a drink and talk with other farang (and Thai) drinkers.. The Roo would be my best suggestion for this kinda place.. I hope you do find what you are hunting for.. I know women that love it but my impression from most of them is they get a solidarity vibe with the BG's.. A lot of the girls I know / knew are the 'diamond tooth lil' type and enjoyed the hard drinking, hard ****ing attitude of the BG's..
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29-03-2005, 22:17
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Ok now you have dropped down kindergarden level, And I apologise now but I refuse to be dragged down that far, So seeing as you have finally shown your true colours thats where I will leave it, THE END............
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29-03-2005, 22:23
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Livinlos, I am that that type no doubt. I will sit and do shots until I am naked on a bar dancing, no prob. I like the BG's as people and my first week here was in Patpong waaaay after hours hanging out with about 10 of them having the time of my life trying to learn thai when drunk, teach them some more english etc. It is the scene I hate, add the "business" side of it and then you have too much bs going on peripherally for my taste. I hope I am starting to paint a more accurate picture of myself.
Friday when I am done at work, I wanna sit at a bar and get pissed out of my head without annoyances and preferably with cool fun people. saturday...out on the pull! Aagain no peripherals, thai girls more than welcome to be wherever I am, and HELL YEAH cute thai guys are much more than welcome to be anywhere near me as long as they are not looking for a meal ticket!
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29-03-2005, 22:26
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er.. Going in my Ignore list !!! Bye
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29-03-2005, 22:30
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Starting to think you will do fine here.. This aint Pats.. This is not as in your face as Nana / Cowboy / etc..
Even in the BG scene one of the reasosn so many people like the phuket scene is most girls are looking for long termers etc as they are for fast $$$.. We will never know till you get here.. Make sure you give us your impressions if you dont stay a regular member..
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29-03-2005, 22:44
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I will do, but wll probably post pretty regular for the time being, you need a woman point of view here now and then I think. I also would love to start a thread for women who like thai men, we are such a neglected group!
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30-03-2005, 00:41
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You are going to the wrong places.
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You are simply going to the wrong places. FULL STOP. If (in Phuket) you only frequent Patong, and some of the bars in Kata/Karon, then you will come away with the impression that you have. But if you go to the right places in Phuket Town, you will have a different impression. The same is true in Bangkok. You can go to the places where the P4P (pay for play) scene is located, or you can go to the places where the Thai crowd (who are not into the P4P scene) hang out. From what I have read, most people who post on this phuket-info.com forum are men. And a lot of the men who follow phuket-info.com, are not necessarily interested in going to the clubs where the non P4P scene is located. Why? Because most women in those places simply do not go to bed with the man after meeting them for one night. Instead it takes much more time before both parties become intimate. Well if one only has one or two weeks, and if a man wants to get laid a number of times on a vacation, why waste one's time developing a slower, more traditional, Thai relationship? Especially when one can laid in minutes, at a place in Patong Beach, or in Bankgok in Sukhumvit or Patpong? I understand your point, but I think the feelings you are expressing are the classic feelings of a western woman, when confronted with the P4P scene that is open to all sexes in Thailand. And I say "all sexes", because don't think this scene is only for the men. If you research the web a bit, you will find a lot of Japanese women come to Phuket (and also Cambodia) to meet local Thai (or Cambodian) men. But in this case the money flows from the Japanese lass to the Thai (or Cambodian) man. It is also a P4P scene, albeit attempts are often made to blur the boundaries by calling it "romance tourism", as opposed to "sex tourism". But cut to the core, and its all the same.
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30-03-2005, 00:59
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You need to read through all my posts Void. I am not opposed to the pay for play scene and I do know that women pay for it, read a huge article about HIV in Japan from the sex tourism of Japanese women. Even read about English and Aussie girls in Bangkok that go to boy bars and pick their lay!
It was not opposition, it was that I am coming to Phuket to live and after living several months in BKK and visiting Pattaya and Hua Hin I am hoping that there will be more to do than encounter bar girls and the p4p scene. I have certainly gone out in BKK without having to run into that, though after hours places are ALL about that and with early closing times that is mostly what I am *****ing about. I also wanted to get feedback. This was no judgement on people this was merely a question that I have been repeatedly attacked for asking. I also stated I quite like thai men so would be very open to finding out where locals hang out in Phuket. I regularly go to the pub here in BKK and love it, and BTW I like Thailand and find loads of other stuff to do, this was my one complaint!
