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Old 19-10-2007, 03:02
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Airlines to allow mobile phones

Proposals are underway for UK airlines to allow mobile phones to be used when in the air.

Personally the last thing I would want is someone talking away on a phone during a long flight and annoying ring tones going off every 5 minutes.
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Old 19-10-2007, 03:19
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My vote would be for an option not listed: On for Data and Off for voice.
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Old 19-10-2007, 03:42
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"My vote would be for an option not listed: On for Data and Off for voice."
I would agree - especially as my phone has a "flight mode"; but, despite this, I was asked to turn it off on a flight to Spain this year!
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Old 19-10-2007, 05:53
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Everybody jabbering on in an enclosed space like that over a long distance while people are trying to sleep. I dont think so.
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Old 19-10-2007, 05:57
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Definitely no for me. I would not want to be a captive or captured audience for people with no shame in using their phone in front of others. Many people are just rude about their phone use.

I would think the data mode would be nice, but don't think people could handle it. How many times are you on the flight and you hear a cell phone ring after they announced many times before to shut them off. I just don't think people would be disciplined enough to switch to data only.

I guess I just don't have a lot of faith in people 555555
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Old 19-10-2007, 06:56
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anyone who blares into a mobile phone next to me on a long flight will have it jammed up his/her jacksie so fast they will be talking sh!t in seconds
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Erm, i dont know. Most of my older friends say no, but the younger ones say yes.

Personally i wont want it, like most of you have replied, someone talking to you non stop while sitting next to you.

What happened to most of the airline internet service? SIA stopped theirs already, what about the others?
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I would think the data mode would be nice, but don't think people could handle it.
The system (airplane's pico cell) can handle that and allow SMS and Internet but not voice. The only exception (I can see) is VoIP, which will be the exception that anyone even want to try and in the rare event it does happen it can be managed manually.
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What happened to most of the airline Internet service? SIA stopped theirs already, what about the others?
The service called Connexion was offered by Boeing. Boeing canceled the program citing insufficient demand.
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The service called Connexion was offered by Boeing. Boeing canceled the program citing insufficient demand.

Yeah i remember it was quite pricey.
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anyone who blares into a mobile phone next to me on a long flight will have it jammed up his/her jacksie so fast they will be talking sh!t in seconds




Cell phone etiquite has become virtually non-existant. I thouroghly detest having to listen to other people's business.

I will choose airlines that don't offer cell phone service.

Aren't the prices still going to be quite high?
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I'm surprised no-one has mentioned this yet but dont you think it would help aid the organising of a hijacking or even in acts of Terrorism whilst on board ?

Also they use mobile signals to activate bombs etc, and a mobile phone itself can be disguised as a potential detonating device...

Maybe i've been watching too much Discovery channel !!!
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I reckon they should put an airlock down the back of the planes so that I (and others like me) can dispose of annoying people and their mobile phones during long (or even short) flights...
Oh you may have guessed, I voted no...
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Can phones be used at such heights ? Not too sure on that myself.

Even so, I don't think too many people will use them for long haul, as a call would incur "roaming fees", i.e. you would only be in your providers airspace for a short period and then you would be out of range. Imagine making a call halfway over the English channel which started off in your UK provider's range, after around 30 minutes you could have passed over France, Belgium, The Netherlands, Germany etc so which provider would you using then and wouldn't a call disconnect when the provider changed ? I think that's it's all a pile of crap and won't be an issue because of this.

Most ordinary folk will do it once, receive the bill (20 minutes pay roaming charges is not cheap !!) and then think twice about doing it again.

It will affect the premium cabins a lot more than economy, with the latter probably only using their phones when coming in to land to say "Hi, we're back !!" or "I'd like to book a cab please..."
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I think the deal is the airplane provides its own 'cell' diz.. So you roam onto the plane and stay within that cell for the duration of the flight.. i doubt it would be cheap tho.

I am a definate NO !! I want to sleep, or watch a film.. Surely we can live unconnected for a few hours a month ??

Tho I am having a tough time understanding why I feel so strongly no about planes yet would feel differently about a train.. Why ??
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When traveling by train in Japan, typically the Shinkansen (bullet train), there are signs everywhere to put your phone on silent, should you be unlucky enough to forget and the Train Master hear it they can induce an "on the spot" fine...

