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10-02-2008, 16:04
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What's up with these extremely high ST and LTs?
I walk into Coyotees last night took me forever to even talk to a chic. First one had an ave face, nice enough body, irritating personality. She was talking about Laos for 10 minutes I had no idea what she saying. But wanted 3000ST, talked her down to 2000LT with allowances for no sex after 6AM and provision of one lunch... Even then she had to think about it. So I quickly moved to the next chic on my radar...... The older looking dancer with the tats all over. She wanted 2K for ST. Last year at this bar I picked up one of their Rockstar dancers totally hot for 1500LT for a nights.
Who's paying these prices?
Moved onto LDs Showcase, my usuals weren't there. Then the mamason tried pushing some ave chic with a tag of 2KST. WTF? Who's paying these prices? I was here at the sametime last year, so its not the season. In fact its right at the end of high season, if not high season is pretty much over.
These 2 bars might want to check into what their woman are trying to charge. BS to me. I'm not headed back to Coyotees anytime. Their line up didn't look all that great to me. Atleast compared to last years. And 130BT for San Mig Light
Sooo at 2 something in the morning I'm starting to sweat a bit. So I roll out the mobile of back ups, give a few a call. Talk to one she's already at Lucifers. 1500LT. Yes back to the good ol' days 
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10-02-2008, 16:39
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CRAZY PRICES and when you add that to the shi te exchange rates for the us dollar and uk pound at the moment its a hard life for a mongorer. personally i would not pay more than 2,000 bhat for long time even for a go go dancer add the bar fine and the fact you have already probably bought her at least 2 lady drinks thats going to hit you for 3.000 bhat.
there are too many people in pattaya nowadays unfortunately (the newly rich russians and japanese) who dont worry about paying these prices and alas that f ucks it up for the guys who have been coming for years
but heh its a buyers market in pattaya there are always loads of nice girls in the beer bars willing to go for 1500 lt so happy mongoring !
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10-02-2008, 17:40
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isnt 1000Bt still the accepted norm for LT in a beer bar Talbotman ?
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10-02-2008, 19:08
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YES YOU ARE RIGHT you will probably get a beer bar girl for 1000 bhat but probably not one of the better lookers when it comes to bgs popularity breeds greed i am afraid 55555
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10-02-2008, 19:26
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This is what happens when guys throw their money about on holiday. When the girls can get 2k plus off a soft touch they are going to expect it all the time. BG economics doesn't make the parallel between 2 x ST @ B1000 = B2000 and No x ST @ B2000= B0. Thank the guys who start off their replies with 'Well I can afford it, back home I'd pay........................' Then when we pay the going rate everyone calls us Cheap Charlies.
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10-02-2008, 19:55
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This is what happens when guys throw their money about on holiday. When the girls can get 2k plus off a soft touch they are going to expect it all the time. BG economics doesn't make the parallel between 2 x ST @ B1000 = B2000 and No x ST @ B2000= B0. Thank the guys who start off their replies with 'Well I can afford it, back home I'd pay........................' Then when we pay the going rate everyone calls us Cheap Charlies.
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Well said - agree 100%.
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10-02-2008, 20:01
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I have a newbie buddy heading to LOS next week. I gave him the price of 1,500 for LT. At the most for a gogo 2,000 but shes got to be entertaining as well as a stunner. Anymore then just move on.
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This is what happens when guys throw their money about on holiday. When the girls can get 2k plus off a soft touch they are going to expect it all the time. BG economics doesn't make the parallel between 2 x ST @ B1000 = B2000 and No x ST @ B2000= B0. Thank the guys who start off their replies with 'Well I can afford it, back home I'd pay........................' Then when we pay the going rate everyone calls us Cheap Charlies.
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GOOD POST SIMBO.AGREE 100%......IJ
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11-02-2008, 03:18
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Other options you could consider Matt.
The humble beer bar girl, not as good looking (on average) as the agogo girl but will usually go for 500 baht st & 1000 baht l/t even for some the better looking ones. (in my own experience) No sh1tty attitude usually either, unlike agogo girls who try pulling a fast one at times , like doing a runner as soon as they can. (phone call from bar/friend, lost room key etc..) beer bar girls are hard to get rid of in contrast.
Consider drinking at the many beer bars around walking st and wait for the 2am agogo kickout, although not all close at that time? Those same hot girls you see dancing on stage will soon be strutting their stuff around walking st, eating at food carts and in certain discos that may still be open at that time. No barfine to pay as they now become a freelancer and cheaper the price. Bartering may still be required though.
From what I hear, angeles city in the phillipines is roughly about half the price in general for pay for play compared to pattaya. The downside being that it's a sh1thole with not much else to do than drink and f**k, if that's a bad thing?
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11-02-2008, 06:12
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I hate the ambit claims...just not interested and trying to pull out of the bigger and more well known gogos in Patts was crazy this high season....some of them were charging 2k BF's on Xmas eve + Day + NYE + Day....so they can jam that and never get my money again.....normal BF's for a dancer now can be 1k anyway....so feck'em.....I'm sick of being taken advantage of....
I took one gogo gal which was a waste of time and went back to the disco's where most of them end up anyway......and to some of my usual beer bars where the gals are just as good looking and a lot nicer.....and offer much more of a GF experience if that is what you are after....