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30-03-2005, 01:07
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30-03-2005, 01:11
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Cheers! Much appreciated advice!
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30-03-2005, 01:13
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Hi Eurogirl, The main point i want to make is that many people do not seem to do any research whatsoever about the destination they are about to choose. If these parents with their young sons where to ask me if pattaya would be a good destination for them then the answer would be a deifnate NO, explaining that pattaya is known as ''bangkok on steroids'' I have seen couples who look offended in pattaya with my own eyes and can't help but think ''why did you come here?'' ''did the travel agent not advise you?'' There are many places in thailand - ie phi phi islands - Krabi - Koh Samui - many places in the north etc... where the action is either almost non existant or very toned down comapred to bangkok - pattaya etc.. There is vast amounts of info all over the internet which can be easily found which would point someone looking to get away from the thai/farang scene. On the subject of discos which are pickup places for farang men with thaigirls (freelance ******s) - again there are discos which are full of farang like banana disco in patong - tai pan & tiger in patong on the other hand will have freelancers around. There are discos for almost ''thai only'' which may suit you also. However i think your comments are harsh, I myself am not a fat ugly man who cannot get a woman, have had many gf's and admirers over the years and still have a few admirers now at age of 33 in my life here in the uk. I have seen men of all kinds with thai women - young - old - handsome - ugly - wierd - gorgeous and so on. It ain't simply all about sex either- don't get me wrong - we all like that part but we also like thai women for many other reasons- good company, learning about other cultures etc.. Try not to be so closed minded about others in the future as it always leads to a negative life
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30-03-2005, 01:25
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I have qualified my comments. I was using the fat old farang thing more because that is what my female Thai friends say, it is kind of like saying BG's I guess. I have seen hot guys with these girls also, I know its not all old fat lonely guys, but proportionately that is why I think the thai girls say it and that has also been my observation.
I have also seen horrified people, Pattaya was the worst and I saw little boys, and I mean 12, being practically hit on and literally petrified. It is sad people are not warned, they shoudl be. I think if I had one complaint about Thailand it is that this aspect is kept pretty hidden from the family type tourist, I know this because I work in the tourism industry thus why I am in Thailand. The aspect of liking Thai women for cultural exchange etc. I love thai men as well, so I do understand that. On the same token the attitude by some posters here that everyone has to love the p4p scene or they are judegemental is also wrong. It is also wrong to assume, as some posters have, that all red-blooded males would be jumping for joy to be around this, as I pointed out many do not like it for many reasons; some are scared of disease, some scared of the girls themselves due to their rather forward ways, and some just do not like asian women. I am all for live and let live, but that includes my right not to like it!
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Point taken Eurogirl, I sometimes question myself as to why i go thailand and pay for sex, however you have to understand that as ridiculous as this might sound you don't actually feel like a prostitutes customer. Often if you stay with one lady for a longer period of time it feels more like a girlfriend experience and you will find that underneath the seedy exterior of the scene that most men crave comapionship here, myself included. However the trick is not to fool yourself as deep down you know its a business transation and you will pay them for their time. I was a little distubed by you other post that you would actually think the members here are not at all seemingly concerned about HIV. I have to disagree and as a new member here you will not have witnessed that this subject regularly comes up again and again on the forum and other thai forums for that matter, all the other diseases are discussed in detail as well. I can't say that all here wear a condom every time and i myself have slipped up on the odd occasion but in general i/we enevour to keep things as safe as possible, a lot of showers are taken in los - thai & farang which does help to keep things as clean as possible. I had a test recently and was negative but the fear was very real for me so don't think we go there with a brazen attitude about this. There are so many places you can go for a night out which does not involve the bg/lb scene or at least getting picked up on. Karaoke, bowling, a nice restaurant by the sea, whatever floats your boat really. did you not try the Q bar in Bangkok ? If not, you should have. I sinceely hope you find the kinds of enjoyment you are looking for and not let something which seems trivial to us guys spoil your time in thailand. But to be honest, in phuket you will find the scene far more relaxed and guys who pay for thai women very nice and decent people to know, i love phulet for its chilled out ambience and relaxed friendly atmosphere and i'm sure you could too.
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