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All Black + The Haka
I was just wondering about your thoughts on whether or not the ABs should be allowed to do the Haka before International Rugby matches......and does it give them an unfair advantage in psyching out their opponents???
It would seem that the new Haka which now includes a gesture of running he thumb accross the throat in an obvious throat slitting gesture (despite what the ABs team + management are saying to the contrary) is quite inflamatory
I of course love the Haka and the feeling of the hair raising on the back of the kneck however i imagine for the rest of the world this could seem quite intimidating??.....so I am not so sure about the new version (with the thumb gesture)
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Why not, they should be allowed to go for it. I love watching it, and all other sports teams that play them know all too well about it.
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24-11-2005, 07:01
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I think it's a fantastic spectacle, long may it continue. I'm not convinced that it does anything to the opposition, they must have seen it all before.
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Glad to see these positive response from the Steves.......................
I think that it would be a tragedy for Rugby and its traditions if a few boring old farts had their way and banned it........ as is some of the talk in the press here today......... claiming that reports out of England haveThe English RU less than pleased about the new version and see it as an open "threat/taunt" to the opposition from the ABs............
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24-11-2005, 12:21
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Yep have been in Patong, but difficult to get online as my phone line wasnt working, how unusual.
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24-11-2005, 13:55
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I am all for it.. Psych out it may be but effective and impressive it is..
I always love it when seeing them really go off on a full power one..
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Im All For It As Well.its Great To Watch............
I Reckon My Team Should Do Some Irish Dancing Before Matches..it Mite Make The Opposition Lose Concentration !!!!!!!!!!! Its Our Only Chance Of Winning At The Moment !!
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I Reckon My Team Should Do Some Irish Dancing Before Matches..
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25-11-2005, 03:12
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I think the Haka is an important part of international rugby, however I would like to see other sides being allowed to respond. For example, if I was ever captain of the England rugby team I would push make a response and that would be to line up against your opposite number, shake their hand and whilst saying in a very British stiff upper lip accent "may the best team win old boy !!" 
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Im All For It As Well.its Great To Watch............
I Reckon My Team Should Do Some Irish Dancing Before Matches..it Mite Make The Opposition Lose Concentration !!!!!!!!!!! Its Our Only Chance Of Winning At The Moment !!
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That would be a great spectacle Jonny..........and if they get really pumped they might even move their arms??????........
Are people in Ireland still talking about THAT tackle...........I was there at the match and it looked pretty bad to me.......and hasn't looked any better on replays????
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Are people in Ireland still talking about THAT tackle...........I was there at the match and it looked pretty bad to me.......and hasn't looked any better on replays????
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YES PEOPLE STILL TALK ABOUT IT
BUT ITS HISTORY....YOU GOTTA BE TOUGH TO PLAY RUGBY......TO BE HONEST IVE SEEN TOUGHER HITS IN RUGBY LEAUGE AND THE NFL....
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I think the Haka is an important part of international rugby, however I would like to see other sides being allowed to respond. For example, if I was ever captain of the England rugby team I would push make a response and that would be to line up against your opposite number, shake their hand and whilst saying in a very British stiff upper lip accent "may the best team win old boy !!" 
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I seem to remember a team did line up to them a few years ago (Ireland maybe???). Looked like they were facing up to them. There was criticism that this was inflammatory, but I thought it was all part of the game. Some excellent facial expressions on the Kiwis and if they were just a few yards away from me, I'd probably do a Dawsey  .
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I seem to remember a team did line up to them a few years ago (Ireland maybe???). Looked like they were facing up to them. There was criticism that this was inflammatory, but I thought it was all part of the game. Some excellent facial expressions on the Kiwis and if they were just a few yards away from me, I'd probably do a Dawsey  .
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That was England Gez  Richard Cockerill the ****** was almost in the face of the front Kiwi doing the Haka  . A bit confrontational I suppose but his way of dealing with it.
I'm all for the Haka. Its part and parcel of the entertainment and these seasoned internationals don't worry about it.
The Samoan ceremony is very similar.
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David Campese answered it best by turning his back on them,walking down to the try line and totally ignoring them ! I always wondered why opposition teams just stand there and not react ! Has to be politics!!
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David Campese answered it best by turning his back on them,walking down to the try line and totally ignoring them ! I always wondered why opposition teams just stand there and not react ! Has to be politics!!
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Whats to react to?? If other teams had a 'thing' to do, well they could also do it before a match, but they dont. Doesnt mean a team that has a 'thing' shouldnt be allowed to do it, and they should be respected whilst they do it. Turning your back and walking away is just ignorant and rude.
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Not really it just his way of doing his 'thing in reply to their 'thing. You like it and I hate it and that's where I'll leave it. Besides, Campo was a rude bastard anyway, but was a great player !
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Whats to react to?? If other teams had a 'thing' to do, well they could also do it before a match, but they dont. Doesnt mean a team that has a 'thing' shouldnt be allowed to do it, and they should be respected whilst they do it. Turning your back and walking away is just ignorant and rude.
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I agree with Jaws, it was "his thing" and he should be allowed to do it - your words not mine.
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That was England Gez  : Richard Cockerill the ****** was almost in the face of the front Kiwi doing the Haka  : . A bit confrontational I suppose but his way of dealing with it.
I'm all for the Haka. Its part and parcel of the entertainment and these seasoned internationals don't worry about it.
The Samoan ceremony is very similar.
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100% with you.
If the team facing you just beat all 4 "home" nations, that's intimidating. The dance doesn't come into it.
Mind you, I would hate to see the Scottish Rugby team doing a full highland fling in kilts on a windy day 
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Mind you, I would hate to see the Scottish Rugby team doing a full highland fling in kilts on a windy day 
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We'd do what they did in Brave Heart , turn around, lift the kilts , and show them the "Ancient Scottish Brown Eye " 
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whats "all black"
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The all blacks are the NZ rugby team
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Maybe England can get some of those Morris Dancers ???
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Can think of quite a few answers, none of them "Politically Correct". 
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Why not, they should be allowed to go for it. I love watching it, and all other sports teams that play them know all too well about it.
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Absolutely agreed ;it's part of the excitement of Rugby; and the Samoans do a similar tribal tour de force.
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