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[quote=I took one gogo gal which was a waste of time and went back to the disco's where most of them end up anyway......and to some of my usual beer bars where the gals are just as good looking and a lot nicer.....and offer much more of a GF experience if that is what you are after....[/QUOTE]
Agree totally. Go go girls are not any better IMO than freelancers in clubs or beer bar girls. In fact in my experience I have found a lot of go-go girls to be peasant in nature, social duds, won’t even mention bedroom performance. Last time I was in one I bar fined a waitress. Well at least she was nice.
Also you have to realize some girls will try and get what they can. Some may not want to go with anyone on a particular night so they may ask a ridiculous price. If they get it they go, if not no big deal. And I suppose if they got a good fee previously they will try again. After all if you’re a stunner you will have more turns than others.
As for the pricing, I think there are more than enough guys who pay going rates to counter the big spenders. I see one of the big problems is that we overpay for less than satisfactory attitude and performance. Thats why it is good to have a base payment what you will pay and tip extra accordingly.
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11-02-2008, 07:29
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How else are they gonna pay for their 9000baht iphone knock-offs that they lose every month? 
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11-02-2008, 11:12
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Yeah, I might need to change up my strategies a bit. Nothing wrong with beer bar girls at all. You always find a few good ones around. Usually I like a good mix of them all. Just havent ran into one decent non snotty gogo chic so far this trip. I've only survived off of service chics and a regular.
I spent my early evening hours at a beer bar complex and ran into atleast 10 bar finable woman, charming even. Probably go there tonight.
Another thing I noticed this season seems to have a much higher number of tourist families and non wh0re mongering couples. Bars have quite a few of them, malls are packed with them. You'd think you'd take your family anywhere in Thailand but Pattaya.
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11-02-2008, 11:30
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That's the demographic the Thai tourism industry wants now Matt. Tis the same in Patong now- loads of couples and families around and, dare I say it, young Falang women..........ugh!
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Always makes me laugh when people talk about the going rate.
If a girl says '10,000 to shag me', and guys pay it, then that's her going rate.
I admire any girl who put's her price and sticks to it. At least she understands her value. However, to suggest outrage at prices is strange. Market forces dictate the rates and if the girls are making what they ask, that's the price.
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last trip , had a bg who wanted 3k lt.
i laughed and said 1k, she agreed.
got to loom, done the deed ans then she say, you pay me 3k tomorrow....
WTF, i questioned this. she insisted.
i paid her fcuking money and kicked her ass out the door.
followed by an empty beer bottle out the window , while she was finishing getting dressed outside,
f@ckin thing...
this was in phuket,
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My issue is that they're not worth it. For that money they need to be pretty much near perfect, with a good personality. If not 2 of them. These chics were ave with no personality. That's no fun.
I still like to go out with them outside of their chromium pole habitat to clubs, restraunts whatever and in the future maybe hook up with them again.
I can deal with it and move on to the next chic or bar just as fast as any other guy.
I go plus/minus the ave, there's just no point in picking up a chic that's not gonna be happy.
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My issue is that they're not worth it. For that money they need to be pretty much near perfect, with a good personality. If not 2 of them. These chics were ave with no personality. That's no fun.
I still like to go out with them outside of their chromium pole habitat to clubs, restraunts whatever and in the future maybe hook up with them again.
I can deal with it and move on to the next chic or bar just as fast as any other guy.
I go plus/minus the ave, there's just no point in picking up a chic that's not gonna be happy.
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Tis whatever makes you happy in the end- you are the customer and deserve value for money whatever you pay. 1, 2 or 3 k is not necessarily indicative of the quality of the shag- the worst one I ever had was the most expensive. Find a good one with an attention span longer than a gnat and enjoy.
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I totally agree with everyone. I was in Pattaya for NY's and nearly all the go-go girls that i took back couldnt wait to get out of my room after doing the deed, and they were the more expensive ones. Id rather go for the freelancers in lucifers who know the going rate and if they wana try their luck by throwing an extra 500 to make it 1500 then depending on her characted and the package which most of the time in discos the girls are pretty fine i will give it to them. It still works out much cheaper than a go-go bar after buying a couple of drinks then the bar fine and her ridiculous price...
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This is what happens when guys throw their money about on holiday. When the girls can get 2k plus off a soft touch they are going to expect it all the time. BG economics doesn't make the parallel between 2 x ST @ B1000 = B2000 and No x ST @ B2000= B0. Thank the guys who start off their replies with 'Well I can afford it, back home I'd pay........................' Then when we pay the going rate everyone calls us Cheap Charlies.
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i would think there is a sort of 2 tier pricing, in a way
i think if an ex-pat is half way presentable and a decent, fun guy they can usually get the girl they want for the money they want
they are around, the girls know them
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Find a good one with an attention span longer than a gnat and enjoy.
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i would think there is a sort of 2 tier pricing, in a way
i think if an ex-pat is half way presentable and a decent, fun guy they can usually get the girl they want for the money they want
they are around, the girls know them
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i have to agree with that.
look after them, treat them right and with a bit of luck,
it will be returned
except if you throw things at them
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