Truth or BG Fiction

[steveski]

Hi all,

My BG friend is back in Korat and her sister told me that she had trouble getting a job in the factories etc there as the ladies that worked there knew that she had done bar work and did not want to work with her, i assume.
She is now working with her brother on the farm.
Does this sound for real, would the normal Thais be this norrow minded towards a girl who has worked in a bar?
Or does this sound like BS?

Anyone heard of this one before?
Thanks,

[alibaba]

Don't know.
I have known several BGs. that have returned to Korat & gone back to work in the factories, "sweatshops" I know of at least 2 who have done it 3 or 4 times. Also I know 2 who have gone back to work in clothes factories in B/Kok with no problems.

[steve@thaib]

Hey Steve. I think that it's entirely possible that the 'regular' girls would be hard on a girl coming back from working in the bar scene, it does carry an amount of stigma (or jealousy, depending on your view). I have known plenty of girls settle back into village life though, it can be done.

Of course, it could also be that she is struggling to adjust to earning 50baht a day for pulling her tripe for ten hours. If that is the case, she would be highly likely to look for an excuse in order to not lose any face (the other girls don't like me so what else can I do?) and get back into the bar scene asap.

[steveski]

Thanks guys,
I don't know where the story is going as it was her sister who told me but i will see. There has not been any mention of going back to bar yet or send me money so that i not have to go to bar but we will see

[steveski]

Well it appears that I was just being played for the fool. She said that she was interested in learning English and computers. Here is the good part, for 2 months 2 hours a day it is 40K baht, yeah right and I am Arnie’s twin.
This was the girl that I wrote about a few months ago that I liked and I did not think that she was such a polished act, maybe not polished and flash but just like the rest.
Farg I am a dumb shite, oh well I think I am going to take the farg em and forget em line now. You try and be nice and you’re treated like a fool.
It is no wonder that guys go to the dark side with constant shit like this.
Like WC Field said “ a woman drove me to drink and I never had the good manners to thank her” guess that I have been in better moods. Oh well time for a bourbon or three ish.
Farg me!

[anubis]

There are plenty of other fish in the ocean so next time u will find a better one, or maybe even better go butterfly all the time

[steveski]

Originally Posted by anubis

There are plenty of other fish in the ocean so next time u will find a better one, or maybe even better go butterfly all the time

Yes i think that you are right maybe better to be big butterfly

[khon kaen boy]

sorry to hear that but as anubis says plenty more

[steveski]

They have a saying to fix this problem,
"NEXT" and as you say there are plenty more.
In 5 weeks i will be there so i can sample some of the plenty more.

[richie007]

Sorry to hear that ........you sound a bit dissapointed which is understandable especially if you thought that she might be a bit different from the rest.

Is this the first time you've been asked for money like that or has it happened many times before???

Either way just think that its better to see wehat her true colours are now then waste moretime and find out later

[steveski]

Richie,

No this one has never asked me for anything to be honest. I did send some money after the Tsunami so that she could go home. She did not ask for anything, she was a mess after I finally got her on the phone just crying and saying that she wanted to go home to her mum.
I seen her last trip (March) and only payed her for the time I spent with her.
I got a bit angry over something so I just stopped corresponding and she sent me the odd message but was no hassle.
I did not hear from her for a while and then I found out from her brother inlaw in the UK that her mum had an accident on her motor cycle but my TG did not want to tell me due to all of the mother sick in hospital stories, so I was not told and was not asked for anything form this accident.
So we started contact again and it was actually me who suggested that she learn English as her English is very limited and not being face to face it is extremely difficult for us to communicate on the phone. My Thai is very limited not at conversation level.

Diz,

Thanks mate, here sister in UK has since been in contact with me and I talked to my TG tonight and found out what supposedly happened. I got a sms from the sister that night telling me but I just ignored it. As my TG can not write English when ever she chats or emails some one else does the typing for her in the shop, she was on chat when I was asked for 40,000. She said she told the girl 14,000 for both English and computer 7,000 each but the girl told her that farang can afford big money and put the 40,000. She said she told the girl no but she put 40,000 anyway. I have wrote in other threads about this happening before. I did not answer the request on chat and I guess that I was a bit cold on chat. I did not communicate with her after this as I thought that I was being stitched up.

Considering the situation I may have over reacted. I have had problems before with the girls in the internet shop writing what they think without asking the girl exactly what to write. I am torn between feeling a bit foolish as in have I overreacted, or have they tried something on and then made a lot of excuses when I didn’t play the game and am I just being setup for a smaller amount. It is so bloody hard to know when you are not there!

I do think this one wants out of the game and I do think that she is reasonably genuine. When she talked to me tonight she said she wasn’t after money and forget the computer side and only send her enough for the English so that we can communicate or if I could not afford this don’t worry as she just did not want my money.

Will see how it goes, farg I am really confused at the moment so I will give it some time to think it over.

Thanks for the input all.

[steve@thaib]

Hey Steve, if all she wants is 14k and you think that she is trying hard to get out of the game then maybe you could just help her out?

