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11-12-2006, 05:52
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Do you mention money?
Just wondered how you guys play the game?
Have you/do you discuss money with a girl when you sit down for a chat with her at her bar? Or do you go with the flow and not mention money, based on knowing what she expects and what is expected from you. For me, I've never mentioned money. I meet a girl, sit down for a game, drink and a chat. When back at the hotel, when she is in the shower, I take the opportunity to slip some money into her handbag, and nothing is mentioned. The big appeal for me in LOS is the illusion that we can find ourselves in! eg, 'pulling a beautiful girl in a bar'! This has not been without problems though. I have experienced the 'false' offence when a girl has found the money I've left her and the following awkwardness! At the opposite end of the spectrum, and since I've been home and chatted to a good friend who is a seasoned LOS veteran, I also wonder if I pay to much? He reckons that what I payed was fine for a one night engagement. But if you spend an extended period with a girl, then you shouldn't be paying an extended equivalent of the normal, accepted nightly fee! I always read this board and don't think of myself as a newbie. Indeed the newbie section of the forum is the one that I read least, despite only a couple of trips to Los. And before anyone tells me to 'use the search engine', I do! But I'm still unsure of the going rate in different situations and what to do. Its one big learning curve! 
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#2
11-12-2006, 06:10
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Based on years of experience as an owner not as a player, there are far too many problems encountered after the event when money has not been discussed up front.
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11-12-2006, 06:11
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I reckon there`s no rule to this one, just come to an agreement between yourselves beforehand. I wouldn`t touch her bag i always leave 1500 Baht under her phone in the morning and have never had an issue. Guys on here would say 1000 Baht is the going rate but if you liked her the rest is tip. In the past i had a girl from Dragon at 2000 Baht a time but she was good and looked just as sensational once she put her civvies on.
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11-12-2006, 06:16
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As an expert Stevem, do you have experience as a player that you'd care to share?!
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11-12-2006, 06:38
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I've always found that their handbags are conveniently left unzipped!! So technically, I don't touch their handbag, I just drop some money in there when it has been left open. I've always known that 1000 bht was the going rate, but have only ever left between 1200-1500 bht. I know I could get away with 1000 baht but what I have previously paid has usually been dependant on how much I've got left in my wallet!!! And I can't help but feel that only 1000 is a bit tight! I'd give less, if after no negotiation, I felt short changed, but touch wood, that has not yet happened.
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11-12-2006, 06:43
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I'd also second the DON'T TOUCH HER PROPERTY comment. Not going to take too much for you to encounter the wrong girl and for her to say, I had this and that in my handbag and now it is gone.
Guess who you'll be talking with next!!!!!
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11-12-2006, 06:51
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Maybe in future, I'll be leaving it under her phone then!!!! Is it not a case though, whether you act what you think is appropriate or not, if you are with a girl that takes this kind of action, you are ****ed no matter what you've done!?
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11-12-2006, 06:56
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Usually never talk money unless they bring it up, just leave a donation in the morning under their phone, never had any complaints.
Really can't comment on going rates, some BM's are talking around the 1500LT as a current average. Gogo's I would say more, depends on the girl, depends on the time of year. If I added all the costs like ld's, disco, meals etc it would be allot higher than 1500. Have to see next year if my 1000bht note is still acceptable currency in these parts.
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11-12-2006, 06:59
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Simple answer yes, it is her word against yours, and she is Thai. Get it!!!
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11-12-2006, 12:30
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I would advise everyone whether being a newbie or not, to negotiate a price first before taking a lady back to your room.
Last visit I let my guard slip on the 2nd week & didn't negotiate first up with a bg from a beer bar............Big MISTAKE. This girl was no stunner & would be best described as an average Patong bg. Ok I'll do my best to cut a long story short. Finished drinking at the bar......back to room.........3 parts pissed.......told her no boom boom tonight, we'll have fun in the morning...all ok. Next morning....boom boom....she showered & when she was dressed & said the old, me go home now line....I presented her with 1200b. She threw it on the bed & said that it was not enough. I told her that it's what I have paid other girls & there should be no problem. She refused to go. I attempted to put the money in her pocket, but she moved away so I couldn't. She sat on the bed & then produced the crocodile tears. I told her to accept the money & please leave..........I've seen the tears before & you're only wasting your time I told her. She still wouldn't budge, even after attempting for the 2nd or 3rd time of giving her the money. I then did some reverse psychology....I took the 1200b & removed 100b & told her to accept that (1100).........she would not.........so I took away another 100 which made it 1000b. I already had my door opened & had shown her the way, but she was adamant she was gonna get more. I was keeping my cool & doing my best not to lose it.............If this was a guy I was having a blew with, he'd be ironed out on the floor. Finally she walked outta the room then stood in the hallway sulking, in full view of the room maids.......luckily they know me pretty good & were shaking their heads in disbelief with her. So after the 30 minute standoff she took the 1200 & left...finally. I found out afterwards from the hotel owner, she'd caused dramas there before too............She was now barred. The bar owner knew all about it when I went to his bar next & offered an apology & my bf back..I accepted the apology but refused the bf. Long & short of it is.......always know up front........It doesn't matter which way ya wanna look at it...IT'S A BUSINESS TRANSACTION.
