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Shoe on the Other Foot?
Well I thought I'd start another thread about an opinion I saw on the thread "Sending money for support your GF!". A BM posted an opinion about BGs screwing over guys:
QUOTE:"...I really don't blame them for what they do. Maybe I'm a 'softie', but, I still respect them as individuals. The guys screw them so I have no problem with them screwing the guys...:"QUOTE
Does anyone have personal knowledge of guys treating BGs badly and deserving to get scammed? This doesn't make sense to me. I have visisted Patong quite often and have seen tons of falang-Thai couples hand-in-hand walking...eating...drinking at the bars...hanging at the beach. They seem to be treating each other very well. Am I naive? What is this guy talking about?
I personally treat all women the same. I try to be civil to all of them and I don't treat BGs any different. I do have one regret in my travels. There was a woman I spent 2 weeks with in Cuba a few years ago. She wasn't a BG, she was a teacher but was FLing to get extra cash. The mistake I made was I promised her I would return to Cuba to see her and I never did. That really bothered me, I swore I wouldn't do that again and I haven't. Now I don't make promises I'm not 100% sure I can keep. Do you guys think that a broken promise like the one I made would be enough to make a girl become a scheming bar girl?
Anyone want to share an experience they feel badly about? Any ideas at all on this topic?
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i think its been done to death mate.
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Well I thought I'd start another thread about an opinion I saw on the thread "Sending money for support your GF!". A BM posted an opinion about BGs screwing over guys:
QUOTE:"...I really don't blame them for what they do. Maybe I'm a 'softie', but, I still respect them as individuals. The guys screw them so I have no problem with them screwing the guys...:"QUOTE
Does anyone have personal knowledge of guys treating BGs badly and deserving to get scammed? This doesn't make sense to me. I have visisted Patong quite often and have seen tons of falang-Thai couples hand-in-hand walking...eating...drinking at the bars...hanging at the beach. They seem to be treating each other very well. Am I naive? What is this guy talking about?
I personally treat all women the same. I try to be civil to all of them and I don't treat BGs any different. I do have one regret in my travels. There was a woman I spent 2 weeks with in Cuba a few years ago. She wasn't a BG, she was a teacher but was FLing to get extra cash. The mistake I made was I promised her I would return to Cuba to see her and I never did. That really bothered me, I swore I wouldn't do that again and I haven't. Now I don't make promises I'm not 100% sure I can keep. Do you guys think that a broken promise like the one I made would be enough to make a girl become a scheming bar girl?
Anyone want to share an experience they feel badly about? Any ideas at all on this topic?
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16-02-2008, 07:03
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Now I don't make promises I'm not 100% sure I can keep.
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As with everything in life: "Never overpromise and underdeliver!"
(p.s.: Something I rub our Sales guys in all the time, they don't like it :-))
To your question about screwing guys for money, I personally find it fascinating and very skillful how the girls know which buttons to push in the right order ... I wish I would have that ability
...and not all are completely screwed since they all get the holiday of their lifetime, up to them what they take back home in their mind and how they handle it.
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Well I thought I'd start another thread about an opinion I saw on the thread "Sending money for support your GF!". A BM posted an opinion about BGs screwing over guys:
QUOTE:"...I really don't blame them for what they do. Maybe I'm a 'softie', but, I still respect them as individuals. The guys screw them so I have no problem with them screwing the guys...:"QUOTE
Does anyone have personal knowledge of guys treating BGs badly and deserving to get scammed? This doesn't make sense to me. I have visisted Patong quite often and have seen tons of falang-Thai couples hand-in-hand walking...eating...drinking at the bars...hanging at the beach. They seem to be treating each other very well. Am I naive? What is this guy talking about?
I personally treat all women the same. I try to be civil to all of them and I don't treat BGs any different. I do have one regret in my travels. There was a woman I spent 2 weeks with in Cuba a few years ago. She wasn't a BG, she was a teacher but was FLing to get extra cash. The mistake I made was I promised her I would return to Cuba to see her and I never did. That really bothered me, I swore I wouldn't do that again and I haven't. Now I don't make promises I'm not 100% sure I can keep. Do you guys think that a broken promise like the one I made would be enough to make a girl become a scheming bar girl?
Anyone want to share an experience they feel badly about? Any ideas at all on this topic?
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He obviously doesn't know what he is talking about ...
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16-02-2008, 08:34
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If this has been done to death, could someone kindly point me to a thread?
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Not only are there plenty of posts regarding guys treating BGs badly but I have noticed a LOT of girls who have to sit there for HOURS on end listening to some guy tell them how he "knows she is a bad girl" who "only wants his money" and that she is "a bad girl for working in a bar" and then expects to just pay her BF and her to be happy about it.
This forum gives people knowledge of the system and warns of pitfalls but some guys just seem to want to lecture the girls as to how they "know her game" and how they "wont get caught out".
