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Dont agree at all, Spinks and Berbick were top class fighters, So was Tucker and Smith at that time, I agree with Homles coming to the end though, And Biggs and Bruno were no mugs either... And Douglas being the fighter with talent and intelligence is a bit of a joke really, After he beat Tyson what did he do? Tyson went into that fight in the wrong frame of mind, He had way to much on his mind with the story breaking about the rape, That was the beginning of the end for him... I do agree that none of the above fighters who Tyson are in the class of Ali, Foreman or Frazier but I dont think that will ever happen again, Thats not his fault but what Tyson done was totally destoy anything that was put in front of him, What else can you ask for? And even them guys fought a good few bums and journey men in between the few fights they had against each other, Dont forget that  My opinion remains the same, I am sure though that I am in the big minority about my opinion, Due to the mythical status of the fighters of the past, Its the same with footballers etc..etc.. We will just have to disagree 
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Tyrell Biggs was knocked out by Lewis in 3 rounds. We all saw what happened to Bruno, both fighters 'no mugs'.
When Tyson lost to Douglas in Tokyo (I think) he was on his 'bum of the month' tour, but he was there to be had as well. The fight before Douglas was Frank Bruno and it's a real shame that Bruno was not a slightly better boxer because he had a shot there. Had Cus D'Amato not died I think that Tyson would have been around long enough to really cement himself in the 'hall of fame'. As things were left he was no more than a what-would-have-been. Sad really. He was good and he could have been special, but like so many of them he ended up believing his own hype. Buster Douglas was just in the right place at the right time. I think the comment about them all carrying on too long is spot on. There is no doubt in my mind that the health problems that Ali has now are down to the fact that he was getting pummelled well into his 40s. The only champion of recent times who knew when to call it a day is Lennox Lewis. He was dignified, dedicated and beat everyone that was put in front of him at least once. He spanked Tyson like a naughty boy and was at the top of the tree for over a decade. Lewis and Tyson never met in their prime, any more than Ali and Tyson did so all this is subjective. For me, Lennox Lewis brought some dignity to the sport at a time when it needed it, and some genuine talent. I guess you are right there Ally, we disagree about this one. For me Lennox Lewis is the best heavyweight champion of modern times, for lots of reasons.
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Barry McGuigan did that too. A boy from Ireland, unbeatable at home (Kings Hall?) fighting in the desert in Texas. Whoever told him that was a good idea needs a kicking
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By the time Lewis fought him he was already finished at the top end of boxing, After Tyson beat him he lost his confidence and also something like the next 4 out of 8 fights, Up until then he was undefeated, The same as Tony Tucker, When Tyson beat him he was in his prime at 29 and still undefeated, Lewis had him aswell on the way down at 35, So like all the other fighters Lewis fought them on the way down, Hand picked that way IMO the only reason he fought him was because he knew Tyson was long finished, And he knew he could beat him but even at that it took him 8 rounds to do it, Tyson was a bum at that stage and his only interest was money... Seriously though, I just never took to Lewis from the start, Hated his style of boxing, Keeping his opponents far enough away to hit them with the jab, And then the minute they get close, He just locked them up in a bear hug like his life depended on it... I hate that kind of boxing... But each to there own... One thing I or no else can never take away from him, Is that he was a 3 time champion of the world... He just would not be in the top few for me...
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To be onest wasent Tyson in his best years a product
of legendary trainer Cus D’Amato. When he died Tyson was quite down and never did get back his psychics. And some Sportswriters equated Tyson to the schoolyard bully who cowers as soon as someone did stand up to him the latest years 
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Same here Bono. Maybe thats why I am just a little  biast 
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this is a little off topic, but i told you about peter king articles on SI.com i see alot of scandinavians send him email. seems like you guys follow our sports pretty well over there
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I told you, La Hoya is not in the past Ref: May 6, 2006 It was a fight nearly two years in the making, but less than two minutes into the much-anticipated battle between the trash-talking slugger Ricardo Mayorga and the pedigreed boxer-promoter Oscar De La Hoya, boxing's Golden Boy made a definitive statement. Working a series of short, inside punches, De La Hoya thrilled the large crowd at the MGM Grand Arena in Las Vegas by knocking Mayorga to the canvas with a stiff left hook. Mayorga recovered, but the tone of the fight - a technical mismatch between the potent boxer and the wild-throwing brawler - was set.
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Yes I was wrong, I should have known better than to write him off, He done very well last night, He put in a good performance and totally dominated the fight from start to finish... Although I have to say Mayorga was totally overrated, He looked more like a bum than champion...
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Sorry couldnt let it go
 But what happend with Mayweather vs Hattan? (April i think) any posibility for the ultimate match : Oscar De La Hoya vs. Floyd Mayweather
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Mayweather Vs Hattan?... Unfortunatly there is nothing on the cards as yet.. Hattan will be fighting next week in the middleweight division.. He has stepped up.. But had to hand up nearly all his titles as far as I know, He had to give up his IBF title, And now his WBA title he just won because he did not fight the mandatory challenger.. His next fight is... LUIS COLLAZO v RICKY HATTON WBA Welterweight title Plus CLINTON WOODS v JASON DELISLE IBF Light-Heavyweight title LIVE ON SKY BOX OFFICE Saturday, May 13 After that, Which I am sure he will win, He hopefully will get a shot against Mayweather.. Would really love to see that fight 
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OK but did now i had read about it somewhere so i did a seach and this is what was written:
De La Hoya is still the biggest draw in boxing and he gave the sport a much-need shot in the arm on this night. De La Hoya wouldn’t comment on his future plans but there is much speculation that he will meet Floyd Mayweather Jr. in a mega-money fight in September. Mayweather would be favored in such a bout … but not by as wide a margin as he would have before the Golden Boy demonstrated that he’s far from finished. Welcome back Oscar!
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The problem with boxing is there are too many boxing authorities WBC/WBA/WBO/IBF and their rankings of the fighters varies wildy.
SO even if you do get a unified title, one authority demands a title defence against one fighter while another demands a defence against a different fighter altogether and the title holder has to choose a belt to drop. Ridiculous. I still like a good fight and like seeing undefeated fighters. Manny Pacquiao vs Barrera was awesome fight last year (took him apart and Barrera is quality). Valuev is a heavyweight FREAK which i like - get some genetic monsters in there like the WWE lol. I still like UFC and K1 events tho - when you see crowds of 120,000 in Tokyo going wild it amps it up.
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dont praise de la hoya too much. mayorga was threatening to pull out of the fight 2 days before because he wasn't getting paid enough he drinks and smokes more cigarettes than gson. mayweather will kill de la hoya
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was a good fight tho - and De La Hoya looked better than he has for a long while - it was the partisan crowd that made that fight tho, great atmosphere.
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OSCAR STILL HAS IT.EVEN FOR AN OLE FELL.....5555555555.....IJ
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Dont agree But some toughts:Floyd's father is De La Hoya's trainer and this would cause problems in the circle esprcially if De La Hoya wins. I would pick De La Hoya by a very close decision. I feel he has more experince, boxing mobility and his speed is still there for now. Mayweather hasn't proved he can take a punch I put some money on this one
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yeah, could be interesting as Floyd Mayweather has stated he would feel uncomfortable training a man to beat his son.
I still think FMW Junior would win a bout between them, Mayoorga played straight into De La Hoya's hands and FMW Jnr would just plain outpace him.
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