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11-12-2006, 12:31
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WOW.. I am surprised that you get paid 250 mav.. I thought the late night lumpini park gay scene was cheaper than that.. but obviously no first hand info..
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11-12-2006, 12:42
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Alfie Alfie Alfie..
We had this chat before.. Just cause they have high heels and lipstick doesnt actually make them girls.. A simple test is if they pay you to suck thier c0ck you may be dealing with one of those 'special' girls again..
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11-12-2006, 13:02
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Yes I have paid to have it sucked..
However I wasnt in lipstick and high heels.. so fail the 'special' girl test..
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11-12-2006, 14:44
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Getting back to the original topic. First went ot LOS 5 years ago, and already I find myself talking about the "good ol' days."
 At that time, money was rarely mentioned, except by the occasional stunner or stunner wannabe, who would ask for 2000. The others were happy to get 1000. 3 yrs ago, I noticed the times were a changin', and a lot of girls were asking for more. Twice I had girls who were whining about not enough Baht, so I gave a couple hundred more. I still prefer the old way, because, as said, it is noce ot hvae the illusion that they are not ******s. That used to be important to the birls to. But maybe they are not as shy now, and more focused on the $$. Now it depends partly on where I am. In BKK, the going rate is 1000 ST, 200O LT, so if nothing is said, that is what you can expect to pay. If you want to get LT for less than that, then you need to speak up, and maybe you will get it for 1500 after negotiating, if she likes you enough. Last year in Patong, I stayed with only one girl. She spoke up, asked 2000, and we settled at 1500. Since she came to my hotel every night at 10, and never asked me to pay her BF, that seemed quite fair, since I avoided the BF, and all the ladydrinks for her "sisters," bartenders, and friends at her bar. In the future, I plan to stick to the "don't ask, don't tell" system. If they want more, then they can ask for it, as I suspect most of them will. If they don't ask, and are dissatisfied in the morning with what they are given, then I can always give them more then, or negotiate in arrears. If a girl accepts 1000 or 1200 with a smile and a wai, then I will be disposed to think more highly of her, and will be more inclined to patronize her business in the future. If she is a whiner, and a b*tch, then it is good that I find that out, and she certainly will get no more of my business.
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11-12-2006, 15:20
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When I bf my girl, we settled on the price before we left the bar. Then I would leave the money under her phone and added a nice tip as she really was good for me.
I didn't have any problem about money with her whatsoever. Moreover, as I mentioned in my report as well, she wasn't really pushy asking for ld's or anything else. That is also why I rewarded her more than fair when I left. And even better, the story continues... 
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11-12-2006, 15:35
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It's easy for people to jump in afterwards and say "always agree a price beforehand" even I know which horse will win the race if I know the result already  I have never agreed a price before taking a girl back and never had a problem. I see that a few others have said the same. Obviously you will have the occasional moody tart who will kick up a fuss and cause trouble, I have had one of those and I managed to deal with her, but it was not about money. Quote:
Looking back I suppose it may have been better for me to have already agreed a price on my first few visits to LOS, as these girls can sniff out a newbie without any problem at all. I think Bono's comments make sense and agree with what he says. Had I been a member of a forum before going to LOS, I probably would have heeded advice like this.
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11-12-2006, 15:47
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It's just like buying anything else, so it is best to talk price up front. This is for BG and GG's. If it's a FL, and no price is spoken about during the course of the evening, then she is agreeing to take whatever you give her in the AM as long as it is reasonable, IMHO.
In easyrider's case (which is just appalling), I think some girls think in blocks of 500 for whatever reason. She may have thought she was getting docked 300??? Like JayBee, about three years ago, I too noticed a shift in the balance of power. Not just the money aspect, but the attitude as well. Many just don't seem as demure as they used to be. The TanMan
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11-12-2006, 15:55
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Easyrider and Steve giving good advice - why complicate things by risking misunderstandings later. After all if your going to get intimate with her then whats the big deal about agreeing before hand. And by no means do all girls know the 'going rate' because there is no such thing ... its up to the girl and she can and does vary it according to how much she likes the guy or how much she thinks he can afford to pay.
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12-12-2006, 00:11
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I have never discusses money and have had zero problems. I think its for 2 reasons
1) i go with girls that show an interest in me 1st, feel you have a better time and get a more responsive girl 2) i spend money like a drunken sailor so i usually have shown the girl a good time well before going to the room related story: i just asked my GF recently why she didnt ask how much i give her the 1st night i went with her. she said that i had bought her the most lady drinks ever(16) that she made 800 baht and figured id be generous with her
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12-12-2006, 00:15
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Don't bring me into this discussion. 
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