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What is the differance?
Excuse my ignorance once again but can somebody please explain to me the differance between a "Beer Bar Girl" and a "Go-Go Girl". Apart from "One Sells Beer" and the other one "dances". Why the price differance? Any info appreciated as i am still learning
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Excuse my ignorance once again but can somebody please explain to me the differance between a "Beer Bar Girl" and a "Go-Go Girl". Apart from "One Sells Beer" and the other one "dances". Why the price differance? Any info appreciated as i am still learning
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You are right in you initial analogy. Beer Bar Girls work in Beer Bar and Go-Go Girls in GO Go establishments.
A Go-Go girl by the sheer fact that she dances puts her self in a higher profile situation. Some Go-Go dancers keep their clothes on and some will strip all or some. Generally the more provocative the more you can command. A beer bar girl, rarely puts her self on display. While not always true, some of the best looking girls can be found in Go-Go's.
Some people prefer the more relaxed atmosphere of an regular bar others prefer the party atmosphere of a go-go establishment.
It is not only the average amount of money that you will pay the girl that is different, the bar-fine at go-go's is usually higher too.
To me it is not surprising that more action and more entertainment command higher prices.
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I would assume go-go girls demand more money because they are providing more of a provocative entertainment aspect to the situation.
You know, you're sitting in a bar watching her gyrate in little or no clothing - it's a form of erotic entertainment. Plus you're choosing a girl from a stage full of ladies in various states of undress, who are being ogled by a room full of men from all over the world. The effort and visibility in this situation warrants more money being charged IMO.
A beer-bar, where you are more casually talking to a girl, usually just wearing street-clothes, is less charged-up In that you're chatting to a girl (even though it's probably mostly about boom-boom), but she's most likely not scantily clad/rubbing your member and pressuring you for Lady-drinks. The output from the bar and the girls is less, therefore the cost is less.
Personally, I like a mix of both atmospheres in a night out.
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In a word "Stretch Marks" or "Jelly Belly"....sh1t that's 2 words.....Go Go girls don't have em......a lot of Beer Bar girls do
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In a word "Stretch Marks" or "Jelly Belly"....sh1t that's 2 words.....Go Go girls don't have em......a lot of Beer Bar girls do
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Good point, also true.
Or the go-go bars have the lights positioned in such a way that the stretch marks and hail-damaged legs aren't noticable, it's not until you get her back to the hotel that you see it.....I hate that!
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Originally Posted by biomech;
I would assume go-go girls demand more money because they are providing more of a provocative entertainment aspect to the situation.
You know, you're sitting in a bar watching her gyrate in little or no clothing - it's a form of erotic entertainment. Plus you're choosing a girl from a stage full of ladies in various states of undress, who are being ogled by a room full of men from all over the world. The effort and visibility in this situation warrants more money being charged IMO.
A beer-bar, where you are more casually talking to a girl, usually just wearing street-clothes, is less charged-up In that you're chatting to a girl (even though it's probably mostly about boom-boom), but she's most likely not scantily clad/rubbing your member and pressuring you for Lady-drinks. The output from the bar and the girls is less, therefore the cost is less.
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I agree. But to elaborate on your last point a bit, in a gogo, nearly naked girls comes and sit on your lap, French kiss you, and , and often let you feel their bodies all over, including tits, ass, and pussy. They sometimes slip their hand down your pants, and a couple times I have even had them pull it out a bit and stroke it. The gogo is a "behind closed doors" kind of place, where the girls just cut to the chase, with not so much talk. It is all about sex, and no pretense otherwise.
In a beer bar, it is about chatting, getting to know a girl, being sociable with her friends, and yours. Of course, there is the element of sex there, too, as you know you want to screw her, but that is later in your room. First it is about getting to know each other a bit. It creates a bit of an illusion that they are just nice normal girls, almost like going to a bar and meeting a girl back at home. Of course, we know it really isn't at all the same, but still, it is a comfortable pretense for them and us, too. And, on good night, maybe you really do get to know a girl as a real person(not just a sex object), enjoy her company, have fun together, go to a disco, restaurant, bar-hopping, or karaoke, and it;s the excitement of having a pretty date on your arm, and she has a "rich" guy treating her right. Then it is about the excitement of being with someone you really like, get along with well, and share the fun with. On a night like that, it is not all about the sex. The sex is just the icing on the cake, after all the fun that builds up the anticipation of the moment when you are finally alone in your room together.