You could be giving her the only shot she has at living a better life, and that would be quite something to be able to give as a gift. Take a little chance mate, give her the money. If it's the wrong thing to do so what? You made a genuine gesture and shame on her, it only cost you a couple of hundred quid.

If it's the right thing to do then you have done a wonderful thing for no return.

[khon kaen boy]

Steve go for it 100% as previously mentioned by steve@thaib what is 200 quid anyway, it would be a drop in the ocean if everything worked out for you, and think of it you both would be able to communicate a lot better

Too many of these internet shop girls are just meddling b******* and should mind their own business, jealousy is a terrible thing for them

[steveski]

Thanks again guys,

Diz, you crack me up.

I'll sleep better now!

[steveski]

So here is where we are now with this.
I thought about the words of Wisdom from the experienced and thought that I would give it a go. So I sent enough money to cover the first half of the education. I thought about it for a while and realised that I had initiated her to get the prices, it was my suggestion as I was getting very frustrated with not being able to communicate.
So I sent of about half. About 1 week later I got a thank you card and also the original receipts from the school. It had never occurred to me to ask for these. They are in Thai but the Thai student that shares the unit with me told me that they were from the school and the subjects and date were as she said.
So now it is up to her to make the most of the opportunity that has been provided to her.
Thanks for the input BMs.

[steve@thaib]

That's a great thing to do Steve; Fair play.

Let's hope she has the stamina to see it through and the decency not to hit you up for more money too often!

If she is doing what she said she would, that is a great start. Good luck

[t0rn]

Steveski

Well done, that is a nice thing to do.
Hope things work out for her.

[Kiekeboe]

Thai lady's seems to have bad luck.


My girlfriend sent me a e-mail.

Dear Kiekeboe: I love you and miss you too much.
Now I have problem.
I tell you before my buffalo was sick. Now it die.
Fall down in middle of rice field.
When it fall, it land on papa and break his leg in three places.
Now he can not work.
Brother me make stretcher from bamboo he take from roof of house.
Then roof fall and rain get in house.
Mama take papa to hospital on motorcycle. She have accident coming home.
Run into police car. Brother me to blame.
Police say we have to pay big money.
Motorcycle ok. Police car kaput.
Mama now have heart ploblem.
Doctor say she need triple by-pass.
I not understand what is. He say you understand.
Up to now I only work cashier in bar and not go with man.
I wait for you to come back Pattaya.
If you not will help me I have to go with many many many many many man to pay bills.
The old people in my village think that it is all your fault.
If you send money to buy medicine for sick buffalo when I ask then it not die.
Papa not break leg. house still have roof mama not run in police car Mama not have heart problem.
Please send 200,000 baht for my bank account.
Papa fix: 10,000
New roof: 30,000
Fix police car: 100,000
Mama fix: 50,000
I take off 2,000 baht for sell buffalo meat but have to pay more hospital bill for 24 people have problem eat bad meat -12,000 baht.
I not know money Euro but friend say it is about 50,54 baht.
This mean you send me 10.000 Euro. Little bit money for important man like you.
I love you too much you sexy man.
Dee.

Somebody please tell me what can I do

[t0rn]

While amusing, I think what Steveski is doing is something very worthy.
How often do you get a chance to change someones life for the better ....... ?

[steveski]

I got a laugh out of it.

Thought that it was good!

[alibaba]

Very old hat & booooooooooring.
We've heard it all before, a thousand times.
It's not funny anymore.

[Tyfon]

Originally Posted by dizbusta

..."I'm horny". 55555 What I was supposed to do 6,000 miles away is beyond me !!

Stick your **** in your CD drive and email it to her.

K.

[Captain]

Originally Posted by Tyfon

Stick your **** in your CD drive and email it to her.

K.

I don't have a CD drive on my PC but I have this elegant little platform on the front of my PC. My beer just fits in it.

[Barney Gumble]

Originally Posted by steveski

So here is where we are now with this.
I thought about the words of Wisdom from the experienced and thought that I would give it a go. So I sent enough money to cover the first half of the education. I thought about it for a while and realised that I had initiated her to get the prices, it was my suggestion as I was getting very frustrated with not being able to communicate.
So I sent of about half. About 1 week later I got a thank you card and also the original receipts from the school. It had never occurred to me to ask for these. They are in Thai but the Thai student that shares the unit with me told me that they were from the school and the subjects and date were as she said.
So now it is up to her to make the most of the opportunity that has been provided to her.
Thanks for the input BMs.

Good on you mate. I've been through all the emotions you talk about. The long distance TG relationship is certainly a roller coaster ride.
I think the internet shop interpreters some times do more harm than good in these situations. I think you have to put these girls (the interpreters) in their place very early.

For what it's worth, it sounds like your girl is genuine and really wants to have a go at a better life. Try and show her some trust, really what have you got to lose?
There is nothing like the love and devotion of a genuine Thai girl. I am still not 100% sure about my girl, but getting close. One thing for sure, it's never boring.

