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Well Aresenal very unlucky to have goaly sent off in first half so played with 10 men for most of the match.........and still lead 1-0 at half time........Barca home with a wet sail with 2 goals in second half..........
I reckon goalie send off was a tough decision.........55555
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Lasting until 75th min 1-0 up - pity that ended that way - but no shame in the way Arsenal played with 10 men and to loose 2-1 shows they deserved their place in the final and to be in the CL next season.
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I reckon goalie send off was a tough decision.........55555
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Disagree  .....correct decision IMHO....about time bully boy Lehman got pulled up......advantage should have been played and Barca should have been 1-0 up.
Refs ruined the game......Barca's first goal looked offside.....game was riddled with ref's poor decisions.
Arsenal did play well and gave their all....but having one less on the pitch told on them in the end.
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Disagree  .....correct decision IMHO....about time bully boy Lehman got pulled up......advantage should have been played and Barca should have been 1-0 up.
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I agree with you Mav..........hence the laughter after the comment......
but it is tough to play more than half a game with 10 guys.........particularly if the goal would have been allowed...advantage should have been played tho'.........ref too quick with the whistle.......
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I agree with you Mav..........hence the laughter after the comment......
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Apologies N....didn't pick up on that.
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.advantage should have been played tho'.........ref too quick with the whistle.......
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AGREE 100%.......
THE REF WAS AWFUL...THAT SENDING OFF SPOILED THE GAME........
ITS JUST AS WELL HE SENT OFF THE KEEPER AND DISSALLOWED THE GOAL...COZ IF ARSENAL HAD TO GO CHASING A GOAL..BARCA WOULD HAVE OPENED THEM UP AND HIT THEM FOR 4 !!!!!!!
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Ref was worst man on the field. Correct decission was giving advantage to Barc and validate the goal. Then Lehman should get a yellow card. (and we would have seen a better game 11 against 11).
Goal from Arsenal: no foul of Puyol on Eboué.
Goal of Barça, not sure if Eto'o was offside, could not see on TV.
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THE REF WAS AWFUL...THAT SENDING OFF SPOILED THE GAME........
ITS JUST AS WELL HE SENT OFF THE KEEPER AND DISSALLOWED THE GOAL...COZ IF ARSENAL HAD TO GO CHASING A GOAL..BARCA WOULD HAVE OPENED THEM UP AND HIT THEM FOR 4 !!!!!!!
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Disagree.if he had wait to blow in the first situation
and approved the goal and have give the keeper the
yellow card Barca would be up with one goal.
Cant se Arsenal could get back on that one,They would have to press forward and you would get gaps
in their defence and it would suit Barca perfect.
Arsenal playd well with low press and two straight
defence lines when they was in the lead and could go for fast breaks when they had the ball.
It would be a diffrent game.
And barca first goal i have seen in slow motion many
times,maybe you talk about some centimetre offside.
But the ball was played fast one one touch ,and the
rules are so the attacking team shal have the doubt
on their side if its are a doubt .
Barca was just a better team 
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Exactly we have the television to se it many times and cannot se any offside.
How the hec shal the refree se one 
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Disagree.if he had wait to blow in the first situation
and approved the goal and have give the keeper the
yellow card Barca would be up with one goal.
Cant se Arsenal could get back on that one,They would have to press forward and you would get gaps
in their defence and it would suit Barca perfect.
Arsenal playd well with low press and two straight
defence lines when they was in the lead and could go for fast breaks when they had the ball.
It would be a diffrent game.
And barca first goal i have seen in slow motion many
times,maybe you talk about some centimetre offside.
But the ball was played fast one one touch ,and the
rules are so the attacking team shal have the doubt
on their side if its are a doubt .
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Sorry,its early in the morning
But no one talk about the cheap freekick the referee
give Arsenal where Emmanuel Eboue try too simulate a free kick and get one.If he had the yellow in that situation it would be the second one ! And what then.. Thierry Henry play the ball in to Sol Campbell and he heads the ball in goal.
