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Old 19-03-2006, 00:04
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Isent the case that the horses are pressed so hard until they are so exhausted that its going on the safety.They stumble over the hurdles and trample wrong so they break their bones and have to be put to death ?

I read that 6 dead horses in one day was the highest number on a hors -racing festival in twenty years
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Well 2 things..

I always feel that its only fair to complain about animals dieing if your a vegetarian.. Otherwise its a bit hypocritcal isnt it ?? Of course that doesnt extend to cruelty to animals in any way but i dont think anyone can argue that people were being cruel to racehorses.

Second thing is to say 'nothing can be done' is a bit odd to me ?? I guess that it was meant that nothing thats financially viable can be done as the horses racing carear is likely to be over.. Surely horses can heal from broken bones if they are cared for properly ?? Wasnt that even the thing with Seabiscuit ??
When a horse breaks a leg during racing, then it's near on a certainty that the vet will terminate the horse's life, in the best interests of the horse. This has absolutely nothing to do with costs, loss of money or anything else. It is done purely on a "what is best for the horse" scenario.

These injuries are not like hairline fractures and therefore basically untreatable.

With regards to Seabiscuit, I don't recall him ever breaking any of his legs. The horse was born with crooked legs and walked in an odd way plus was a lot smaller than other horses.
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Taken from the book Seabiscuit, Three Men and A Racehorse by Laura Hillenbrand...

...The veterinarian examined the leg, then painted it in liniment, packed it in mud, and wrapped it loosely in fresh bandages soaked in ice water. He emerged to the forlorn collection of grooms but offered no verdict. He said the unjury needed time to declare itself. It could be as bad as a broken bone or a blown suspensory ligament. Or it could be as minor as a kick bruise. Whatever it was, the vet thought Smith was wrong. It was in the knee, he said, not the ankle...

The book then goes on to say...

...Smith was right : It was the ankle, not the knee...


...The X rays came back. There was no fracture. The injury was in the suspensory ligament...

Had it been a fracture, then the likelihood is that Seabiscuit would have been put down, but instead (thankfully IMO) it was not and he went on to finally win the hundred-grander at Santa Anita !!
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Hmm nice sport, only 8 horses died
ITS SAD TO SEE HORSES DIE....BUT THESE HORSES ARE TREATED BETTER THAN PEOPLE...............
THE PRICE TO KEEP A HORSE IN TRAINING [IRELAND] CAN BE UP TO 1000 EUROS A WEEK............I WOULD HATE TO THINK OF THE BIG SHOTS LIKE STOUTE,PIPE, NICOLLS AND DUNLOP !!!
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When I had a share in a flat racing horse a couple of years ago, the trainer's fee charged was £1,600 a month all-inclusive.

I think I'm in the wrong game
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When I had a share in a flat racing horse a couple of years ago, the trainer's fee charged was £1,600 a month all-inclusive.

I think I'm in the wrong game
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WHO HAD YE THE HORSE WITH?
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STAR SENSATION with Peter Harris.

She's now over in Ireland with foal, but I'm not sure who the sire is.
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STAR SENSATION with Peter Harris.

She's now over in Ireland with foal, but I'm not sure who the sire is.
IS THAT THE GUY WHOSE DAUGHTER MARRIED THE ALTAR BOY?
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Yes, I spoke to them on several occasions. The cheeky sod told me that if I had ridden Shergar instead of him in the Derby, then the horse would have come second !!
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Yes, I spoke to them on several occasions. The cheeky sod told me that if I had ridden Shergar instead of him in the Derby, then the horse would have come second !!
I RECKON YOU COULD HAVE CARRIED SHERGAR AND STILL WON THE DERBY.....55555555...............ONLY JOSHING YOU DIZ..............
HE WAS MY FAVOURITE JOCK WHEN I WAS GROWING UP...HIM ON THE FLAT AND JAMIE OSBORNE OVER THE JUMPS..........IJ
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I RECKON YOU COULD HAVE CARRIED SHERGAR AND STILL WON THE DERBY.....55555555...............ONLY JOSHING YOU DIZ..............
HE WAS MY FAVOURITE JOCK WHEN I WAS GROWING UP...HIM ON THE FLAT AND JAMIE OSBORNE OVER THE JUMPS..........IJ
During my days as an Apprentice Gambler, it was Kevin Darley and Peter Scudamore
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During my days as an Apprentice Gambler, it was Kevin Darley and Peter Scudamore
DARLEY IS STILL RIDING BUT NOW ITS YOUNG TOM YOULL BE BACKING...HES NOT HALF THE JOCK HIS LOE FELLA WAS..........IJ
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