It seems in Japan people actually appreciate and take note of signs and public announcements unlike many other countries
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I have heard from people that have been to Japan-as I have only been there for layover-that people are much more respectful there in public than here in America. Would love for some of this behavior to spread to America, but doubt that will ever happen.
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When traveling by train in Japan, typically the Shinkansen (bullet train), there are signs everywhere to put your phone on silent, should you be unlucky enough to forget and the Train Master hear it they can induce an "on the spot" fine...

It seems in Japan people actually appreciate and take note of signs and public announcements unlike many other countries


Too bad it's the same case on the MRT.
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Can phones be used at such heights ? Not too sure on that myself.

Even so, I don't think too many people will use them for long haul, as a call would incur "roaming fees", i.e. you would only be in your providers airspace for a short period and then you would be out of range. Imagine making a call halfway over the English channel which started off in your UK provider's range, after around 30 minutes you could have passed over France, Belgium, The Netherlands, Germany etc so which provider would you using then and wouldn't a call disconnect when the provider changed ? I think that's it's all a pile of crap and won't be an issue because of this.

Most ordinary folk will do it once, receive the bill (20 minutes pay roaming charges is not cheap !!) and then think twice about doing it again.

It will affect the premium cabins a lot more than economy, with the latter probably only using their phones when coming in to land to say "Hi, we're back !!" or "I'd like to book a cab please..."
The planes will be equipped with pico cells or a hub. The cell will communicate with satellites or dedicated towers on the ground. In the US I have read that only 6 land towers will be required for all communication over the continent and 200 miles beyond.

Roaming cost is estimated to be less than $1.99 per minute, which is about the same I paid when I got my first cell phone (I actually paid more if you factor inflation). I have also read about flat fees based on flight duration, but forget the cost.

At similar rates in-flight phones have been available for a long time and while they were used from time to time, most just didn't. Not so much because of cost (I think). Delta Airlines used to have free calls to their reservation center or to purchase from the in-flight magazine. Even when the call was free I only used the phones once or twice.
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I think the deal is the airplane provides its own 'cell'...

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The planes will be equipped with pico cells or a hub. The cell will communicate with satellites or dedicated towers on the ground...

Aha !! This is all new to me.

However, I still stand by my "Yes" (I'm the 1 against 21 "No"s so far ) as I have flown on many aircraft where they already had their own telephones (i.e. swipe your credit card along the handset and jabber away) but have yet to ever see anyone using them.

To me it's a bit like the time when the UK government was thinking about relaxing licensing laws and allowing pubs/bars to stay open all afternoon (instead of having to close from 3pm-5pm). There were numerous howls of disagreement from all the doom and gloom merchants !! People were stating that "the high streets of Britain will soon be full of drunken workers every afternoon who won't want to go back to work !!" "Industry will grind to a halt whilst everyone's down the pub all afternoon" etc etc

Afterwards many people felt that all day drinking in the UK was a good thing and should have happened a lot sooner. Funny how the doom and gloom merchants kept quiet.

I fail to see why so many people think allowing telephones on planes will be such a bad thing.
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CELL PHONE USE in any form of mass or public transport should be banned 100% i dont use buses in scotland as i have a car but if i did i would be paying a fare to get from point A not to be inflicted with the most boring banalic irritating conversations made on cell phones . usually made by people who look like they have not worked a day in their lives (so wheres the money to pay the phone bi;ll coming from)

i was on a train from london to scotland a couple of years back i was sitting back with my cd walkman on and eyes closed when i had a tap on my shoulder when i removed my ear phones i was hit by "you will have to switch your cd off mate its interfeering with my phone signal" i imediately replaced my earphones again i was tapped and again i was told not asked to switch off my cd i then told the idiot THIS IS NOT A FU--ING PHONE BOX if you had requested me to turn it off instead of demanding i would have done it but now if you bother me again i will shove your phone right up your kyber pass i was then hit by cheers and clapping from all the other passengers in my carriage 55555555

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I think Dizbuster must be living in lala land if he thinks phones are not going to be used and abused by the wankers who cant go for a few hours without playing with their toys. Fair dinkum mate, all we will get is numerous tossers making and receiving calls, people talking so loud they will wake you up, far out even when their on the ground they raise their voices to unacceptable levels. It will be phone free airlines for me if they start to allow it.
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