Sometimes you do see BGs climbing all over a guy in a beer bar, getting very physical, and having a make-out session with him in a beer bar, but that doesn't happen so much, it is more the exception than the rule.
Gogos are more just about getting crazy, being wild and uninhibited, and partying hardy.
As you may have guessed, I'm more of a beer bar kind of guy myself.
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Good elaboration Jaybee, totally agree.
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Good point, also true.
Or the go-go bars have the lights positioned in such a way that the stretch marks and hail-damaged legs aren't noticable, it's not until you get her back to the hotel that you see it.....I hate that!
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What don't u have a good "butchers" b4 u pay BF.....ie, as u r having a drink with them ?
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Well summarized JayBee. I fully agree with you and also prefer the beer bars.
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Ok i get it, but tell me this? Are all Bar Girls after the same thing. I mean, are any of the Bar Girls simply "Bar Girls". How do you know the differance. I can imagine chatting up a bar girl, doing all the right things and then asking her for a price promptly followed by a smack in the mouth. I want to make sure i don't say the wrong thing to the wrong girl.
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Mav is spot on here, to be ago go girl in the better establishments you have to have a pretty good figure and no stretch marks, whilst a girl can obviously get away with less than perfection whilst fully clothed in a beer bar. They are usually fairly good looking although this is not stating bg's are uglier because they might be even more beautiful but a little pom poi or not want to or able to dance as well.
JB, I couldn't make any sense of your reply as it doesn't seem to address the op question. Whilst I am not an avid go go person, I have been in many in my time here in Thailand and your description of goings on are a little in fantasy land and from my own personal experience happen only rarely and in the seedier go gos, the picture you paint would make the op think this happens in all go gos.
Irishozzy, no there are some girls who work as cashiers, mamasans etc that do not look to sleep with customers reguarly, but you would not get a smack in the mouth if you asked politely, especially as it would seem this would be done after talking and getting on with her for some period of time. In fact the only time I think you might get a smack in the mouth is if you have previously been with the bg, she is drunk and you are butterflying in front of her, making her loose face in front of her friends.
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"In fact the only time I think you might get a smack in the mouth is if you have previously been with the bg, she is drunk and you are butterflying in front of her, making her loose face in front of her friends".
Does the above mean that if i was with a Bar Girl one night i should not go back to the same place and be with another Bar Girl. What is "Butterflying?"
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"In fact the only time I think you might get a smack in the mouth is if you have previously been with the bg, she is drunk and you are butterflying in front of her, making her loose face in front of her friends".
Does the above mean that if i was with a Bar Girl one night i should not go back to the same place and be with another Bar Girl. What is "Butterflying?"
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just imagine ....your in australia......you date a girl one nite ....would you go back and date another girl in front of the date that you had the nite before?
just use a little bit of common sense........
butterflying is going with a different girl every nite......
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I see what you mean but its a little differant. I certainly wouldn't do it in Australia, or Dublin for that matter but surely the girls are in the bars to get money and the guys are in the bars to get laid....NO?
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PS: If my missus finds out i am on here and asking all these questions i will get a smack in the mouth anyway.....
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Bar or no Bar.
It is Thailand an as Dogder did say a "lose Face" thing.
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Bar or no Bar.
It is Thailand an as Dogder did say a "lose Face" thing.
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agree peter..........at the end of the day its all about respect
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That is a very good bit of information. Thank you for that. I would never have picked it.
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agree peter..........at the end of the day its all about respect
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and also MONEY....ie, one girl taking another girls income away from her
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JB, I couldn't make any sense of your reply as it doesn't seem to address the op question. Whilst I am not an avid go go person, I have been in many in my time here in Thailand and your description of goings on are a little in fantasy land and from my own personal experience happen only rarely and in the seedier go gos, the picture you paint would make the op think this happens in all go gos.
