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Old 13-06-2005, 02:09
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Hey give nick a break and don't get on his friggin case about!!! He is making a valid and honest point in own personal opinion. If he feels that is the best way for him and ensures what he feels gives him a better chance of meeting the right girl in LOS for him then so be it. I'm sure a lot of BM's have thought about that question themselves
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Who are you? His father?
I think nickboyuk is old enough to speak for himself without you putting your nose into it....

And who are you to take moral stands about posts and espessialy reps?
Go out and play on the highway or something...
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Old 13-06-2005, 02:33
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BG v NBG

Pleased to see this has got a debate going. Just to put the record straight I have been with many bar girls in my life, but not got seriously invloved with one in Thailand. Nearly did in Pattaya 2 years ago, didn't ask for money, and she was lovely too, but I thought she was gettin a bit too heavy and I wasn't looking for love then.
Anyway I just though that trying to get to know a girl, whatever she does, before you go out there is a good idea. I am chatting to a lovely woman in Muang Nakawn Rachasima, but it may not lead to anything. Shall meet up and see what happens.
As an aside when I was in the Navy and a young man I used to fall in love with BGs from all over the world every 5 minutes - Hong Kong and Singapore being my favourite. So I still haven't learn't.
I don't mean to be dissing BGs. at the end of the day they are doing a job because they are desperate to get out of the life that they have, if that makes sense. All that concerns me is that you may love them , but could they love you and not only be wanting your money.
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Old 13-06-2005, 03:48
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Who are you? His father?

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And who are you to take moral stands about posts and espessialy reps? ...
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Glad someone else picked up on that - my sarcastic post earlier in the thread seems to have been overlooked.
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Old 13-06-2005, 08:56
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Glad someone else picked up on that - my sarcastic post earlier in the thread seems to have been overlooked.

If you don't mind, when you are being sarcastic, could you be a little more so. Your sarcasm was so understated, that without being able to hear the tone of your speaking voice, I'm not sure anyone could tell you were being sarcastic.

Try using one of these next time -

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P.S. I am not being sarcastic!
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Old 13-06-2005, 14:35
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Clever girl - stupid girl-BG -non BG-??? All over the world you can find different girls. Why do you go to Patong. Because of the healthy smoke?
By the way, I could see a lot of very clever and bussiness minded BG´s in Thailand.
Have a lot of fun guys.
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Old 13-06-2005, 15:03
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It is fantastic to get a girl out tof the bar....

But I am honnest, if I were single again, I would know where to look and that would not be in the bar!

Don't get me wrong, great girls out there, but I think there are other possibilities if you want a serious relation!

But....if you are having just fun with the bg's, don't say that you will NOT fall in love! Always possible and then of course, then you do NOT care where she is from.
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Old 13-06-2005, 17:23
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Hey.
Who are you? His father?
I think nickboyuk is old enough to speak for himself without you putting your nose into it....

And who are you to take moral stands about posts and espessialy reps?
Go out and play on the highway or something...

Ummm... and where do you get off taking "high ground" and having a go at nick for speaking his mind when he is just saying what he feels in a non invasive way!?!?!

If you don't like what he says then why attack him??

Half the reason there are 3 million questions and no topical debates on this forum is because people like you attack other people when they are not trying to flame anyone in the first instance but just trying to put across their own point of view. I personally couldn't give 2 ****s what u say or think about me, but give other people the courtesy to say what they feel without having a go at them......as it makes it much more interesting to hear other people's point of view even if you may not agree with what they say.

Just politely disagree or don't answer at all.
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Old 13-06-2005, 17:58
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Hey.
Who are you? His father?
I think nickboyuk is old enough to speak for himself without you putting your nose into it....

And who are you to take moral stands about posts and espessialy reps?
Go out and play on the highway or something...
55555555 that was Tarzan being polite.

Just joking Tarzan, correct me if I'm wrong Richie but Tarzan makes a valid point in his first post re: bg's and their history and you were the one who then attacked him. now kiss and make up
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Old 13-06-2005, 21:39
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I say stick to the bg's for a stress/stalker free holiday

Barcardi73

That is very good advice in my opinion.

With respect to opinions, I too think that Void is guilty of nothing other than putting his point of view across in a civilised manner. All of us can sometimes feel that we are being got at but if we all try to give measured responses in these discussions, the temperature shouldn't rise too high.

