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23-11-2004, 10:01
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Jealous or not to Jealous - this is the Question...
Just recently I have been doing a lot of soul searching in terms of my life direction and the sheer volume of mongering I have been doing of late.
So I present the following:-
Even though we know these LBFM's are in it for the money is it not just human nature to get jealous of them if the one you like is not available and you see her with another farang...
I know it wrecks my head whne this happens and I also know I should know better but is'nt it only natural???
If you spend personal time with someone you feel an attachment with them even if they don't (take most relationships, paid for or not - nothing feels the same to both parties ever) whether you like it or not - Whether you want it or not...
So my question's are:-
Does anyone else feel like this?
What is the solution to not feel like this?
Is jealousy just another form of guilt?
Considered opinions welcomed...
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23-11-2004, 10:13
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I think it is human nature to feel that way...I even felt 'guilty' at times in the MTB when I thought of others watching the webcam and I was with someone they had been with recently...not that it affected my night too much, but was aware of it. It is also why I do not spend a lot of time watching the webcam now as I would rather not see the fun being had without me  but that said on night shift I cannot help but to watch for a few minutes every hour or so.
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23-11-2004, 10:31
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So my question's are:-
Does anyone else feel like this?
What is the solution to not feel like this?
Is jealousy just another form of guilt?
Considered opinions welcomed...
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yes i feel like it,to stop the feeling stop going to los,and i think jealousy is more to do with wanting someone you cant have or no you couldnt hold down.the jealousy would always be there because of her back gtround.
i also try not to watch the webcam to much anymore,it screws me up a bit.
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23-11-2004, 12:18
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Never. They are prostitutes and you are paying them for a service.
Only a fool would fall in love with a ****** as any relationship is doomed to failure.
Also why the hell would you feel an attachment to a girl the fcuks 100's of punters??? 
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23-11-2004, 12:48
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And preferable those who have some experience as well 
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Bafana yes i agree. Depends how much time u spend with a girl. If 1 night, i doubt you would feel jealous if you saw her with a punter the next night.
I spent a couple of weeks with a girl in Dec/Jan. No i did not fall in love with her, but had a great time. Came back in march to go to a mates wedding, and stop in to see her. She knew i was going at that time but she was already with another punter. I dont think i would have minded if she told me, but you know they want to try to keep everyone if they can  So i only found out when i arrived. Was gutted for about 1 day.
Then went and found a new one, which turned out to be a lot better than the one before.
I can honestly say now, if it happened again like that i would not be bothered or phased one bit. Alot more trips and time in thailand under my belt now.
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Then went and found a new one, which turned out to be a lot better than the one before.
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THERES PLENTY MORE FISH IN THE SEA
I SUPPOSE WE WOULDNT BE HUMAN IF WE DIDNT HAVE FEELINGS........
WE ALL GET JEALOUS.THATS INCLUDING THE BGs.........I KNOW I DO........
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THERES PLENTY MORE FISH IN THE SEA
I SUPPOSE WE WOULDNT BE HUMAN IF WE DIDNT HAVE FEELINGS........
WE ALL GET JEALOUS.THATS INCLUDING THE BGs.........I KNOW I DO........
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When i am in Phuket, I get pissed drunk and on the way back to the hotel, take a bg/fl and back to room and then.....after that in the morning sent them back....no feelings, no attachment, no problems and sometimes cannot even remember doing the deed...haven't taken a bg for more than 1 day for a long time...if more than 1 day i will be in serious problem emotionally..afterall we are all human beings with feelings and bgs also are human beings with feelings...I guess staying with this formula keeps me out of this problem(for now  ) and so what if they call you butterfly/helicopter..it keeps you sane emotionally.
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knowing what good actresses they are ,it is easy to start beliving the is more to it than a buisness deal.so yes Bafana i totaly understand your direction of thought.
But the are moment in a time scale when a b.g can show her more gentle side and pull you in further more to beliving the impossable dream,is it jealousy or is it the Alpha male in you wanting to claim what you belive is yours?
hmmmm to much waffle there but i think you know what i mean .
by the way J you mention a b.g any one we know ?
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Never. They are prostitutes and you are paying them for a service.
Only a fool would fall in love with a ****** as any relationship is doomed to failure.
