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View Poll Results: Would you pay an extra 50 baht barfine to allow for regular HIV/AIDS screening?
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Old 07-10-2005, 20:46
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I have heard of it on BKKtonite.. People were discussing buy outs and what was a 'fair' buy out for a gogo stunner (in fact i really cant remember if it was only on gogo girls..).. Lots of guys saying they never would on principal and others saying it was a way of letting the girl gain face and have a free ride if she wanted back into the job.. quitting and restarting seemed bad to them (tho its not my experience)..

Just curious whats the bar set prices ?? Or can the girls set a price.. Or what ??

Do you give any back to the girls..

Its all a new one for me.. Then again I only bar hop through BKK.. never spent long periods there..
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Old 07-10-2005, 20:53
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I havent seen or heard about it many times but when I first moved here I knew one bar owned by a Thai family who threated the girls pretty bad, if the girl find a boyfriend and wanted to quit she had to pay 5000 baht to the bar, otherwise they would cause big trouble for her. I know they had beaten up their girls before once in a while.

In my opinion, the girls are free to do whatever they want as they are just "freelancers", they are not owned nor employed by me or other bars, just earning comissions by helping us.

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Buying a girl out of a bar is something I have heard of a few times.. Never done it or know anyone who has doen it but read threads on it on BKKtonite..

From what I read most bars give a % back to the girl (like a BF) and also that it allows the girl to keep face if she leaves the bar and wishes to return later.. compensates the bar for having to find new staff..

As I say I have never seen it directly and from my experience most bars want the good girls anyway so that them leaving, moving and returning has not been an issue..

Its definately unusual on Phuket.. I have no idea if its common in Pattaya also or if this is an older practice thats dieing out or not..
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Old 07-10-2005, 20:57
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You dont have any salaried girls or a lady house then Nicke ??

Bars in this town range from salaried + accom, to salaried or accom only, to commision (at this point theya re FL's) to just free drinks for popular girls (loose FL's)..

I know one of my mates under Tiger just started a few hotties on full salary..
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Old 07-10-2005, 21:33
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Yes, I am aware of that. But if girls on salary, then just pay for the days she worked. E.g. if she want to quit in the middle of the month, just give her half salary or deduct whatever is agreed if she dont show up for work.

I still see no reason to demand money if she want to quit, it is a question for you to deduct money, not the other way.

I had lady house sometimes when the girls requested that, e.g. in a slow season while they didnt have money to pay for their own rents, but in my experience many girls dont want to stay in a lady house, they want to stay for themselves or some friends. When I had lady house, it often ended up with conflicts and thefts among the girls. But I know it is working fine for many others.

So at the moment no lady house and no salaried girls, except for staff (4 including Ead). Free drinks to the girls.

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You dont have any salaried girls or a lady house then Nicke ??

Bars in this town range from salaried + accom, to salaried or accom only, to commision (at this point theya re FL's) to just free drinks for popular girls (loose FL's)..

I know one of my mates under Tiger just started a few hotties on full salary..
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A friend of mine had to pay 5k to take a girl out of a bar in Patong. She was just an ordinary bg, but the farang-barowner wanted the money.
I dont like that style, allmost like slavery.......
At least my girls are free to come and go as they want.........I dont pay for a barhouse at the moment as my girls dont want it. But if I was paying for a house, I would expect those of them that was liveing there to show up in the bar every night.....


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Its pretty common in gogo's. Patong is 7K and I believe that Bangkok is 10K. Had one girl in Playschool, finish 3 times with 3 different guys.

It can also be used as a permanent ongoing BF.

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sabai room in pattay, and im sure the other ones are like this. when gail left she had to pay money to leave. but she told me its more for the right to come back when she wants. a girl who doesnt pay is not welcomed back.
i told her that she shouldnt pay because they make alot of money off her, but she didnt seem to mind. i think it was 5000-8000baht
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You know how you pay a bar fine to a bar to take a lady out of the bar per night - well if yu buy her out of the bar eg maybe you want her for the month or longer - you pay the buy out price. It means instead of paying 500 bt per day - you pay the set amount as decided by the bar. If you have brought her out and you return - you want her again - you never have to pay a bar fine again for that girl

Not all bars honour this, in particular some of the larger gogo's in Bangkok.
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Sorry,
I am very new here so please dont feel that I am spouting off. I just wanted to say that checking the sexual health of the ladies is a great idea but who is checking you. I have heard horrible stories about guys catching the black lion and going out on a revenge **** spree.

If you have ever watched anyone you love die of a this awful disease then maybe you might cover your old prod. I have heard friends compare fu@king with a rubber to eating a sweet with the wrapper on. We all know the risks but some choose to ignore them and here is where the problem lies. Gentlemen please have a little common sense and ensure that you are able remain as healthy as you can. This will be of benifit to all in the long run.