Hmmm it goes both ways 
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advantage should have been played and Barca should have been 1-0 up.
Refs ruined the game......Barca's first goal looked offside.....game was riddled with ref's poor decisions.
Arsenal did play well and gave their all....but having one less on the pitch told on them in the end.
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Well, what if the ref. had given the advantage and Gioly had NOT scored? Then he only could have given Lehmann a yellow card. Red card no doubt. This was exactly by the book. If you don’t like it, try change the rules…
No offside. Other examples?
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Well, what if the ref. had given the advantage and Gioly had NOT scored? Then he only could have given Lehmann a yellow card. Red card no doubt. This was exactly by the book. If you don’t like it, try change the rules…
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Not by the book. I think a lot of refs commented about this fase on TV allready. He could have waited to whistle till Giully shot. It is done weekly. If Giully doesn't score, then go accord the foul.
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not much to add (been a powercut all day)
sending off was correct but the ref was abysmal. real shame coz it would have been a great game 11v11 but UEFA (barca fanboys) made sure it was 10v12.
555 I sound like whiney Henry after the match.
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Well, what if the ref. had given the advantage and Gioly had NOT scored? Then he only could have given Lehmann a yellow card. Red card no doubt. This was exactly by the book. If you don’t like it, try change the rules…
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The Ref was awful and totally ruined the whole game... He should have played the advantage like any good referee, And then looked at the outcome, If it was not of any advantage then he could blow the whistle and bring it back and then send Lehmann off, But he didnt and IMO should never have been allowed to ref the match in the first place or one again for that matter, How on earth can UEFA give a referee from Norway who is not even going to ref at the world cup the responsibility of refering the biggest game in European club football? It should have gone to the best referee in either Italy, France or Germany end of story, But it didnt because of politics...
Btw, A typical example of this was last seasons Semi-final 2nd leg at Anfield between Liverpool and Chelsea, Baras went through and Cech took him down but the ref let play go on and Garcia scored with the advantage... Cech didnt recieve any booking, Yellow or Red and the game went on... That is the right way to do it.. Because if he had of just blowin up, Then Cech would have been off and Chelsea down to 10, And Liverpool would of had a penalty but it would have ruined what turned out to be a great game of football, Its just a bit of common sence (Btw that was a ref from England who was used to a fast paced league unlike the official from Norway last night)
You have to remember all the fans that forked out a shit load of money to go and see a great match between two great sides, Only to be cheated by that stupid referee who hardly got a decision right all night, And apart from the freekick given to Eboye which was given by the linesman I might add, Every decision went against Arsenal, They were getting cards left, right and centre and Barcalona got away with murder, It does make you wonder aswell (And as you all know I am not an Arsenal fan) if there was something dodgy about this ref aswell after what happened with his Lineman wearing a Barca jersey before the final, Who is also from Norway
PS: And its a shame really as we will never know whether or not Barca would have beaten Arsenal 11v11 as it was looking like a very even game up until that point, It also taints there victory a little bit aswell which is a shame because they were great all season...
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not much to add (been a powercut all day)
sending off was correct but the ref was abysmal. real shame coz it would have been a great game 11v11 but UEFA (barca fanboys) made sure it was 10v12.
555 I sound like whiney Henry after the match.
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Yes you are
BTW the ref agree that he was to fast on that decision
what he says is:i must agree that i was little to early with blowing,but i was very focust on what happend and keeper take the man and i blow the whistle without taking the time for help to se where the ball went afther.
But he still did it by the book,but a good ref shall
use common sense and not be to inflexible and the atacking team shal have the benefit of the decision.
But would it have change the match 
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if there was something dodgy about this ref aswell after what happened with his Lineman wearing a Barca jersey before the final, Who is also from Norway
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Jeeze Ally what have this to do with the game.
Have you seen a game lately on this level where we dont have talk shit this.
What about the penalty Arsenal schould have against them in the semi and bla bla bla
And the refree? i dont know but i know he was
been a ref in the last WC and EC and have been a ref
in 10-15 CL matches.