Also why the hell would you feel an attachment to a girl the fcuks 100's of punters??? 
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as usual a great contribution from you,but where did anyone mention love???
rtfq comes to mind.
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24-11-2004, 10:40
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by the way J you mention a b.g any one we know ?
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One from Batam actually - It was weird because I was not jealous of a longer term BG but more so of her - Maybe because this was the first time I had gone there to book her and she was already taken. I think that may have been the cause so next time it might not be so bad.
Anyway I made up for it by booking her and her friend the next night but it made me wonder what mongering skill am I lacking that makes me still have emotional attachment to these LBFM's.
Maybe it is the Alpha Male thing - Maybe its greedy?
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My GF is now an ex-BG, the jealousy thing is something I have had to struggle with quite a bit. Her former mamasan has told her she should move away from Patong because I will not trust and believe her while she is still there. My GF presented me with a list of towns/cities that maybe I would like her to move to, I told her to stay put and I will deal with my insecurities and jealousies. It is not easy to see the rare (she has not been a BG long) pictures of her posted on here...lol. In my situation I have much more of an emotional stake in the game as opposed to the content of this thread, but I can relate and sypathize with all who feel that "pang". I guess my question is, how can you not at some level have an emotional tie to a person who will treat you like a king even for a day? IMHO in these situations the little jealousy pang is a bit of reality check that says welcome back to the human race.
As for any "booms" in Patong, I am in Iraq. Relax and enjoy...YOU are in LOS!!! See you all in Feb.
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My GF is now an ex-BG, the jealousy thing is something I have had to struggle with quite a bit. Her former mamasan has told her she should move away from Patong because I will not trust and believe her while she is still there. My GF presented me with a list of towns/cities that maybe I would like her to move to, I told her to stay put and I will deal with my insecurities and jealousies. It is not easy to see the rare (she has not been a BG long) pictures of her posted on here...lol. In my situation I have much more of an emotional stake in the game as opposed to the content of this thread, but I can relate and sypathize with all who feel that "pang". I guess my question is, how can you not at some level have an emotional tie to a person who will treat you like a king even for a day? IMHO in these situations the little jealousy pang is a bit of reality check that says welcome back to the human race.
As for any "booms" in Patong, I am in Iraq. Relax and enjoy...YOU are in LOS!!! See you all in Feb.
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out of interest how are you dealing with the jealousy?also how much has it cost you to get this girl to stop working and how do you know she definately has?
if she genuinely liked you surely she should be able to stay in patong among her friends and still goto the bars but be decent enough to turn down any advances from men.
i think pushing her away from there will isolate her somewhere else where she wont no many people and this may push her into the arms of some1 else who befriends her,then again by remaining in patong there is the possibility of a younger/better looking model coming along and offering to take care of her as well.
i am not having a dig if it sounds like it,i am genuinely interested on your views on this.
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I try to meet the jealousy head on and deal with it internally. She has a past and I have a past. Hers just happens to be more interesting than mine...lol. It cost me nothing to get her out of the game, she is now going to school studying English and computers. I wil be totally honest, I am NOW paying for her school and her room. Mamason booted her out when she quit. After I got back to Iraq I had mentioned the bar to her and got *****ed at by her, her response that she quit the day I flew back. It is difficult to explain, but we really had a connection from the moment we met. I commented that she has not been in the game long, I think that helps. She has not become hardened and jaded as I have seen some. I am definitely not pushing her away. I told her to stay in Patong and we will just prove old mamasan wrong. She can go to the bars anytime she likes. I do not want her to leave for the very reasons you mentioned. All her friends are there. I like her friends and they like me (I think this is key). How do I know with certainty that she has quit? Quite frankly, I don't with certainty. It is however something very easy to check up on. FreeLancing on the other hand is harder to check on. Someone please put a gun to my head, but I am now to the point where I trust her. Everything I have been able to check on and verify, she has been spot on 100%. There is always the possiblity of a younger/better looking model coming along, that holds true back in the states. There is nothing I can do about that one other than treat her the best I can and deal with it if it happens. Steve, I do not take your questions or comments as a dig, and I am happy to discuss it. If you have questions please feel free to ask. Who knows, six months down the road I could be one of those on here whining "Oh she broke my little heart", but I am willing to roll the dice and take that chance.