[steveski]

Thanks for the feedback BMs

[steveski]

Well for an update, some will be laughing their guts out, Ally don’t fall of your chair from laughing to fargin hard now.
She did get the computer and English courses and the way that she said thank you just touched my little heart.
She used this new information to contact more farangs on chat and email. Thanks to a previous thread about breaking the code I have seen the evidence with my own crying (I don’t think so) eyes.
I know that she is looking for a better life but farg me I thought at least 30 seconds would have elapsed before she turned the new knowledge over to the dark side.
Are we a bit tougher oh yeah, lesson well learnt.
Where’s Gs how to be a total bastard course? Sign me up. No more MR nice guy

[LivinLOS]

be philosophical tho..

You did say you were doing it to make an investment in her future.. That it was to try and assist her into a better life..

I guess she interprets that to mean more farang sponsors ASAP with her new found tools and skill set..

Sorry mate

[aussie dollar]

sorry to hear it didnt work out
we all learm from our experiences you tried to do a good thing and were let down
thanks for sharing your experince
better luck next time
AD

[steveski]

Thanks LL, I am not to bitter, live and learn, every day is a school day. Her short sightedness may have cost her a lot more than she will ever realise.
Another lesson, one more level of thicker skin.
More reason to be a butterfly.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by steveski

Well for an update, some will be laughing their guts out, Ally don’t fall of your chair from laughing to fargin hard now.
She did get the computer and English courses and the way that she said thank you just touched my little heart.
She used this new information to contact more farangs on chat and email. Thanks to a previous thread about breaking the code I have seen the evidence with my own crying (I don’t think so) eyes.
I know that she is looking for a better life but farg me I thought at least 30 seconds would have elapsed before she turned the new knowledge over to the dark side.
Are we a bit tougher oh yeah, lesson well learnt.
Where’s Gs how to be a total bastard course? Sign me up. No more MR nice guy

Don't think many BM's will laugh at this situation Steve....as l think most of us have experienced something similiar at some stage.

I think it gets back to the rule that Geespot always mentions (and others on the board) unless they move to Farangland or you move to LOS on a permanent basis a success relationship is a longshot.

[steveski]

Hey Diz,
How’s things well I hope? I have told her that I am sure she has chat friends and emails other men but of course there is only me. If I tell her how I know I will let the cat out of the bag and it is better for me to just keep my secret and watch what eventuates on her email etc.
Put me off LOS, NO FARGIN WAY, hopefully put me off being to generous or to much of a nice guy. Just gotta be tougher.
I knew this before I went over but I had already told her the flight details etc (prior to knowing), so she was going to be at the airport to meet me any way.
I went pretty ballistic this last trip, drank way more than I usually do, but I had this issue in the back of my mind and could not directly front her with my proof.

I am in the process of typing up a trip report but think that it will be a bit tame compared to some of the legends. See what happens.

We are still in contact and I have told her I only want to be friends she is still trying hard but I have a mind set about her now, don’t hate her but know I am being played for a dumb farang. If you are easy going and a bit generous it seems to be equated to stupid farang. I don’t want to sound like a sap but I do understand that she is after a better life and I haven’t promised her anything but if she genuinely liked me, not loved but liked even a bit, I didn’t think that behaviour would have happened so quick. Good luck to her maybe she’ll find what she is looking for with some one else on the net. Probably she’ll be bull shited to like most of them.
Even after I sent her home from Patong and I went to Pattaya she came to see me at the airport in Bkk when I left. I think that she realised she had blown it and was attempting damage control.

My next trip will probably be to PI as I think I need a little break from Patong.
But I’ll be back to Thai and Patong for sure.

[doublejack]

Steveski,

the dark side is strong, never forget it! Come Stevesky, come to the dark side!

These Thai ladies are enchantresses, it's very difficult to resist to their appeal!
I'm sorry to hear that she was just a charmer, but very glad to hear you resist to her pull and did not dash your boat against the rocks following the enchanted song of the mermaids!

[Burg]

Originally Posted by steveski

You try and be nice and you’re treated like a fool.
... It is no wonder that guys go to the dark side with constant shit like this.

Yes, what's wrong with her? She is a bargirl. Of course they treat you like shit. They don't give a f[aeiou]ck about you. They do give you the impression that you are special, and when somebody whispers that 20 times in your ear, you start to believe it yourself.

If you want to find a normal Thai lady, stay out of Patong.

Again a waste of time, posting this. Boats and plane's will arrive, all with new falang, and they all believe after 6 days that "she is special", "not like the other", "she really cares about me". "she didn't ask me for one baht".

If you don't learn from history, then you are an idiot by definition.

[steve@thaib]

Jeez Burg, ease up, the guy is just trying to be honest and share his experience. We can all be smart afterwards, and we all went there for the first time at least once.

[Burg]

Originally Posted by steve@thaib

Hey Steve, if all she wants is 14k ..... it only cost you a couple of hundred quid.

Don't be a fool. If you want to give away money do it to other people, for example, the two old people on a motorbike driving around and investigating garbage bins for paper, plastic and bottles, trying to make end meets. THAT would be a warm gesture.

Forget about the bargirls. F[aeiou]ck them if you like, pay them and get your ass out of there!

“A fool and his money are soon parted”