I really dont want to come across as a pompass??? fu@kwit but hey it really is scary sh@t. I see lots of tongue in cheek and off the cuff remarks on these boards but just a moments pause really could save your life.
I shall climb out of the pulpit now and no doubt try and dodge the steaming turds that will be flung my way.

Be safe..... ( I sound like Yoda now)
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Old 10-10-2005, 17:32
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I am very new here so please dont feel that I am spouting off. I just wanted to say that checking the sexual health of the ladies is a great idea but who is checking you. I have heard horrible stories about guys catching the black lion and going out on a revenge **** spree.

If you have ever watched anyone you love die of a this awful disease then maybe you might cover your old prod. I have heard friends compare fu@king with a rubber to eating a sweet with the wrapper on. We all know the risks but some choose to ignore them and here is where the problem lies. Gentlemen please have a little common sense and ensure that you are able remain as healthy as you can. This will be of benifit to all in the long run.

I really dont want to come across as a pompass??? fu@kwit but hey it really is scary sh@t. I see lots of tongue in cheek and off the cuff remarks on these boards but just a moments pause really could save your life.
I shall climb out of the pulpit now and no doubt try and dodge the steaming turds that will be flung my way.

Be safe..... ( I sound like Yoda now)
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Its pretty common in gogo's. Patong is 7K and I believe that Bangkok is 10K. Had one girl in Playschool, finish 3 times with 3 different guys.

It can also be used as a permanent ongoing BF.


Just curious about one point with this..

You say it can be used as a permanent ongoing BF... So say you have a girlfriend who works in an agogo.. I assume this means she can without penalty leave with that guy at any time ??

What happens if this same girl then doesnt go with punters (avoids bar fines) because of having a BF ??

In fact even then the bar still has 'entertainment' girls and still gets drinks and lady drink money.. But say the boyfriend turns up every night at 10 O Clock and takes her from the bar..

How can the bar then maintain a salary on the girl when she has a perpetual bar fine ?? Is it assumed that permanant ongoing bar fine only happens a few times a week or month or what ??
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For your information - I brought the bar in July 16th and was in BAngkk setting up the bar and dealing with "authorities" before heading to Patong. I then returned to Thailand on the 20th Sept for business - was in Bangkok for 4 days then went to Patong for 9 and back to Bangkok for 4 days. I never flame a BM - but you are getting very close to flaming me. Everytime I post you are negitive and always try to prove me wrong. I am getting sick of it. I am back in Thailand for Christmas - perhaps then you may like to meet face to face and explain your problem - I would love that.

Kiwi i think just ignore livinlos he always try to think he know everything but not know much at all but for what he read on other forums. I see other BM also think same about livinlos better just not respond to him anymore
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Sure.. Just put me on ignore.. No need to see anything then..

Bye

Hows life in HK there ??? Ohh hold on..
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Kiwi i think just ignore livinlos he always try to think he know everything but not know much at all but for what he read on other forums. I see other BM also think same about livinlos better just not respond to him anymore

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Kiwi i think just ignore livinlos he always try to think he know everything but not know much at all but for what he read on other forums. I see other BM also think same about livinlos better just not respond to him anymore

This post has a very familiar ring to it , about a month ago a now ex-Bm named Imagine , posted an almost identical thread about me. So , Jazz , do you copy other peoples ideas , or am I just imagining it.
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Hey Nicke what ever happened to this. Are they or did they start to charge more BF for STD tests??

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yes of course. would give me a better feeling doing it , more save But the bar paying, i dont believe it would work
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I'm no Doctor and don't know how long it takes to incubate a STD.

What I am trying to say is. The girl gets the all clear on Monday after her screening (If she goes and doesn't pocket the money given to her from the BF takings to have the tests) She has a ST customer on Tuesday afternoon and a LT that night and then you come along on Wednesday night, pay your 50 Baht extra on the BF to see a certificate from the Doctor! You then take the certificate for the gospel truth and don't bother to bag up!

She may well have been clear all along but you can't vouch for the ST or LT Falang customer.

Paranoid I maybe! But IMHO, Just not bloody worth it.
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She got tested today
Monday :
Tuesday :

Wednesday :

Thursday :

Friday : I'll be O.K , she's been tested.
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Thanks shark but wasnt talking to you

Dojo this was not an answer to you!!

Here the full version of my sentence for you to understand!
Question : would you pay 50 bth Extra for an STD check?

My answer: Yes of course ( i would pay 50 bth extra for STD check)

Now comprende?!!
I didnt see it was quite behind your post and could be missunderstood as an answer to your post!!
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