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I try to meet the jealousy head on and deal with it internally. She has a past and I have a past. Hers just happens to be more interesting than mine...lol. It cost me nothing to get her out of the game, she is now going to school studying English and computers. I wil be totally honest, I am NOW paying for her school and her room. Mamason booted her out when she quit. After I got back to Iraq I had mentioned the bar to her and got *****ed at by her, her response that she quit the day I flew back. It is difficult to explain, but we really had a connection from the moment we met. I commented that she has not been in the game long, I think that helps. She has not become hardened and jaded as I have seen some. I am definitely not pushing her away. I told her to stay in Patong and we will just prove old mamasan wrong. She can go to the bars anytime she likes. I do not want her to leave for the very reasons you mentioned. All her friends are there. I like her friends and they like me (I think this is key). How do I know with certainty that she has quit? Quite frankly, I don't with certainty. It is however something very easy to check up on. FreeLancing on the other hand is harder to check on. Someone please put a gun to my head, but I am now to the point where I trust her. Everything I have been able to check on and verify, she has been spot on 100%. There is always the possiblity of a younger/better looking model coming along, that holds true back in the states. There is nothing I can do about that one other than treat her the best I can and deal with it if it happens. Steve, I do not take your questions or comments as a dig, and I am happy to discuss it. If you have questions please feel free to ask. Who knows, six months down the road I could be one of those on here whining "Oh she broke my little heart", but I am willing to roll the dice and take that chance.
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Just be very careful. I've seen friends get serious with BG 's that become their GF's and vice versa and you would think that butter melts in their mouth. But they still play up or work on the side even when they have got lots of money coming to them each month.
Just remember they know that you will be checking up on them............
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If there is indeed to be a relationship that is built on anything or is going to last.....at some point there must be trust.
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If there is indeed to be a relationship that is built on anything or is going to last.....at some point there must be trust.
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Thats the problem mate - Been burnt big time by a so called normal girl and I can't bring myself to trust any woman anymore...
How to learn to trust again???
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Thats the problem mate - Been burnt big time by a so called normal girl and I can't bring myself to trust any woman anymore...
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I am certainly no expert on this subject. All I know is what works for me. My love for my GF is unconditional...not blind and stupid...unconditional. I know she has a past..as do I. Yes in the beginning I did check up on her and verify everything I possible could. I am now satisfied that she has been 100% truthful with me. I do not give trust away, it is earned. And I feel she has done everything to earn my trust. Is it missplaced? Only time will tell. The only thing I can control in this relationship is me. Therefore I shall try to be the best I can be and treat her accordingly. I don't think there is way to "learn" to trust again. You will know when you "can" trust again. This is getting deep, me, mister-I-don't-normally-trust-anyone, trying to present ideas on this subject....lol
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Well here's my 2 cents worth. I always go into it with No expectations and therefore I am Never disappointed. May seem cynical but it works for me !
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Well here's my 2 cents worth. I always go into it with No expectations and therefore I am Never disappointed. May seem cynical but it works for me !
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I went with no expectations as well....but when I walked up to the bar and we locked eyes on each other for the first time....the sparks flew (we practically ran to each other so no else what get between us...lol).....and I was in the bag at that point.
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I went with no expectations as well....but when I walked up to the bar and we locked eyes on each other for the first time....the sparks flew (we practically ran to each other so no else what get between us...lol).....and I was in the bag at that point.
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Green gods.
My ex was unbearably jealous and in her case I was 100% faithful. Yet even coming home 10 mins late would result in a long interrogation or an evening of the cold treatment. It was hell.
Me? Yes, very jealous the moment a girl expresses affection I interpet as genuine. Its bad news and destructive in a relationship. Makes you feel really bad becasue half the time you are almost hoping to catch her out.
Problem is for me that I have to be convinced there is some affection there for me to enjoy the sex....otherwise it becomes a glorified *******. Thats why Thai girls are best I guess.
Yet Ive known girls that object to my jealosy and later actually say they are glad I am.....Just cant win.
There are a number of TGs working a few hours drive from where I live and they get seriously pissed if you go with someone different. Its not a money thing becasue they just wernt there on the nights in question. They stick together I guess and talk about their punters. Maybe I treat them too well...they do me OK 
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