Bravo.
Why can't people just enjoy it for what it is.
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felt like an asshole!
The first girl I hang out with in Thailand I left 3 days before my return! She was a nice hair dresser, with no problem to take off from work a month and half! We had a good time together, and I left her with enough money, until I was supposed to come back to her next month, + a english class I believed cost 7 500, wich turned out to be 12 500! She lost her phone, got new number, and also missed out for internet two times, and was so sorry, so that was enough reason for me to dump her 3 days before my return. It was hearthbreaking to see her in the other end crying, and telling me she was going to kill her self! The next day she turn up with a friend, and start chatting with me like nothing happend yesterday, and then play the hole thing again. I ask her if she did not understand I quit her, and she get shocked, tell her friend I finish her and cry out she is going to kill her self again!
When I arrive airport in thailand i got message how are you darling? I am waiting for you at airport. I wrote her back asking why she is there, and told her to go home since I was not in thailand. I then go trough custom, run upstairs and jump on a plane to phuket.
After I recieved messeges every day for a long time she loved me only, and after awhile I start recieving, she was sick and in hospital, father sick, she was broke, have to start working in bar, papa find out I am working in bar, I knew what was going on with this girl, but was never sure if something happend to her in the beginning, and felt like an **** everytime. Still today she e-mail me, and send text messages that she still love me, and dont care I am married! I only sent her money one time after I finish her so she would manage to get a job again with out starving the first month! It was some few sign there all the time, and once she told me about a man who wanted to take her to England, take care of her, but she did not love him! Seems every girl have one they dont love!
"hello baby.how are you today?yesterday my mobile missing.uanderstand
?now i no have your number.can u text me please...am so sorry about i cant come to internet shop.i dont want to make you angry when i cant do.i want to see you soon.22 may i will to wake up early to rise go to airport wait my hero.i miss you always.every time in my life only you baby.can i say i love and miss you.see you soon baby.i love you my hero. xxxxx+my hero <now i have new mobile can you text me"
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Now I don't make promises I'm not 100% sure I can keep. Do you guys think that a broken promise like the one I made would be enough to make a girl become a scheming bar girl?
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I`ve had a couple of BG`s new to the scene talk about broken promises from farang they have met and treated well.
One of them i was her first customer and after her second(another BM)"He bad man","he big bullsh1t man" are a couple of terms i remember being used.
She apparently believed his talk about loving her,and when she found out he was with someone else she said she cried.
Whats good for one is good for the other is the way she looked at it i guess,but i could see where it started with that particular one,and i try not to say i will do something if i am not sure i am able to do it.
So the answer to that particular question is, YES,IMO.
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I felt bad for her just reading your story. Thank you for your experience 434.
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The first girl I hang out with in Thailand I left 3 days before my return! She was a nice hair dresser, with no problem to take off from work a month and half! We had a good time together, and I left her with enough money, until I was supposed to come back to her next month, + a english class I believed cost 7 500, wich turned out to be 12 500! She lost her phone, got new number, and also missed out for internet two times, and was so sorry, so that was enough reason for me to dump her 3 days before my return. It was hearthbreaking to see her in the other end crying, and telling me she was going to kill her self! The next day she turn up with a friend, and start chatting with me like nothing happend yesterday, and then play the hole thing again. I ask her if she did not understand I quit her, and she get shocked, tell her friend I finish her and cry out she is going to kill her self again!
When I arrive airport in thailand i got message how are you darling? I am waiting for you at airport. I wrote her back asking why she is there, and told her to go home since I was not in thailand. I then go trough custom, run upstairs and jump on a plane to phuket.
After I recieved messeges every day for a long time she loved me only, and after awhile I start recieving, she was sick and in hospital, father sick, she was broke, have to start working in bar, papa find out I am working in bar, I knew what was going on with this girl, but was never sure if something happend to her in the beginning, and felt like an **** everytime. Still today she e-mail me, and send text messages that she still love me, and dont care I am married! I only sent her money one time after I finish her so she would manage to get a job again with out starving the first month! It was some few sign there all the time, and once she told me about a man who wanted to take her to England, take care of her, but she did not love him! Seems every girl have one they dont love!
"hello baby.how are you today?yesterday my mobile missing.uanderstand
?now i no have your number.can u text me please...am so sorry about i cant come to internet shop.i dont want to make you angry when i cant do.i want to see you soon.22 may i will to wake up early to rise go to airport wait my hero.i miss you always.every time in my life only you baby.can i say i love and miss you.see you soon baby.i love you my hero. xxxxx+my hero <now i have new mobile can you text me"
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whilst some girls are clearly hardcore working girls and playing suckers for fools (or vice versa) and other girls do fall ridiculously hard for guys who just want a bit of fun, there are plenty of bullshitters playing the Big Man and filling poorly educated girls heads with grandeur and false promises.