I like to hear what everyone has to say and I'm always ready to question my own ideas and beliefs as much as anyone else's.
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Old 14-06-2005, 08:13
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Half the reason there are 3 million questions and no topical debates on this forum is because people like you attack other people when they are not trying to flame anyone in the first instance but just trying to put across their own point of view.
You are wrong there richie boy...

Half the reason is because you pest this board with childish surveys all the time..
"New BG's photos......the best u have had...only pics........if u dare" Have you posted any pics here yet or still dont know how to resize them?

" Patong Vs Pattaya - Round 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Cant wait for round 2....

"Have you tried living with a BG before??" Have you taken the "challange" you talk about and lived with a BG yet or was that only talk?

"Do Bar Girls care about the size of your "Banana" ???" Something you want to talk about? Insecure in yourself and your size?

"Who was the sluttiest & dirtiest bar girl that you've had? What did she want to do?" So a nal is the only thing you can come up to? Im impressed....

You want me to go on?

Honestly, I would love to flame your ass so hard that it would smell roasted pig all the way to Sweden, but since i am a nice boy, i wont. But i can admitt that i dont like you...

Thats the end of me answering to your posts here. (notice: here...)

bye richie boy....
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Old 14-06-2005, 08:17
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Oops.....

3 green boxes and one red in this thread....

What you got richie boy....
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Old 14-06-2005, 13:17
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I don't want to add spice to this....

Tarzan says what he thinks, that can be very positive, but I have to agree that maybe sometimes he could put it another way.

About Ritchie, let the man have fun! That is what we are here for in the first place. I skip things that do not interest me, so why just not do that!

Peace on earth, would be such a nice utopia come true!
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You are wrong there richie boy...

Half the reason is because you pest this board with childish surveys all the time..
"New BG's photos......the best u have had...only pics........if u dare" Have you posted any pics here yet or still dont know how to resize them?

" Patong Vs Pattaya - Round 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Cant wait for round 2....

"Have you tried living with a BG before??" Have you taken the "challange" you talk about and lived with a BG yet or was that only talk?

"Do Bar Girls care about the size of your "Banana" ???" Something you want to talk about? Insecure in yourself and your size?

"Who was the sluttiest & dirtiest bar girl that you've had? What did she want to do?" So a nal is the only thing you can come up to? Im impressed....

You want me to go on?

Honestly, I would love to flame your ass so hard that it would smell roasted pig all the way to Sweden, but since i am a nice boy, i wont. But i can admitt that i dont like you...

Thats the end of me answering to your posts here. (notice: here...)

bye richie boy....

Well just finished my tenth tour of duty in Phuket 10 days ago so I've got nothing to prove to you kid who seems to be acting like someone who doesn't know when he is wrong

I'm not interested in what you think because most of it involves flaming other people but just be nice to other BM's

Good boy
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Old 14-06-2005, 21:45
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Getting back to the title of the thread BG vs nonBG

I don't think a person can think this way. There are many girls here who are not bar girls but have certainly been with more guys than some pornstars. I think compared to girls from Hong Kong and Singapore, Thai women certainly seem to have more fun for themselves.

Living here I have put some rules for myself on the type of girls I date:

1. They must not have more than two tatoos of their former boyfriends name on their bodies.
2. No more than 8 tatoos total on their body. ( I hate tatoos on the neck or above)
3. No more than one diamond in the tooth of their mouth.
4. Less than 5 kids (Yep thats a biggy for me)
5. Must not smoke more than two packs of cigs a day.
6. Must not drink more than 2 pints of Sansome a day.
7, Must wake up before 4pm (don't wont a lazy one)
8. Must remember my name when having sex.
9. Must not text her secret sponsor while we are having sex.

Yeah I know some of you guys think I'm being a bit strict here but you must establish clear boundries for yourself so you won't wind up with a girl from the wrong side of the tracks.

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Old 14-06-2005, 22:05
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Not more than 4 brothers and sisters going to univ.
Not both parents sick,together with buffalo.
Not more than 3 shoping trips a week (never ask the question:"what you want to do today, as the answer is shopping).
Not more than 4 phone calls at night, where the only one who wakes up is you (after 03 AM).
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Old 15-06-2005, 02:59
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I don't think a person can think this way. There are many girls here who are not bar girls but have certainly been with more guys than some pornstars
Great Post Robert .

and i can promise you that we have this girls in Sweden to , that for sure have been with more people then a pornostar ....

as Tarzan say before ....we all have some skeleton in our closet
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Not more than 4 brothers and sisters going to univ.
Not both parents sick,together with buffalo.
Not more than 3 shoping trips a week (never ask the question:"what you want to do today, as the answer is shopping).
Not more than 4 phone calls at night, where the only one who wakes up is you (after 03 AM).