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Dont really agree.. I would say its only the Patong tourist gogo's (dragon and RH) that are not like that.. Most gogo's theres going to be some games like this, especially if you start flashing the drinks and tips..
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But couldn't you go into far more detail for me Lil as Jb did? maybe I'm not hansum man or got enough wedge, cos been in some and some of what he describes in detail happens but not seen it a lot in Patong or Bangkok. And the op's question was what is the difference between them and not can you go into intimate detail about what could happen in some go gos.
I can totally accept being wrong here cos my experience is not vast but from my little experience I didn't think it was appropriate to suggest it is common occurance in most go gos and the descriptive manner freaked me out a bit. Poor guy will get here and wonder why its not happening to him or grab some go go dancers between the legs and wonder why he is getting a good slap.
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You're not "wrong" Dodger, and I do agree where you took exception to JayBee inferring that what he described in a gogo is commonplace and is happening to every guy in the place throughout the night. Paints a poor picture of the average guy, going out on an average night, to an average gogo, at an average time of night.
Most of what JayBee referred to happens as the night wears on in a gogo, and even then only to some... mostly guys who are shelling out lots of cash or are just plain damn too charming or uninhibited fellows, IMO... But it does happen.
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Dont really agree.. I would say its only the Patong tourist gogo's (dragon and RH) that are not like that.. Most gogo's theres going to be some games like this, especially if you start flashing the drinks and tips..
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My experience with gogos is almost entirely with Nana and Soi Cowboy in BKK. Have only been to a few in Patong and Pattya. The time the girls were playing with my c*ck and pulled it out a bit, was in Nana, can't remember the name of the bar. That was extreme, and I think that is a rare occurance, but the point is that it did happen, and I can't imagine that ever happening in a beer bar. On that occasion, we had no intention of even going in that bar, but a girl grabbed my friend, and literally dragged him inside, so I followed. When they were taking liberties with me, one was French kissing me, while the other got in my pants. We were in a corner and they had postioned themselves so that they and my friend w/ another girl blocked the view of anyone else in the bar, altho, except for the dancers, I don't remember anyone else being there. I damn near came, and all for the price of a beer and a couple of LDs. Didn't even BF either of them.
My friend liked the gogos, so most of my gogo experience was from that trip. On another night, a girl came sat in my lap right off, grinding her bottom into me in such a way that I immediately became aroused. I bought her a LD. Next she French kissed me, then I felt up her bottom, pussy, and tits. While I was doing that she began chatting with my buddy, then kissed him, while sitting on my lap, and he started feeling her up, as well. She was quite good-looking. My buddy then asked her how much LT, she said 2000, and he BFed her straight away. We stopped at another gogo to scout for a girl for me, and she got quite outrageous, making out with him there. Then it was back to the room for them. I went back and BFed her a few nights later.
Of course, not every trip to every gogo was that wild. Some guys and some girls would never do crazy shit like that, whether it was a gogo or anywhere. But, my experience in gogos, in general, is that if a girl comes to sit with you, then she wants to be BFed, not to sit and talk. And, especially, if you are friendly with her, but playing hard to get a little bit, then she will often start to get physical with you, rubbing up against you, touching you, or sitting on your lap. They want to get you aroused, because they know if they do, then the chances are much better that you will give in to the urge and BF them.
In beer bars, if a girl sits with you, and has a drink with you, it does not necessarily mean that she wants you to BF her, and go to your room. She may be checking you out or just trying to make her commission on drinks. Some girls in beer bars have a BF, and do not go with men. Sometimes, when a girl gets a bit drunk, she will start in with the hugging, lapsitting, and kissing a bit, but it doesn't happen that often, it's not usually OK to start feeling her up in public, and if she does get physical and aggressive with you, then that probably means that she really is attracted to you, not merely trying to get your business.
The only times I went to gogos in Patong was on my first tour, over 5 yrs ago. There weren't many guys there, but I did see girls going up to guys who had just walked in and sat down, and hugging them, and sometimes giving them a kiss. Didn't see anything wild, but only went to the gogos a few times there .
Sorry for rambling, just trying to address Dodger's remark. My experience is limited, so it may not be the same as others have.
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