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whilst some girls are clearly hardcore working girls and playing suckers for fools (or vice versa) and other girls do fall ridiculously hard for guys who just want a bit of fun, there are plenty of bullshitters playing the Big Man and filling poorly educated girls heads with grandeur and false promises.
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Hobbsy, This and your previous post on this thread sum up my thoughts perfectly. And I'm sure they sum up the thoughts of the poor bloke who was quoted at the start of this thread. Thank you!
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Well I thought I'd start another thread about an opinion I saw on the thread "Sending money for support your GF!". A BM posted an opinion about BGs screwing over guys:
QUOTE:"...I really don't blame them for what they do. Maybe I'm a 'softie', but, I still respect them as individuals. The guys screw them so I have no problem with them screwing the guys...:"QUOTE
Does anyone have personal knowledge of guys treating BGs badly and deserving to get scammed? This doesn't make sense to me. I have visisted Patong quite often and have seen tons of falang-Thai couples hand-in-hand walking...eating...drinking at the bars...hanging at the beach. They seem to be treating each other very well. Am I naive? What is this guy talking about?
I personally treat all women the same. I try to be civil to all of them and I don't treat BGs any different. I do have one regret in my travels. There was a woman I spent 2 weeks with in Cuba a few years ago. She wasn't a BG, she was a teacher but was FLing to get extra cash. The mistake I made was I promised her I would return to Cuba to see her and I never did. That really bothered me, I swore I wouldn't do that again and I haven't. Now I don't make promises I'm not 100% sure I can keep. Do you guys think that a broken promise like the one I made would be enough to make a girl become a scheming bar girl?
Anyone want to share an experience they feel badly about? Any ideas at all on this topic?
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In short , YES. Dont promise what you cant deliver.... a couple of experiences like with you for the Teacher and you have made a woman hardened (or slightly crazy) for life...
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would you believe lads that I have just met a Chinese Singaporian lady who got married to a Thai man - she has told me he ripped her off something shocking.
Ended up he was still married to his Thai wife and went back every 2 months to see her telling Dor that she was his 'sister' looking after his daughter.
Dor was expected, and did, send thousands of Sing dollars to his family, paid for him to go to college in Sing, plus when she didn't do what he said he'd beat her up.
All this sounds as tho the guys are obviously as bad as some of the girls - I asked her why she did it and her reply was "but I loved him" - just goes to show that the fairer sex can be more gulable that we are at times.......!!!!!!!!
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i think the mistakes i made was not making clear my full intentions, but even if i did and said i only wanted to butterfly, they were usually ignored
when i stayed in Patong for a decent length of time, i sort of made the mistake of being involved with 3 girls at the same time. i realyl dont enjoy being with a different girl everynight, i like familarity and a little chemistry
it sort of made me a little too stressed and having to deal with bullshit i didnt want to
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Hobbsy, This and your previous post on this thread sum up my thoughts perfectly. And I'm sure they sum up the thoughts of the poor bloke who was quoted at the start of this thread. Thank you!
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Well Sir Douglas...I didn't wanna mention the blokes name who I quoted because I didn't want to single him out or make the discussion about him...I'm sure you understand eh? Now that the thread is dead I can say that.
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So what has made you ask such a question Choakmydee?
Just curious. I could be forgiven for thinking you are writing a book?
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Well Sir Douglas...I didn't wanna mention the blokes name who I quoted because I didn't want to single him out or make the discussion about him...I'm sure you understand eh? Now that the thread is dead I can say that.
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Aww gee, thanks!
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"The thread's dead baby...the thread's dead...."
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So what has made you ask such a question Choakmydee?
Just curious. I could be forgiven for thinking you are writing a book?
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No, not writing a book, I had some thought about this and decided to start a thread. Apparently this has been covered before but I havent yet seen another thread.
Just curious, do you know of a thread where this has been covered?
PS I like your avatar. That's my favourite scene in the movie!
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I felt bad for her just reading your story. Thank you for your experience 434.
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You felt bad for her? You say I was wrong giving her up? She played me for the english class money, and she played me for the missing phone, she had two numbers, and the old one she lost, she start to use later again! She was a pro freelancer, covering she was working in a beutie saloon. How else could she take off so long from work? A good girl would not miss out from work to long!
By the way, I felt really bad for a long time to, so sad the whole thing. Im sure she was longing for a steady long term relationship, but as said many places before, they do not wait even it is for one week, one month or 2 months until you come back! They play as many horses they can at the same time! It is about a kid staying in a candy shop and can not touch anything! If you have been to the places most of this girls coming from, you know what I am talking about!
I guess the same goes for many of the falangs coming to Asia as cybernator states "Life is like a box of chocolates..... you go to Thailand and get greedy " What goes around comes around!
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