The phone calls at night really made me angry. I told her to shut down the phone when going to bed (in any sense). The fuss about 'mama wants to call me when she gets sick' is pure nonsense.

Shopping makes fun, only the gold shops are a bit expensive. Therefore set your budget and NEVER take your credit card or bank card with you, when you go shopping with her. Always use cash money.
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Old 15-06-2005, 05:25
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bg vs non bg

yes i fell in love with a bg, some wasted baht, but she taught me the valuable lessons of the los bar world.To which to her i am grateful.

Bgs are for recreational fun, non bgs could be for the lifetime partner.

the girl i am going to marry is innocent never left the village. always chaperoned when walking in the village or udon.
now we are engaged the aunts do not follow us anymore.

the money i send this girl every month for her english lessons, would not keep a bg in alcohol, gambling or mobiles for a week, there i think lies the difference, bgs live a high and fast lifestyle and maybe can not adapt to a quieter suburban life overseas, where as i hope my girl will adapt to this lifestyle.
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Old 15-06-2005, 19:56
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That is very good advice in my opinion.

With respect to opinions, I too think that Void is guilty of nothing other than putting his point of view across in a civilised manner. All of us can sometimes feel that we are being got at but if we all try to give measured responses in these discussions, the temperature shouldn't rise too high.

I like to hear what everyone has to say and I'm always ready to question my own ideas and beliefs as much as anyone else's.

Evidently I upset someone with this. Sorry for that but I was trying to be positive not "Somewhat Negative"
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I have met a few Thai girls on the web and then done the physical meeting when I got there. The failure ratio in my experience is high. I do not bother any more. It is far easier for them to stretch the truth on the net and tell you what they think you want to hear in email or chat. From my experience it has just been a large waste of my time and money.

BG or non BG I don’t care, judge them as I find them. I am far from perfect and I have no right to judge a BG doing her job to support her family and herself. I would not want to pay for all of my sins at once.
The non BG can be a bigger pain if you want to get rid of them as was said before and my experience confirms this. They can cost just as much as a BG if not more.

If I ended up with a BG that has been with numerous men I would hope that she would appreciate being treated nice and being supported and who know that you weren’t like the men who treat them not as well as I hope most BMs do.
Been around a bit, more to teach me and I am willing to learn.

Utherman you are a hard man, have you actually met any one that meets these standards.
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Well said Steveski we all have a history

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yes i generalized

point taken, yes i did generalize probably only for ease on the net.

everyone is different and some bgs are not living the high life or would make a wonderfull girl friend maybe partner.

in my occupation (mental health) i deal with and manage peoples lifes for them, so maybe i am to harsh and see things to much in black and white.





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Interesting side to things, obviously you have your opinion and I disagree with some points.

That's a bit unfair as you are saying that all BGs are callous and not worth considering. I know some really nice ladies who work as BGs and funnily enough the only time I had a problem with a money-grabbing lady, was with a non-BG !!
This tends to suggest that you are going to train her to be exactly how you want her to be. Where do you plan to live once you are married and will it be together ?? Do you really think an innocent girl from a village will be happy in a big Western European city ?? Or will you be able to adapt to living in a Thai village ?? I hope you have done your homework on both of them and understand that it's not an easy process to just get married and live together, and that's not taking in to account marital problems. At least a BG has experience of dealing with men from Western Europe and countries similar.
Whilst it is good of you to send money to pay for your lady's English lessons, it is not fair to assume that all BGs are highly successful and earn huge amounts of money. You are stereotyping and doing it badly. A lot of BGs survive from one day to the next not knowing where their next meal is coming from. I am not saying they are all like this, but your description cannot be applied to all BGs. It's like saying all Italian restaurant owners drive Ferraris, have a drink problem and beat up their wives !! Which is just not true.
I cant help feeling that you are actually pursuing a fantasy and are not really doing this for love, why else would you make such a statement ? You plan to take an innocent Thai girl from a village and put her in to a much more civilised, modernised Western environment and expect her to cope !?!?!

You may not have put everything down in your post here and there may be a lot more that you have done to make sure that your situation works, but from what you have written, I can't help feeling that your view is narrow minded. Perhaps you should try and look at all Thai people individually and not herd them in to groups like you have done, labelling them all as the same. This may actually be useful to you in time as you become more aware of problems that happen with your own situation.

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Old 16-06-2005, 12:48
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