He wouldent have the game if he wasent up for it.
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Jeeze Ally what have this to do with the game.
Have you seen a game lately on this level where we dont have talk shit this.
What about the penalty Arsenal schould have against them in the semi and bla bla bla
And the refree? i dont know but i know he was
been a ref in the last WC and EC and have been a ref
in 10-15 CL matches.
He wouldent have the game if he wasent up for it.
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What has it to do with the game?
Well after his performance last night, Questions need to be asked, Firstly why was his linemans photographed in a Barca jersey? This was not just your normal bad refering performance, Where you get a few decisions wrong, He was really bad all night, And gave nearly everything in Barca's favour...
Sorry Petter but he was not up to it, Last night showed that, He was absolutly diabolical, And should never be allowed to referee another one again, He was that bad...
PS: Can I ask you a question Petter, Would you be defending him as much if had not been from Norway...5555555.. 
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Not by the book. I think a lot of refs commented about this fase on TV allready. He could have waited to whistle till Giully shot. It is done weekly. If Giully doesn't score, then go accord the foul.
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Well, after seeing it again (and again) I do concede now that the decision was controversial. But the choice to “give advantage” is a judgment the referee himself has to make. When Lehmann, being the last defender, makes a foul it is a red card. Entirely by the book.
This is what Wenger had to say:
"It was a red card," he conceded, "but I wouldn't blame my goalkeeper for that. I heard the whistle blow for the foul before the ball hit the net, and the referee couldn't assume [Ludovic] Giuly would score, so I understand that decision."
And Lehmann:
"He could have given advantage to Barcelona but the referee had to make a very quick decision and it is difficult for refs to make the right decisions in that situation."
One thing that makes me sick is the constant “blaming the ref” manta. Mourinho being the prime example. This is what led one of the best refs in the world (Frisk) to retire after receiving death threats from disillusioned Chelsea fans. To even suggest that the ref. (Hauge) wasn’t up for it or was "bought" is just ridiculous. End-of-rant.
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Hehe Ally
You now what i have the answer to that
Mr linesman had a visit from a local newspaper who had the shirt with them.The moron was so stupid that he allowd the local newsper take the picture
of him in the Barca suit.
His biggest mistake when you now the English tabloid papers,and he did pay for that.
No its not because he is Norwegian,but these refs dont go so many games back home.
They mainly work international with international games year around.
And Fifa following them up.
He has been ref in som pools games to. 
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One thing that makes me sick is the constant “blaming the ref” manta. Mourinho being the prime example. This is what led one of the best refs in the world (Frisk) to retire after receiving death threats from disillusioned Chelsea fans. To even suggest that the ref. (Hauge) wasn’t up for it or was "bought" is just ridiculous. End-of-rant.
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Hang on though, Somebody has to stand up and say something or the referees would get away with murder, Although I dont agree with Moureen most of the time, Some of the time he is right...
So you think his performance last night was acceptable for a professional referee? You think that a good referee would can get so many decisions wrong in one match? And that what you call being up for it?
Im sorry but if you think yes to any of the above, Then IMO your being ridiculous..
Lastly I never said the Referee was bought, Although its not beyond the realms of possibility, Its not like it has not happened before, Anyone with a bit of common sence and knowledge just needs to look at the whats going on in Italy at the moment, And the match fixing scandal involving Juventus for the past few years, Referee's in Juventus officials pockets so you just never know... But one thing is for sure if nobody asks the question, Or queries the referee's performances, Then they become a law onto themselves and will become more open to corruption IMO...
PS: If that Picture of the referee's linemans had not have been printed in the Newspaper until after the final, Would you have still said it was ridiculous that an official could be "Bought"
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Hehe Ally
You now what i have the answer to that
Mr linesman had a visit from a local newspaper who had the shirt with them.The moron was so stupid that he allowd the local newsper take the picture
of him in the Barca suit.
His biggest mistake when you now the English tabloid papers,and he did pay for that.
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